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The Steep Stuff Podcast

James Lauriello

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Sarah Carter - Pre Pikes Peak Ascent Interview

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2025/09/18

Send us a text The mental battle against the mountain defines Pike's Peak Ascent, drawing thousands to test their limits at what's rightfully earned its reputation as "America's Ultimate Challenge." Elite trail runners reveal that beyond physical preparation, it's the psychological fortitude required that brings them back year after year. When asked what keeps competitors returning to this grueling ascent, the answer is simple yet profound: "You're constantly wondering if you're going too ha...

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30:42

Jeff Cuno - Pre Pikes Peak Ascent Interview

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2025/09/18

Send us a text The mental and physical crucible of Pike's Peak brings together over 2,500 runners annually to test themselves against what organizers aptly call "America's Ultimate Challenge." What drives athletes back to this mountain year after year? As one elite runner explains, "You're constantly wondering if you're going too hard and if you're going to die... it's an ultimate mental battle." This conversation dives deep into the psychology of mountain racing, examining how athletes appr...

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97:58

History of the Pikes Peak Ascent & Marathon with Mark...

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2025/09/16

Send us a text What makes a mountain race become legendary? In this deep dive into the historic Pikes Peak Marathon and Ascent, we're joined by Mark Tatum to uncover the remarkable journey of America's third-oldest and longest consecutively running marathon. From its unlikely origins—when a Finnish doctor challenged smokers to race him up the mountain in 1958—to Arlene Piper becoming the first woman to complete a marathon in the United States in 1959 (in "dime store tennis shoes"), the race'...

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56:25

#121 - Anton Krupicka

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2025/09/15

Send us a text Ever wonder how a mountain runner's motivations evolve over decades in the sport? Anton Krupicka opens up about his remarkable journey from Nebraska ranch kid to ultrarunning legend in this captivating conversation recorded live at La Sportiva Boulder. Anton shares the origin story of his running career, from his science scholarship at Colorado College to his early days working at Colorado Running Company and running with the legendary Matt Carpenter. He reflects candidly on h...

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#120 - Benjamin Townsend

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2025/09/12

Send us a text Balancing on the knife edge between breakthrough performance and burnout, Benjamin Townsend takes us behind the scenes of his remarkable season traversing continents in pursuit of skyrunning glory. From the humid jungles of Malaysia to the technical Alps, his journey reveals the unseen challenges young athletes face when building a global racing career. The conversation opens with Benjamin's qualification for the U23 Skyrunner World Series Final and his rollercoaster experienc...

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Join us Thursday Sept 11th for a Live Pod with Anton...

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2025/09/10

Send us a text Join us Thursday Sept 11th for a Live Pod with Anton Krupicka at the La Sportiva Flagship store in Boulder, Colorado When - Thursday September 11th What - Group Run & Live Podcast with Anton Krupicka Timing - Group Run Starts at 5:30 pm / Live Pod Starts (around) 6:45/7pm RSVP - https://www.eventbrite.com/e/la-sportiva-summer-run-series-tickets-1344591662859

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46:36

#119 - Abby Stone

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2025/09/10

Send us a text Meet Abby Stone, a 19-year-old trail running phenom who's rewriting the traditional path to mountain running success. After placing 19th at the prestigious Broken Arrow Skyrace 23K in her first-ever trail race, Abby made the bold decision to leave collegiate running behind and dive headfirst into the world of mountain racing. What makes Abby's story so compelling is her refreshing perspective on competition. While she struggled with the pressure and "business" side of track an...

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67:47

#118 - Addison Smith

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2025/09/08

Send us a text What happens when an elite trail runner must quickly transition from racing a grueling mountain ultramarathon to coaching other athletes through their own epic challenges? Addison Smith lives this reality, and in our captivating conversation, he reveals the fascinating duality of his role at the UTMB festival in Chamonix. Fresh off his performance at the OCC race, Addison shares the mental gymnastics required to shift from competitor to coach within hours. "When you're really ...

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62:38

#117 - Adam Loomis

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2025/09/05

Send us a text When a Nordic Combined athlete transitions to mountain running, the results can be remarkable. Adam Loomis brings unique insights from his years as a national team ski jumper and cross-country skier to the challenging world of technical mountain races and ultramarathons. Having recently won the Telluride Mountain Run 40-mile race with a course record, Loomis opens up about how his specialized background has shaped his approach to trail running. "Training for Nordic Combined, y...

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67:26

#116 - Nicholas Turco

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2025/09/03

Send us a text Dive into the remarkable dual journey of Nicholas Turco, who seamlessly navigates the demanding worlds of elite trail running and international diplomacy. As one of only three American men invited to the prestigious Golden Trail World Series Final in Italy, Nicholas has established himself among the country's top mountain runners while simultaneously serving as a consultant for the United Nations Human Rights Office. From the vertical trails of Durango that shaped his early ru...

