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Out The Gate Sailing

Benjamin Shaw

A podcast about sailing and adventure on and around San Francisco Bay

sports & recreation outdoor

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37:24

Isabel Lardner // Tall Ship Sailing - Ep. 126

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2023/09/05

Isabel Lardner has sailed many miles on tall ships, something I’ve always dreamed of doing. She share stories of her time at sea and describes what it’s like sailing these special ships.

48:10

Mary SwiftSwan // Afterguard Sailing - Ep. 125

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2023/08/22

Mary SwiftSwan is the founder of Afterguard Sailing in Oakland. Afterguard is only one of the three sailing schools she’s founded. She began teaching sailing in 1984, became the very first woman ASA instructor/evaluator, and has literally written the book on ASA instruction - helping write the ASA curriculum for the 101 and 103 courses.

40:31

Ryan May // May on the Bay Chartering - Ep. 124

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2023/08/07

Ryan May run’s his charter business, May on the Bay, out of Sausalito aboard his Catalina 34. A U.S. Coast Guard Captain, Ryan has logged over 25,000 offshore nautical miles since learning to sail as a kid in Toronto - visiting nearly 40 countries by sail. Ryan and I met because our kids went to the same school in San Francisco and quickly bonded over our similar sailing experience. Book a sail with Ryan at www.MayOnTheBay.com.

46:51

Leigh Hunt // Sailing: From Passion to Profession -...

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2023/07/25

Leigh Hunt is President and CEO of Modern Sailing school and club. Modern has been introducing people to sailing on SF Bay since 1983. In 2014, Leigh, decided to make his passion for sailing into a business - leaving a career in product management to purchase Modern from the previous owner. Recently Modern has expanded their operations, taking over the space in the Berkeley Marine Center that used to be OCSC.

52:12

Hank George // The Science of Lithium Batteries - Ep....

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2023/07/10

Hank George, of Blue Heron Battery, is an engineer who has a background working in the nuclear industry. Designing his own components, he was cruising with lithium power over a decade ago, years before most people. And he’s helped many other boaters do the same. In addition to his expertise, what has impressed me with Hank as I’ve gotten to know him over the past months is the clear way he’s able to explain complex topics with generosity and patience.

39:04

Jim Hancock // Sailing Science Center Update - Ep. 121

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2023/06/19

Years ago, Jim Hancock conceived of a hands-on, interactive learning center that would inspire a passion for sailing and science by delighting people through play and discovery. Jim and I talked about the Sailing Science Center four years ago when he was on the podcast. Since then the center has come a long way. They’re up and running with regular programing and an army of volunteers. In fact, this coming weekend on June 24, you can catch up with Jim and see and play with Sailing Science Center

39:08

Satchel Douglas // Race to Alaska on a Wing Foil...

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2023/06/07

The Race to Alaska is a wonderful race in which boats of all shapes and sizes head north from Port Townsend, Washington and end up in Ketchikan Alaska, 750 miles away. The only rules are no engines and no outside support. Satchel Douglas has done the race twice before - and joined me on Episode 9 of the show to talk about his effort as part of Team Shut Up and Drive. This time he joins me to talk about his latest attempt at the race aboard a wing foil! His story of how he qualified for the first leg

48:43

Jason Brown // Freediving in San Francisco Bay - Ep. 119

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2023/05/22

When Jason Brown started asking around about the possibility of freediving in San Francisco Bay people told him it was impossible. But my friend Jason has never been one to let impossible stand in his way. Together with his buddy John Prins he’s pioneered freediving just inside the Golden Gate in water that’s cold, dark, and frequented by massively strong currents. Not only has he attracted the attention of the press - with a recent front page article in the San Francisco Chronicle - but he’s

54:00

Malcolm Morgan // Sharing Decades of Marine...

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2023/05/08

At 10-years-old, Malcolm Morgan fell into boat maintenance when his family bought at Hobie Cat dealership after having sailed exactly once. He quickly took to doing electrical work and over the past 50 years has built up an expertise that is nearly unparalleled. Malcom works as a yacht broker for Oceanic Yachts and runs a marine electrical business, Malcolm Morgan Marine In our conversation, he shares his thoughts on proper grounding, lightning protection, lithium batteries and more.

36:10

Safety At Sea // A Weekend of Considering The Worst...

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2023/04/25

This week on OTG I discuss the U.S. Sailing Safety at Sea Seminar Lauren and I just took as well as the lithium battery conversion I am in the process of completing.

44:44

Heinz Baumann // From Pac Cup to Running a Charter...

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2023/04/10

Heinz Baumann learned to sail on lakes in Europe, but was introduced to a whole new world of sailing and racing when he moved to the Bay Area. He’s sailed his boat Rageboge, a 38-foot Hallberg Rassy, down to Mexico with his family and across the Pacific in the 2022 Pac Cup. More recently, he’s started a charter business called Swiss Adventures and he takes paying crew sailing in Alaska, all the way from Seward out to. Dutch Harbor in the Aleutian Islands.

