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Fallthrough Media

A deep and nuanced conversational podcast focused on technology, software, and computing.

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90:12

The Failure of Open Source Leadership

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2025/10/07

Open source project leaders have faced heavy challenges over the last decade and a half. It seems every language community has had conflicts with its leadership: Python with the struggles of the Python 2 to 3 migration; Node.JS and the community's conflict with Joyent; Rust and their handling of trademarks and IP; Wordpress and their conflict with WPEngine; and of course Go and their conflict around dependency management (and error handling). Now we've added another: the recent conflict

74:36

PHP Was Never Dead

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2025/09/30

This week we've got a grab bag episode! Kris and Matt discuss a variety of topics, including a GopherCon debrief (featuring some RustConf comparisons!), why people can't be mad all the time, the need for better abstractions, and so much more!We continue this discussion in this week's episode of Break! We get into some of the topics briefly mentioned during the main episode. Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show.For our

78:09

Defer Life Considered Harmful

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2025/09/23

From AI winters to Tiny Go, Ron Evans has a long and storied career. In this episode he joins Angelica and Matt to discuss his journey, what past AI winters can tell us about our current AI moment, the importance of Tiny Go, and so much more.This week's episode has a Break aftershow! Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show.For our supporters, we've got two great chapters about epistemology and how AI affects newcomers to

96:21

Building For The Future

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2025/09/15

We've all experienced the dreaded rewrite. A system that was promised to last for years has grown so full of technical debt and cruft that we feel we need to throw it out and start over again. How can we avoid this? In this episode, Angelica and Matt are joined by Jon Sabados, where they discuss how to build software that can last long into the future.This week's episode does not have a companion break episode, but check out our backlog if you haven't watched them already! Watch it on

117:18

Bootstrapping A Podcast

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2025/09/08

Ever wondered what it really takes to build a successful online presence? How about if you were doing it as a couple? In this episode, Angelica and Matt are joined by Sophie and Rory of the "Media Couple" podcast as they pull back the curtain on their current projects and share the unfiltered reality of being content creators, the tools and tech they use, and how it's going.This week's episode does not have a companion break episode, but check out our backlog if you haven't watched them

97:33

What It Takes To Be A Content Creator

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2025/09/01

Everyone can be a content creator. Whether it's posting long form content on YouTube, shorter content on TikTok, or photos on Instagram, content creation is accessible to all. In this episode, Angelica and Matt are joined by Benjamin Bryant to talk about what it takes to become a content creator. This episode contains extra chapters for supporters.This week's episode does not have a companion break episode, but check out our backlog if you haven't watched them already! Watch it on YouTube

52:07

How To Have A Great Conference Experience

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2025/08/25

GopherCon is this week! Kris, Matt, Dylan, and Angelica are talking about conferences: their favorite experiences, how they approach them, and advice for first time conference attendees. For our supporters, the panel has an in-depth discussion of what would make for better conferences and where current conferences are failing.We've also have a new episode of Break! Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show.Not a supporter yet

70:30

What's New in Go 1.25?

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2025/08/18

It's August, which means we've got a fresh new Go release! In this episode, Kris and Matt pick up the "What's New in Go?" series with an edition for the Go 1.25 release. We've also have a new episode of Break! Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show.This episode contains an extra Unpopular Opinion and lengthy discussion for our supporters. Not a supporter yet? You can fix that by heading over to

78:29

Big Data Energy

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2025/08/11

In the years leading up to the current AI hype cycle we're currently all experiencing, there was another hype cycle: Big Data. In this episode, Kris is joined by Matt and Steve to discuss how the Big Data craze relates to the current Artificial Intelligence one, where Big Data ends and AI/ML begin, and so much more.We've also have a new episode of Break! We've decided that Break will be video first, so you can watch it on YouTube or in your favorite podcast app by going to:

72:37

Championing A Cause

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2025/08/04

How do you make change happen effectively? In this episode, Matt is joined by Alex Sims to discuss championing a cause and making change happen within your organization. They discuss various strategies, including how to get started, different technical approaches, and how to deal with those who resist change.We've also have a new episode of Break! We've decided that Break will be video first, so you can watch it on YouTube or in your favorite podcast app by going to:

