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That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they"re based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun! Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have

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135:44

Loss w/ Stephanie March

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/05/31

Liza and Kara dissect the classic SVU episode, “Loss” (Season 5, Episode 4), cover the crimes of Pablo Escobar and the Medellin cartel, and have an ex parte discussion with Alex Cabot herself, the wonderful Stephanie March. SOURCES: Wikipedia - 1 Wikipedia - 2 Propublica NY Times - 1 NY Times - 2 NBC News Biography All That’s Interesting Vanity Fair - 1 Vanity Fair - 2 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Washington Office on Latin America - wola.org Next week’s episode will be “Stolen” (Season 3,

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158:31

The Burden of Our Choices w/ Jamie Gray Hyder & Jodi...

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/05/24

In this very timely episode, Kara and Liza go over SVU’s “The Burden of Our Choices” (Season 21, Episode 4), discuss the fate of Roe v. Wade with the president of Planned Parenthood’s CA chapter, Jodi Hicks, and interview detective Kat Tamin, Jamie Gray Hyder. SOURCES: Britannica Wikipedia History WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Planned Parenthood CA - SayAbortionCalifornia.com Next week’s episode will be “Loss” (Season 5, Episode 4). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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125:48

Military Justices w/ Laura Benanti

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/05/17

Today Liza and Kara get into the SVU episode, “Military Justice” (Season 15, Episode 8), break down systemic rape coverups in the military (specifically the case of Rebecca Blumer), and chat with Broadway and TV icon, Laura Benanti. SOURCES: Rolling Stone WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Protect Our Defenders - https://www.protectourdefenders.com/ Next week’s episode will be “The Burden of Our Choices” (Season 21, Episode 4). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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139:35

Making a Rapist w/ Delaney Williams

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/05/10

This week, Kara and Liza dive into SVU’s “Making a Rapist” (Season 18, Episode 2), discuss the controversial case of Steven Avery, and sit down with SVU’s contentious defense attorney (but IRL sweetheart), Delaney Williams. SOURCES: Wikipedia - 1 Wikipedia - 2 NY Times KathleenTZellner.com Heavy Lacrosse Tribune ABC News Milwaukee Mag Post Crescent - 1 Post Crescent - 2 Innocence Project WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Center on Wrongful Convictions of Youth -

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130:50

Forty-One Witnesses w/ J. Mallory McCree

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/05/03

On today’s episode, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode, “Forty-One Witnesses” (Season 17, Episode 13), cover the murder of Kitty Genovese, and have a conversation with the charming, J. Mallory McCree. SOURCES: NY Times - 1 NY Times - 2 NY Times - 3 Wikipedia “The Wintess” (documentary) Psychology Today WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Witness (2015) - Link to watch Next week’s episode will be “Making a Rapist” (Season 18, Episode 2). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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124:15

Intoxicated w/ Cathy Moriarty

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/04/26

For this week, Kara and Liza go over SVU’s “Intoxicated” (Season 6, Episode 19), examine the murders of Vicki Robinson and Barbara Mullinex, and interview legendary actor, Cathy Moriarty. SOURCES: Tampa Bay Times - 1 Tampa Bay Times - 2 Tampa Bay Times - 3 Tampa Bay Times - 4 Tampa Bay Times - 5 Tampa Bay Times - 6 CBS News Oxygen OC Register My Crime Library Forensic Files Now News Channel 8 (NBC) WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ChildHelp - https://www.childhelp.org/ Next week’s episode will be “41

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109:19

Send in the Clowns w/ Will Sasso

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/04/19

Today, Liza and Kara get into the SVU episode, “Send in the Clowns” (Season 19, Episode 17), break down the kidnapping of Elizabeth Thomas, and chat with the very funny Will Sasso. SOURCES: People - 1 People - 2 People - 3 Teen Vogue - 1 Teen Vogue - 2 Teen Vogue - 3 ABC News WKRN.com Columbia Daily Herald NY Post WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Sexual Violence Prevention Association (SVPA) - https://www.globalgiving.org/fundraisers/saam-svpa/ Next week’s episode will be “Intoxicated” (Season 6,

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137:50

Decline and Fall w/ Robert Brooks Cohen

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/04/19

This week, Kara and Liza dive into SVU’s “Decline and Fall” (Season 18, Episode 9), discuss the Succession-esque life and times of Viacom chairman, Sumner Redstone, and sit down with the episode’s brilliant writer, Robert Brooks Cohen. SOURCES: Vanity Fair - 1 Vanity Fair - 2 LA Times Wikipedia USA Today Today Us Weekly - 1 Us Weekly - 2 Deadline CBS Los Angeles NY Times Hollywood Reporter WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Child Mind Institute Consent Guide -

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105:35

Friending Emily w/ Lindsay Pulsipher

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/04/12

On this week’s episode, Liza and Kara talk SVU’s “Friending Emily” (Season 14, Episode 6), break down the crimes of Corey Gallisdorfer, the kidnapping of Jessyca Mullenburg, and chat with actor Lindsay Pulsipher. SOURCES: FBI WRAL ABC News AP News Unsolved Mysteries Wiki Del Mar Times WXII 12 Next Generation Communications WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: FBI’s Top 10 Most Wanted - https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten Next week’s episode will be “Decline and Fall” (Season 18, Episode 9). Learn

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155:49

Sick w/ Jill Marie Lawrence

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/04/05

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode “Sick” (Season 5, Episode 19), dive into the Michael Jackson allegations, and have a conversation with the wonderful Jillmarie Lawrence. SOURCES: NPR YouTube Wikipedia - 1 Wikipedia - 2 Wikipedia - 3 MTV News Vanity Fair NY Times - 1 NY Times - 2 NY Times - 3 Daily Beast Mirror UK WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Leaving Neverland - HBO Max Link Next week’s episode will be “Friending Emily” (Season 14, Episode 6). Learn more about your ad choices