45:14

Markus Pukonen // A Non-Motorized Circumnavigation of...

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2023/03/26

Markus Pukonen has been traveling the world for 7-and-a-half years. He’s sailed, he’s biked, he’s canoed, he’s kayaked, he’s stand-up paddlebarded and he’s pogo sticked his was around the globe. What he hasn’t done is traveled anywhere by motorized vehicle. I was introduced to Markus by a mutual sailing friend and I was excited to catch up with him just after his return to North America to hear about his amazing adventures and what inspired him to take this epic journey. You can learn more about

41:19

Ronnie Simpson // Preparing for the Global Solo...

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2023/03/19

Last time Ronnie Simpson was on the show, in 2020, we talked about being wounded by an RPG in Iraq and how sailing saved his life. This time, Ronnie and I talk about his preparation for the upcoming Global Solo Challenge, a new round-the-world sailing race. He’s currently in North Carolina preparing his boat Sparrow, an Open 50, for the race. You can follow his effort at www.RonnieSimpsonRacing.com

57:23

Bernard Dunayevich // Learning to Windsurf in Piranha...

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2023/03/06

Bernard Dunayevich owned one of the first windsurfers in Argentina and taught himself how to rig and sail it in piranha infested waters. But he says the main disincentive from falling in was the cold water and lack of a wetsuit. He’s come a long way from that first heavy board, having raced all over the world and even making a bid for the Olympic Games. Today he sails regularly out of Berkeley.

41:41

Simon & Sally Currin // From High Altitude Climbing...

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2023/02/21

Sally and Simon Currin met while planning an expedition to Mount Everest. Since then, they’ve traded in high altitude climbing for high latitude sailing, and in the process won awards from the Cruising Club of America and the Ocean Cruising Club for their navigation and exploration of Greenland’s Scoresby Sound - the largest fjord system in the world. Simon is also the current Commodore of the Ocean Cruising Club.

41:15

Susan Cole // A Memoir of Sailing, Love, and Loss -...

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2023/01/30

In the 90’s, Susan Cole, her husband John, her 7-year-old daughter Kate, and their dog Elmo all boarded their Mason 43 for a three-year adventure though the Caribbean with ups, downs, hurricanes, and more. I talk with Susan about her recently published memoir titled Holding Fast, that chronicles her family’s cruising trip but is really a love story. From falling in love, to setting sail together, to battling the cancer that eventually took John’s life, Susan shares in vivid detail moving and

54:17

Ryan Ellison // The Ups and Downs of Cruising for 5...

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2023/01/09

Ryan Ellison, who’s American, and Sophie Darsey, who’s French, met in Sweden. Together they learned to sail then purchased a 2007 Beneteau Oceanis 40 and set off sailing together in what they expected would be a one-year trip. Five years later they’re still cruising, having sailed from the North Sea to France, then Spain, then the Mediterranean, and then across the Atlantic to the Caribbean and up to the Chesapeake Bay. I talk with Ryan about his life-changing encounter with a goose, his traumatic

49:24

Chris & Marissa Neely // Throwing Off the Dock Lines...

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2022/12/19

I catch up with Chris and Marissa Neely aboard their Choy Lee 41 Avocet. After years of living aboard and working on their boat in Ventura, CA, they’ve thrown off the dock lines and are going cruising. Their first stop? San Francisco Bay. Chris grew up sailing on the Bay and they are excited to be back in home waters. You can follow Chris and Marissa on their trip through their popular and beautifully produced videos at Sailing Avocet.

39:43

Laura & Fede // Sailing Antarctica For a Living -...

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2022/12/06

Federico Guerrero grew up 4 blocks from the beach in Argentina. Laura Smith Grew up next to me, in Falls Church Virginia. The two of them fell in love with sailing independently and then met at sea aboard a ship - and soon after nurtured a plan to build their own boat and sail it to Antarctica. Today they run a charter business called Quixote Expeditions out of Ushuaia, Argentina - regularly taking guests on expeditions to Antarctica aboard one of the two vessels in their fleet. I talk to them about

40:30

Andy Cross // Raising two Boys While Cruising the...

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2022/11/21

Andy Cross grew up daysailing and cruising with his family in Michigan. He made his first offshore passage at 19 and he’s been working in the sailing industry pretty much ever since. In 2012, Andy and his wife Jill bough a Grand Soleil 39, named her Yahtzee, and threw off the lines to live aboard full time - raising two boys aboard the boat. They’ve sailed the Salish Sea, the Inside Passage, Alaska, San Francisco, Mexico, through the Panama Canal, Down to Columbia and beyond. Read Andy's blog at

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