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Drilled

Pushkin Industries

Drilled is a true-crime climate change podcast exposing how corporate corruption and political operatives built decades of climate denial and delay. Hosted and reported by award-winning investigative climate journalists and led by Amy Westervelt, each season unravels new evidence of deception, disinformation, and the power structures keeping real climate solutions out of reach. Season 15 coming April 2026.

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50:19

The Black Thread, Ep 3: Challenging the Narratives

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2025/10/27

In the third episode of The Black Thread, we explore where the facts do and don’t match up to the stories being told by Norway’s fossil fuel industry, amplified by it’s government, and legitimised through a wealth of public outreach. We hear experts challenge some of the most familiar narratives that keep Norwegian oil and gas pumping, while industry voices will explain the logic behind their rhetoric. For more information and references:

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52:00

Drilling Deep: Karen House on How Saudi Arabia Has...

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2025/10/25

Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter and former Wall Street Journal publisher Karen Elliott House, author of the new book The Man Who Would Be King: Mohammed bin Salman and the Transformation of Saudi Arabia, talks to Adam Lowenstein about how Saudi Arabia has changed under the crown prince; whether MBS’s gamble on economic and social freedoms alongside civil and political repression is politically—or environmentally—sustainable; how Saudi Arabia’s oil and petrochemical industries serve its geopolitical

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35:35

Carbon Bros: Abdul El-Sayed on Climate Complexities...

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2025/10/24

We heard a little bit from El-Sayed in the final episode of our Carbon Bros miniseries, and today we're bringing you the full conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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48:09

The Black Thread, Ep 2 | Petroganda

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2025/10/22

In the second episode of The Black Thread, we drill into “petroganda” – the pervasive phenomenon of oil industry manipulation that a growing number of experts and commentators suggest is at work in Norway – shaping support for the country’s oil industry, influencing culture and politics, and guiding the information that the public receives, or doesn’t receive, about the relationship between oil and climate change. We’ll explore these claims, hearing from those who study and observe the industry, as

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69:24

S14, Ep7 | How the Animal Ag Industry Obstructs...

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2025/10/21

For decades, the meat and dairy industries managed to successfully avoid any attention for the planet-heating emissions they pump into the atmosphere; once governments started talking about regulating methane, though, they started working on efforts to avoid them. In today's episode, Silvia Secchi (University of Iowa) and Kathrin Lauber (University of Edinburgh) join us to walk through "agricultural exceptionalism" and the strategies the animal ag industry uses to keep regulation and climate policy

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43:27

S14, Ep 6 | How the Coal, Utilities and...

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2025/10/14

The coal, utilities, and transportation industries have all mounted efforts to stop governments from regulating emissions or transitioning to cleaner energy. In this episode we look at how those efforts took shape around the world, and what tactics they used to block progress. Jen Schneider, at Boise State University and Gregory Trencher, at Kyoto University, join us to walk through the peer-reviewed research on these efforts. You can now download a FREE copy of the book Climate Obstruction: A

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42:09

The Black Thread, Ep 1 | Meet the Norwegians

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2025/10/13

In this first episode of The Black Thread, we meet the Norwegians and explore how social norms and cultural values shape their identity as a good, caring, and nature-loving people. We also learn what happens when those values come into conflict with the reality of Norway’s outsized impact on climate change, and discover how and why oil influences peoples’ response to this dilemma. For more information and references: https://communicatingclimatechange.com/the-black-thread Learn more about your ad

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65:32

What Should You Do With Climate Despair? A...

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2025/10/12

There’s no avoiding it: Things feel pretty bleak. To witness venture-capital-fueled AI domination, democracy’s steady drift toward authoritarianism, state-sanctioned genocide, and, of course, the collapse of one climate boundary after another, is to encounter a profound, at times overwhelming, sense of despair. But what if the path forward lies in accepting, rather than resisting, this despair? In his new book, Learning to Live in the Dark: Essays in a Time of Catastrophe, climate activist and

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50:23

S14, Ep5 | How the Fossil Fuel Industry Sabotages...

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2025/10/07

Climate obstruction isn’t just something the fossil fuel industry does, but they’ve certainly spearheaded and masterminded a lot of efforts. In this ep, an academic (Kristoffer Ekberg, from the University of Lund in Sweden), a nonprofit researcher (the legendary Kert Davies, of the Center for Climate Integrity), and a journalist (Geoff Dembicki, global managing editor of DeSmog) walk us through what we know so far about those efforts.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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58:33

The Media As a Tool of Climate Obstruction

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2025/10/03

Obstruction would never have been as effective as it has been without the help of the PR industry and the willful ignorance of the media. Today, Melissa Aronczyk, of Rutgers University, and Max Boykoff, of the University of Colorado, join us to walk through why getting a handle on the media's role in climate obstruction is critical to solving the problem. The book Climate Obstruction: A Global Survey, is available from Oxford University Press here, and will be available for free download

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62:17

The Psychology of Misinformation: Why Does It Work So...

