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Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma

Treefort Media & Touchy Feely Films

chin-wag: to have a chat, a friendly conversation. Actor Paul Giamatti and Stephen Asma, author and philosopher, join forces for a freewheeling series of conversations that dive deep (like, really, really deep) into the wilderness of the mind. Featuring prominent guests from diverse fields, Chinwag is esoteric in the best way possible, as Paul and Stephen delve into anything and everything: Are we living in a simulation? What’s the most perfect sentence in literature? Is Bigfoot interdimensional

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36:11

Sexy Black Magic

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/10/09

🪄🪄🪄 Recorded live at Spotify Studios: get ready for a spellbinding adventure as Paul and Stephen dive into the mystical world of alchemy and black magic with Lodge 49 creator Jim Gavin! Ever heard of the shadowy figure Comenius or the immortal legends of like Joan of Arc and Saint Germain? Well, buckle up because we’re throwing in scorpios, the mysterious Voynich Manuscript, and, of course, a dash of sexy black magic. And what’s trending among the youngins? It might just be Wiccan Paganism

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39:27

Members Only: Secret Societies and Alchemy

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/10/02

🧙‍♂️✨👺Join Paul and Stephen on a wild ride through forgotten lore, secret societies, and the mystical world of alchemy recorded live at Spotify Studios in Los Angeles! Our hosts join forces with special guest Jim Gavin, creator of Lodge 49 and novelist extraordinaire. The trio unravels the hidden links between the Masons and the Templars, delving into their evolution from Europe’s first bankers to whispered accusations of witchcraft and Satanism. But that’s just the beginning! Jim sheds light

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29:12

CHINWAG LIVE: Dragon Out the Big Questions

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/09/25

🐲🐲🐲Join Paul and Stephen for a wild, off-the-rails Q&A session at their live taping in Portland! Brace yourself as they tackle burning questions like: What will future myths look like? What exactly is a eunuch? And which creature made its debut in cave paintings? Things get Freudian fast—yes, that kind of Freudian—and just when you think it can’t get weirder, the conversation turns to John Mack’s mind-bending book Passport to the Cosmos. Oh, and dragons! Because, obviously, dragons. But

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36:53

CHINWAG LIVE: Monsters, Myths, & Murder

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/09/18

👿👿👿 Recorded live from Portland’s Revolution Hall, Paul and Stephen are back with part two of their deep dive into myth and mayhem! This time, they unravel the wild legend of the Minotaur. Starting on the ancient Island of Crete, they trace the rise of King Minos, Queen Pasiphae’s bizarre infatuation with a divine bull, and the birth of the fearsome Minotaur, Asterius. You’ll get the full story of how Daedalus crafted the labyrinth to imprison the beast. Later, our hosts chase after other

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31:25

CHINWAG LIVE: A Unicorn and a Narwhal Walk Into a Bar

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/09/11

🦄🪄🦏Welcome to another thrilling episode of Chinwag recorded live at Portland's Revolution Hall! Today, Paul and Stephen dive into the enchanting world of magical creatures and cryptids. We're talking platypuses, narwhals, and, of course, unicorns! Paul reveals the unicorn’s ancient roots, the laziness of the chimera…and that unicorn horn was the first Viagra (really!?) And….is the narwhal’s horn really just a tooth growing out of its head? Join us for this CHINWAG LIVE into the

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53:33

Prof. Avi Loeb: Have Aliens sent us a gift?

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/09/04

☄️🔭👽Paul and Stephen are joined by illustrious theoretical physicist, Harvard Professor and space detective, Avi Loeb. And if you think you know his POV already, you may be surprised! Get ready for a cosmic journey as Professor Loeb shares his insights on the mysteries of the universe and the search for extraterrestrial life. Why, pray tell, isn’t Professor Loeb thrilled about eclipses? And are aliens actually more advanced than us? Here’s a thought: if they find us first, they're probably the

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54:33

ENCORE: Even Psychopaths Suffer Burnout with Candice...