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#115 - Michael Earnhart

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2025/08/29

Send us a text Bronze medal Nordic skier Michael Earnhart opens up about the fascinating overlap between skiing and trail running, revealing why skiers consistently dominate mountain races despite minimal running-specific training. His journey from a young Alaskan runner to Olympic-level Nordic skier provides a unique window into the physiological and methodological advantages that transfer between sports. The secret lies in the structured, periodized training approach that Nordic skiers fol...

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#114 - Matt Daniels

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2025/08/27

Send us a text Matt Daniels opens up about his journey through the highs and lows of professional trail running in this wide-ranging, candid conversation. After battling significant health issues from mold exposure while simultaneously going through a divorce, Daniels shares how he's rebuilding his season around the prestigious Run Rabbit Run ultramarathon. The conversation takes us behind the scenes of the phenomenally successful Boulder Boys podcast, which Daniels co-hosts. What started as...

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69:58

UTMB OCC & Some ETC Race Preview with Teddy Tonelli

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2025/08/25

Send us a text Get ready for an exhilarating UTMB OCC race preview that blends expert analysis with laugh-out-loud banter! James Lariello teams up with Teddy Tonelli from the Chasing Trail podcast to break down this iconic 55K mountain race that features over 11,000 feet of climbing through some of the most spectacular terrain in the Alps. The duo dives deep into what makes OCC special - from its technical course that prohibits switchback cutting to the mandatory gear requirements that add a...

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#113 - Liam Meirow

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2025/08/22

Send us a text Ever wonder what happens when one of America's most talented track athletes fully commits to the trails? Liam Meirow joins us fresh off his win at the Y East Trail Fest 28K to share exactly that journey. Growing up in Summit County, Colorado, Liam's path wasn't initially pointed toward running - he dreamed of becoming a professional skateboarder or snowboarder. After finding success in high school running, he pursued a collegiate career at Oklahoma, where despite dedication, h...

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Special Announcement - Live Podcast at the La...

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2025/08/21

Send us a text Special Announcement - Live Podcast at the La Sportiva Summer Run Series with Special Guest - Anton Krupicka RSVP will be going live soon, so mark your calendars ! When : Thursday, September 11th Where: La Sportiva Store, Boulder Colorado Time: 5:00pm event start 5:30pm run start 6:45pm Live Podcast DM me on Instagram with any questions ! ___________________________...

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#112 - Jane Maus

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2025/08/19

Send us a text Jane Maus' trail running journey embodies perseverance against formidable odds. After multiple extended injury layoffs that nearly ended her running career, she's emerged as one of America's premier mountain athletes. Her remarkable comeback culminated in earning a coveted spot on Team USA for the World Trail Running Championships in Canfranc, Spain this September. The conversation reveals how strategic racing propelled Jane to success at the fiercely competitive Broken Arrow ...

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63:09

The State of Sub Ultra Part 2, with Emkay Sullivan &...

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2025/08/14

Send us a text Two of trail running's most beloved podcasts collide in this dynamic exploration of the sport's evolution, challenges, and future. The hosts of SubHub and Steep Stuff dive deep into trail running's identity crisis, debating whether "short trail" or "sub-ultra" better describes races under marathon distance – a conversation that reveals much about how we frame our sport's narrative. The discussion moves through fascinating territory, examining how races can achieve iconic statu...

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Announcing a Collaboration Episode Between the Sub...

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2025/08/13

Send us a text Announcing a Collaboration Episode Between the Sub Hub Podcast & The Steep Stuff ! Dropping tonight at 11pm MST - we will be releasing a "State of Sub Ultra" episode ! Part 1 will be available on the Sub Hub Podcast and Part 2 will be available on the Steep Stuff Podcast ! We hope you can tune in !

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#111 - Sarah Kushner

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2025/08/13

Send us a text Sarah Kushner captivates listeners with her remarkable journey from childhood jogs through Garden of the Gods to becoming the 2024 Pikes Peak Marathon Champion. With disarming honesty and warmth, she reveals how walking on to Baylor University's track team as a steeplechaser laid the foundation for her trail running success, despite never being the fastest collegiate runner. What makes Sarah's story particularly compelling is her perspective on competition and community. While...

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63:08

Sierre Zinal Race Preview with Bailey Kowalczyk

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2025/08/06

Send us a text Nestled in the Swiss Alps, Sierre-Zinal stands as perhaps the most competitive short trail race on the planet. It's the place where mountain running meets marathon speed in a showcase of pure athletic brilliance. To help break down this iconic event, host James Lauriello welcomes the perfect co-host – Bailey Kowalczyk, who scored a remarkable 5th place finish at the race in 2022. Bailey paints a vivid picture of what makes Sierre-Zinal so special: "It has that European energy ...

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