80:39

AI Booster? AI Doomer? You're Wrong Either Way

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2025/07/28

It's a rarity in recent years to have a conversation and not have the topic of AI brought up. There are those who think we're on the cusp of AI super-intelligence, those who think AI will destroy the job market, and those who completely write the entire thing off. What these conversations lack is nuance. In this episode, Kris is joined by Matt and Steve to bring some much needed nuance to the conversation around artificial intelligence. They discuss the history of AI; how everything old is

101:44

Versioning: We Did It To Ourselves

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2025/07/21

Versioning! It's a topic that we all deal with on a daily basis, and yet it's a topic that many of us dread. Our ecosystems love semantic versioning, but many of us find it lacking for many of our use cases. In this episode, Kris and Matt are joined once again by Jamie and Steve to talk about versioning. The panel discusses what versioning is, when to use Semantic Versioning, whether identifiers and versions are the same thing, and so much more.Last week we shipped the first episode of our

39:57

[Break] You're Now Less Wrong About REST

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2025/07/15

Welcome to Break, a Fallthrough aftershow! After months of spending time after each recording of Fallthrough chatting, Kris and Matt decided it's time to record some of these chats and publish them to the world! In many ways the show's name is apropos: it's more like a watercooler break than a podcast recording and it's a break from the way we usually record podcast episodes.In this first episode, Kris, Matt, and Jamie discuss the recording of Fallthrough episode #28. They talk more about

108:32

Why You're Wrong About REST

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2025/07/14

The web has been around for nearly 40 years, yet despite its massive success, the principles that made it a success still prove elusive to most software engineers today. We've stumbled into a world where so called REST APIs are less RESTful than GraphQL, where most definitions of hypermedia are wrong, and where nuance has been replaced with "well actually". In this episode, Kris is joined by Matt, Jamie, and Steve to discuss REST, hypermedia, the Web (now at version 4.0!), where all of

68:25

Language and Codes of Misconduct

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2025/07/07

In episode 27, the panel discussed what languages are, what it means to know things, and what meaning is. In this bonus episode, we extend that conversation to discuss how language affects the tech and software communities. We delve into things like whether Codes of Conduct are actually a good thing, how efforts to make language more inclusive can be harmful, and much more.This content would usually be included as supporter only content, but we decided to release it to everyone! If you

70:30

What Even Is A [Programming|Natural] Language?

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2025/07/07

Whether you're talking to another person, talking to a computer, or just talking to yourself, we use languages every day. For a long time now, there's been a debate about whether natural languages and programming languages are distinct from each other. The creation of large language models and their ability to produce code from natural language has blurred these lines even further. In this episode, Kris is joined by Angelica, Matt, and guest co-host Steve Klabnik, to discuss language, what

67:43

SIMD & Go

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2025/06/30

Speed and software should go hand in hand, but with Moore's Law coming to an end and CPU clock speeds remaining steady over the last 20 years, software engineers need to turn to new techniques to improve the efficiency of their code. In this episode, Matt and Angelica and joined by Clement Jean to discuss one of these techniques: SIMD. They'll discuss what SIMD is, how it can be used from languages like Go, the various proposals to get better support for SIMD directly into Go and its

75:27

The Three Ps: Understanding Product, Project, and...

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2025/06/23

Building software is difficult and rarely can software engineers do it alone. In this episode, Kris is joined by Ian, Matthew, and Angelica to talk managing software projects and what three often used but rarely defined roles actually mean: project manager, product manager, and program manager. The panel also discusses how these roles interact with engineering managers, what they think these roles actually do, and whether product managers should actually exist.For our supporters, this

69:32

Go's Error Handling Is Handled

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2025/06/16

Error handling in Go is one of the language's most controversial topics. It ranks high in each Go Developer Survey and many different people have proposed many different solutions to the perceived problems. The Go Team's stance on error handling as a problem in need of a fix has changed recently, with a declaration that no proposals will be accepted for changes to Go's error handling syntax. In this episode, Kris is joined by Ian and Matt to discuss this news. They talk about whether error

78:26

A Discourse On AI Discourse

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2025/06/09

AI is a divisive topic. Some people are AI boosters while others are AI doomers. And then there are those of us who sit in the middle, feeling both sides are not just wrong but that they aren't experiencing a shared reality with the rest of us. In this episode, Kris and Matt are joined by Steve Klabnik to talk about the state of AI and the discourse around it.For our supporters, this episode contains extra chapters of discussion. Get access by signing up at

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