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139:54

Remember Me In Quarantine w/ Jordan Lane Price

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/03/29

For this week, Liza and Kara go over SVU’s “Remember Me In Quarantine” (Season 22, Episode 3), examine the murder of Meredith Kercher (and case of Amanda Knox), and interview the very fun Jordan Lane Price. SOURCES: Netflix Documentary, Amanda Knox Vanity Fair BBC Wikipedia The Guardian Twitter WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Netflix's documentary, Amanda Knox. Next week’s episode will be “Sick” (Season 5, Episode 19). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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129:46

Control w/ Samantha Mathis

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/03/22

On today’s episode, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode, “Control” (Season 5, Episode 9), cover the crimes of John Jamelske, and sit down with iconic actor, Samantha Mathis. SOURCES: CNY Central NY Times - 1 NY Times - 2 NY Times - 3 NY Times - 4 NY Daily News WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: National Sexual Violence Resource Center - https://www.nsvrc.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Remember Me In Quarantine” (Season 22, Episode 3). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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131:29

Perfect w/ Kimberly J. Brown

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/03/15

This week, Liza and Kara recap SVU’s “Perfect” (Season 4, Episode 24), break down the abduction of Elizabeth Smart, the origin of the Raelian cult (and more!), and have a chat with the darling Kimberly J. Brown. SOURCES: Wikipedia - 1 Wikipedia - 2 Wikipedia - 3 Wikipedia - 4 Religion Unplugged NY Times Biography ABC News CNN - 1 CNN - 2 NBC News WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: “My Story” by Elizabeth Smart - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17287028-my-story Next week’s episode will be “Control”

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126:23

Chasing Demons w/ Brett Gray

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/03/08

On today’s episode, Liza and Kara go over SVU’s “Chasing Demons” (Season 19, Episode 14), get into the crimes of Earl Bradley, and have a conversation with the delightful Brett Gray. SOURCES: SFSPA Penn State Delaware Online - 1 Delaware Online - 2 Delaware Online - 3 Delaware Online - 4 Delaware Online - 5 Delmarva Public Media ABC News Cape Gazette Wikipedia People Pill USA Today The Daily Beast WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Consent Parenting - https://www.instagram.com/consentparenting/ Next

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111:42

Bedtime w/ Jaclyn Smith

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/03/01

This week, Kara and Liza talk about SVU’s “Bedtime” (Season 11, Episode 18), take a look at the case of “The Bedroom Basher”, and talk to the one and only, Jaclyn Smith. SOURCES: LA Times - 1 LA Times - 2 LA Times - 3 Orange County Sheriff’s Department Murderpedia WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Advancing Real Change - https://www.advancechange.org/who-we-are.html Next week’s episode will be “Chasing Demons” (Season 19, Episode 14). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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143:07

Scourge w/ Liza Lapira

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/02/22

In today’s episode, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “Scourge” (Season 2, Episode 21), discuss the murders of serial killer, Herbert Mullin, and chat with the charming Liza Lapira. SOURCES: Crime Library Wikipedia Serial Killers Documentaries (YouTube) Serial Killer Minds (YouTube) Real Crime (YouTube) CBS SF Bay Area WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: National Institute of Mental Health - https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/schizophrenia/raise/raise-resources-for-patients-and-families Next

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136:18

Streetwise w/ Helen Shaver

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/02/15

Today, Liza and Kara get into the SVU episode, “Streetwise” (Season 9, Episode 11), tackle the Manson Family murders, and sit down with esteemed actor and director, Helen Shaver. SOURCES: Washington Post - 1 Washington Post - 2 Vox Britannica NY Times Wikipedia - 1 Wikipedia - 2 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: All God’s Children By Rene Denfeld - https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/98057 Next week’s episode will be “Scourge” (Season 2, Episode 21). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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130:25

Justice w/ Daniel Sunjata

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/02/08

On this week’s episode, Kara and Liza talk SVU’s “Justice” (Season 3, Episode 19), unpack the assassination of Judge John H. Wood, and chat with Burt Trevor himself, the lovely Daniel Sunjata. SOURCES: My San Antonio - 1 My San Antonio - 2 KENS 5 Washington Post - 1 Washington Post - 2 NY Times - 1 NY Times - 2 NY Times - 3 NY Times - 4 News 4 San Antonio The Guardian UNILAD Oxygen ABC News El Paso Times Wikipedia WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: AACAP - Trauma and Child Abuse Resource Center

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162:14

Tragedy w/ Kellie Martin

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/02/01

This week, Liza and Kara dive into SVU’s “Tragedy” (Season 5, Episode 1), discuss the murder of Laci Peterson, and sit down with legendary actor, Kellie Martin. SOURCES: The Murder of Laci Peterson NY Times - 1 NY Times - 2 CNN Rolling Stone Alta ABC News Modesto Bee WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: A Deadly Game: The Untold Story of the Scott Peterson Investigation - https://www.goodreads.com/book/690429/get_a_copy Next week’s episode will be “Justice” (Season 3, Episode 19). Learn more

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121:14

Producer's Backend w/ Stevie Lynn Jones

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/01/25

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode, “Producer’s Backend” (Season 16, Episode 3), the controversies around Bryan Singer and Dan Schneider, and chat with the lovely Stevie Lynn Jones. SOURCES: The Atlantic Wikipedia Rolling Stone Hollywood Reporter Variety - 1 Variety - 2 LA Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Trevor Project - https://www.thetrevorproject.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Tragedy” (Season 5, Episode 1). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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