They Fear Our Flight, Not Our Fall | PMM 16
In this candid, free‑wheeling conversation, Jon and Max explore what happens when people who simply want to be left alone are pushed too far—and how that pressure cooker connects to young men, internet culture, and real‑world resilience. They reflect on the importance of physical labour, sport, mentorship, and male rites of passage as antidotes to fragility and online cattiness. From dogs and pecking orders to construction sites, ranges, and rugby pitches, they draw lines between embodied challenges