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2025/09/30

If you want to understand how misinformation works in general…and anyone who cares about democracy should right now…there’s no one better to talk to than researchers who have been studying climate misinformation for years. In today's episode, John Cook (University of Melbourne) and Dominik A. Stecuła (Colorado State University) join to walk us through everything the research is telling us so far. Reminder that you can get a copy of the book Climate Obstruction: A Global Survey here (and download

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78:32

Welcome to the Rapture! How Rightwing Populism and...

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2025/09/23

Jesse Bryant (Yale) and Dieter Plehwe (University of Kassel) join us for a look at the intersection between the rise of rightwing populism and increasing resistance to acting on climate, with a particular focus on rising authoritarianism in the U.S., UK, and Europe.For more on this topic, check out the book Climate Obstruction: A Global Assessment (also downloadable free after Oct 14th!): https://global.oup.com/academic/product/climate-obstruction-9780197787151?cc=us&lang=en& Learn more about

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67:46

Welcome to the World of Obstruction

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2025/09/16

For at least a decade now, there’s been growing agreement around the fact that what’s stopping the world from addressing the climate crisis is not a lack of data or scientific certainty, or a lack of technological or policy measures available to address it. The problem is a lack of political will. And that didn't just happen; political will has been intentionally obstructed at every turn. As we gear up for the 30th UN climate summit, a new book pulls together everything we know about how this

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56:00

Drilling Deep: The Golden Age of Oil-Funded...

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2025/09/12

Thanks to reporter Adam Lowenstein, we'll be bringing you lots more interviews with smart authors writing about climate, policy, democracy, and power. This week, Adam talks to Casey Michel, author of Foreign Agents: How American Lobbyists and Lawmakers Threaten Democracy Around the World.Michel also recently wrote a fascinating piece in The Atlantic, applying what he learned in researching and writing the book to what he's seeing during the second Trump administration. Learn more about your ad

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34:15

The "Carbon Dominance" Strategy Driving Trump's...

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2025/09/08

Killing an offshore wind farm that's nearly complete makes no sense, even for a climate denier who thinks windmills kill whales. In this episode, political economist Mark Blyth walks Drilled reporter Royce Kurmelovs through the strategy behind it all, what he calls "carbon dominance." You can read a story about the impacts on our site: drilled.media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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53:50

Carbon Bros, Ep 4: Integration

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2025/09/05

The kings of the manosphere love to talk about “integrating” a man’s warrior and civilized self, but how about integrating men, and new ideas of masculinity, into the climate movement instead? What does that look like, who’s doing it, and where are there opportunities for repair and progress? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why Is the Fossil Fuel Industry Funding Anti-Trans ...

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2025/08/22

In this eye-opening episode of Carbon Bros, we hear from special guest Vivian Taylor, a researcher on both trans rights and climate policy, on the shocking connections between fossil billionaires and anti-trans campaigns. Turns out, it’s easy to distract people with genital inspectors so you don’t have to deal with methane leakage inspectors.Amy and Vivian break down the disturbing overlap between anti-trans, anti-climate, and other right-wing movements, as well as the critical need for unity in

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S12, Ep6 | The SLAPP Heard 'Round the World

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2025/08/19

The verdict comes through, more than doubling the damages, at a time when repression of protest is accelerating in the U.S., but somehow Energy Transfer's lawyers claim it is a victory for free speech. As the trial and our season wrap up, we take a look at what this verdict means for Indigenous rights, climate activists, and the decline of individual free speech rights in the U.S. as corporate free speech rights expand. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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48:49

Carbon Bros, Ep 3: Climate Hysteria, Doomers, and Boy...

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2025/08/17

Stop listening to hysterical Swedish teenagers and start listening to reasonable men! Some dudes do have solutions to the climate crisis; they just don’t involve messy interpersonal stuff, changing their lifestyles, or reorganizing the global economy. From techno quick fixes and visions of abundance to carbon capture and geoengineering to doomerism and colonies on Mars, we’ll take a look at how gendered notions of the climate crisis have led to individualized, “masculine” approaches to solving

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41:34

S12, Ep5: Sacred Sites

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2025/08/14

One of the charges Energy Transfer has made against Greenpeace is that the organization "defamed" the pipeline company by saying that construction of the pipeline was disturbing sites the tribe views as sacred. But the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe stands behind this claim. In this episode, we hear that story.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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