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The ITPro Podcast

The ITPro Podcast is a weekly show for technology professionals and business leaders. Each week hosts Rory Bathgate and Jane McCallion are joined by an expert guest to take a deep dive into the most important issues for the IT community. New episodes premiere every Friday. Visit itpro.com/uk/the-it-pro-podcast for more information, or follow ITPro on LinkedIn for regular updates.

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29:39

SPECIAL EDITION: The evolution from robots to agents

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/07/04

If you’re looking to adopt AI right now, you’ll likely have heard the term ‘AI agents’. These systems can complete complex tasks autonomously, without user input.But no doubt some of the audience will be thinking: “haven’t we heard this before?” Indeed, robotic process automation and software robots have been available since the turn of the century, completing multi-step, repetitive tasks for businesses without human oversight.How have we evolved from robots to agents? And how can both be used by

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20:37

June rundown: 2,000 missing devices and why threat...

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/06/27

June has been another busy month for IT and technology news. Whether it’s new naming conventions for cybercriminal groups, Britain’s big tech potential, and national security concerns over lost government devices, we’ve got a lot to unpick.ITPro’s news editor Ross Kelly and reviews editor Bobby Hellard step in for Jane and Rory this week to chew that fat on some of the biggest IT news stories of June.

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16:53

Are reasoning models fundamentally flawed?

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/06/20

AI reasoning models have emerged in the past year as a beacon of hope for large language models (LLMs), with AI developers such as OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic selling them as the go-to solution for solving the most complex business problems.However, a new research paper by Apple has cast significant doubts on the efficacy of reasoning models, going as far as to suggest that when a problem is too complex, they simply give up. What's going on here? And does it mean reasoning models are fundamentally

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16:55

SPECIAL EDITION: Data integration for open table formats

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/06/18

Any modern enterprise generates reams of data, which can be difficult to correctly store, process, and use without the right approach.This has become even more important in the face of AI. Before any leader can begin implementing AI across their workflow, they must first ensure they’ve prepared data at the right scale – and across its entire lifecycle.Data integration, in which data from across a business is combined into a single stream, can be a huge help here. But where do you start with this

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31:25

RSAC Conference 2025: The front line of cyber innovation

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/06/13

In the fast-changing world of cybersecurity, IT leaders have to keep up with evolving threats and new technologies to stay ahead of attackers.With nation states lending a hand to threat groups with more pointed aims than ever before, alongside the double-edged sword of greater AI adoption in cybersecurity, there’s never been a more worrying – and exciting – time to specialize in the field.This episode was recorded live at RSAC conference in San Francisco by Scott Becker, director of Webinar programs

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35:02

Where is the cloud headed?

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/06/06

We’re past the peak cloud hype of the 2010s and now well into the era of cloud maturity. But even as businesses have come to terms with multi-cloud and hybrid cloud models, new considerations have arisen, such as the growing push for cloud sovereignty and regional data center demand.AI has put additional pressure on firms to figure out exactly what they’re running in the cloud – as agentic AI drives organizations to consider ‘always on’ workloads and whether this is feasible in a public cloud

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24:27

Java celebrates its 30th birthday and more Microsoft...

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2025/05/30

May has been a busy month for news in the IT world, with cyber attacks hitting retailers across the UK and Microsoft laying off over 800 developers.In this episode of the ITPro Podcast, Jane is joined by news and analysis editor Ross Kelly to discuss three of the most significant news stories of the past month and wish Java a happy 30th birthday.Highlights“A significant portion of [the redundancies] are in Washington state, in the US, the heartland of Microsoft headquarters. It comes at quite an

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26:47

Dell Technologies World 2025: All in on AI

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/05/23

Dell Technologies World has just come to a close in Las Vegas and there is no doubt that the company is – in its own words “all in on AI”. From laptops to services, data center infrastructure and partnerships, everything is being led by AI.What this means in practice for IT decision makers and business leaders can sometimes be hard to divine, however. This week, Jane sits down with John Roese, chief technology officer and chief AI officer at Dell Technologies, to dig into the practical effects of

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33:11

Classic episode: What’s the future of data storage?

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/05/16

This episode was first broadcast on 22 March 2024.As technological innovations happen, it can be easy to forget that even the most complex systems rely on large networks of basic infrastructure to operate. At the most fundamental level, all tech products rely on effective data storageBut this is easier said than done. Each byte of data has to be stored somewhere, on a rack, disk, tape, or flash device. As the world embraces hardware and software that creates data at an even faster rate, businesses

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24:12

SAS Innovate 2025: Pursuing pragmatic AI

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/05/09

What do you do when you want to get your enterprise data into a usable format? And how can you make better use of the data you already use, through the likes of analytics, AI, and even quantum computing?All these questions and more have been front and center at SAS Innovate 2025, the data and analytics veteran’s annual conference held in Orlando, Florida.As the week has pressed on, what have we learned about SAS’ view of its place in the rapidly changing world of business technology? And what sets

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23:29

RSAC Conference 2025: AI and quantum complicate security

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/05/02

RSAC Conference 2025 has been full on, with cybersecurity experts from all over the world descending on San Francisco to share trends, data, and announcements.This year, ITPro has been providing both remote and on the ground coverage from the event, across talks covering topics such as AI security and threat actor methodology.In this episode, Jane speaks to Rory about some of his RSAC coverage and key takeaways from the event.Read more:RSAC Conference 2025 was a sobering reminder of the challenges

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14:10

April rundown: MITRE frights and Microsoft launches...

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/04/25

April has been a busy month for tech news – we recorded this episode with a week left in the month, but there’s already so much to discuss.A major upset in the international database for tracking vulnerabilities had some in the cybersecurity field stunned – until a last minute U-turn.Elsewhere, AWS is the latest hyperscaler to roll back on data center plans, but what does this mean for the market?In this episode Jane and Rory speak once again to Ross Kelly, ITPro’s news and analysis editor, to

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21:17

Putting small language models under the microscope

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/04/18

We’ve spent the past few years discussing large language models, the huge AI models that power a lot of the generative AI tools that have dominated the headlines.But small language models are also possible – and rapidly growing in popularity. What benefits do these tiny AI models offer, and how much use will they get in the coming months and years, and how do they differ from other lightweight, ‘low latency’ models?In this episode, Jane and Rory take a look at some of the smallest AI models on the

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30:30

Google Cloud Next 2025: Targeting easy AI

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/04/11

Las Vegas has been taken over by Google Cloud this week, with Google Cloud Next 2025 in full flow. There have already been a number of headline grabbing announcements: we've seen the launch of a powerful new AI accelerator chip by the name of Ironwood, huge updates to Google Cloud's security capabilities, and new agentic AI development kits for enterprises. But there's been much, much more on top.In this episode, Ross Kelly, news and analysis editor at ITPro, speaks to Rory about Google Cloud's

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27:27

Is the IT service desk dying out?

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/04/04

When something goes wrong with IT at work, chances are you’ll be asked to submit a service ticket. This is a tale as old as time – see a problem, submit a ticket, wait for the service desk to come to your help.But all this could be set for change. Advances in technology have opened the door to software problems being detected and remediated automatically, while internal learning platforms could also provide employees with the information they need to fix issues themselves.How will all this come

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22:31

SPECIAL EDITION: Harnessing unstructured data to fuel AI

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/03/31

The rule that your AI is only as good as your data is now well understood, with businesses all over the world looking to modernize their data sources and infrastructure to make the most of AI products and services.But something that can be easily lost in these discussions is consideration of the exact format your data exists in at rest. Unstructured data is especially important for AI and knowing where it fits into your AI strategy is essential. This doesn’t just mean knowing where it resides and

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21:00

March rundown: Four-day weeks and Nadella's AGI...

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/03/28

March is very nearly at an end and it’s been quite a month for diverging views in the industry.Satya Nadella, CEO at Microsoft, has spoken out against the tech sector’s apparent fixation on achieving AGI while comparing the potential for AI to the rise of Excel spreadsheets in business. The Microsoft chief has turned his attention to the material benefits of AI, as we enter a crunch year for AI developers.Elsewhere this month, UK tech firms are being offered support with adopting a four-day week,

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33:58

How effective are AI agents?

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/03/21

Computer systems that can autonomously work on menial tasks have been the promise of technologists – and science fiction authors – for decades. While we’ve dabbled with the likes of robotic process automation and machine learning in the past, the arrival of advanced AI software has put these lofty ambitions back on the table.According to AI developers, new tools known as AI agents will free up workers as never before, with the ability to autonomously complete tasks based on pre-approved instructions

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28:24

Are most AI projects destined to fail?

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/03/14

How much has your company invested in AI? Are you finding it a revolutionary technology, or still waiting for the promised gains to materialize?As businesses seek to unlock productivity gains from AI, investment in the technology has continued to rise. All across the world, firms are buying AI products, undergoing digital transformation in preparation, or even fine-tuning AI to suit their bespoke use cases.But how much of this is going to pay off? And what do you do if your AI project fails on its

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33:19

Creating space for women in tech

The ITPro Podcast ·

2025/03/07

International Women’s Day is here, a time for all those who care about women’s equality to celebrate the achievements of women both contemporary and historical and to focus on gender equality in our society.The tech sector still has a sizable gender divide, with only around one quarter of all tech roles held by women. Tech leaders need to enter into open dialogue over how to make tech careers more attractive to women and to empower women within their workforce.In this episode, Rory speaks to

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