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/08/28

🔪🔪🔪This week, one of Paul and Stephen’s favorite Chinwags: Killer Psyche podcast host, Candice DeLong. Candice spent two decades in the FBI as a criminal profiler tracking serial killers and working such notorious cases as the Unabomber and the Chicago Tylenol Murders. Paul and Stephen explore the terrifying and tactical world of tracking murderers with Candice and learn that even psychopaths suffer career burnout. Bonus: learn about predictive behaviors of serial killers (bed-wetting?!), Ted

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51:22

The UFO Episode

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/08/21

🛸🛸🛸Paul and Stephen are joined by intrepid investigative journalist Leslie Kean — the very journalist who broke the groundbreaking 2017 UFO story to The New York Times and introduced the world to the Pentagon’s UFO videos. Leslie unveils the intriguing story of Luis Elizondo, the former head of the Pentagon program responsible for the investigation of UFOs—now known as Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP). Elizondo released groundbreaking videotapes of pilots' first-hand encounters with

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27:18

CHINWAG LIVE: Were the Wolves At?

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/08/14

🐺🐺🐺Under the shadow of the full moon at the Boston Armory, Paul and Stephen tackle beastly audience questions in this live recording of Chinwag. Ever wondered why cats are such mysterious predators, or if Bela Lugosi really donned werewolf fur? The conversation shifts to popular culture’s take on werewolves, the impact of Twilight on werewolf culture, and Paul's musings on whether his role in The Holdovers is a reverse werewolf. And which of Paul’s roles stands as his all-time favorite? Later,

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58:23

CHINWAG LIVE: The Werewolf Experience

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/08/07

🐺🌖🐺Recorded live at the historic Boston Armory, join hosts Paul and Stephen for a thrilling conversation on werewolves, from ancient myths to modern interpretations. Go back in time to break down the great werewolves of the past: Jan Thys of Livonia, Peter Stump, and of course…the Beast of Gévaudan, a mysterious creature in 18th-century France. Later, Paul and Stephen dive into were-hyenas, were-crocodiles, and a man who thinks he transformed into a buffalo! And of course, it wouldn’t be a

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38:27

Mark Mothersbaugh is DEVOted: Part 2

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/07/31

🧿🧿🧿More Chinwag with DEVO’S co-founder, and author of the beautiful new book “Apotropaic Beatnik Graffiti”, Mark Mothersbaugh. Mark shares his earliest memory of AI which happened to involve Timothy Leary’s AI therapist! Then, DEVO’s frontman takes us back to a memorable church trip when he hears people speaking in tongues. And what’s all that got to do with The Flintstones? What’s the importance of collecting stuff, and how does it contribute to AI? Also, a discussion on the significance and

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40:46

DEVOlution with Mark Mothersbaugh

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/07/24

🤖🖼🎸This Chinwag welcomes Mark Mothersbaugh, DEVO’s co-founder and author of the fascinating new book “Apotropaic Beatnik Graffiti.” Come along and reminisce about DEVO’s first live appearance on SNL, thanks to the legendary Blues Brothers, Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi. Mark is tickled to learn Paul and Stephen were spooked by DEVO as kids, and Mark explains why he thought rock ‘n’ roll was dead by 1964. Then, the art movements that inspired DEVO, and Mark shares a pivotal moment during the

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77:39

On Disability & Monsters

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/07/17

🦾🐕‍🦺🦻🏼On this riveting Chinwag, Paul and Stephen speak to Riva Lehrer, an award-winning artist, writer, and curator with an unconventional approach to portraiture. Together they explore the nuances of living with a disability, stigma, defining beauty, and the complexities of human interactions. Riva shares the importance of representation and the burden of standing out in a world that often overlooks diversity. Talk then turns to “inspiration porn”, reclaiming narratives, and an overview of

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59:31

Fortean Times Talk

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/07/10

📰🛸🕵🏼‍♀️Fortean Times has been bringing weirdness into people’s lives for over 50 years and Paul’s been reading its pages since he was a mere Chin-cub. Now join Paul and Stephen as they meet the man behind the mag, esteemed New Editor, Ian Simmons. What follows is a mind-bending exploration of the weird and wonderful including a colorful sketch of the life and work of Charles Fort—a guiding spirit of this humble Chinwag podcast. Fort, known for his unique style of collecting and presenting

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24:11

Mothman: Legend and Lore

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/07/05

👨🏼‍🏫🍏🕰️The Professor is in for Chinwag Office Hours! Professor Stephen Asma offers his rarefied time and detours into more of the unusual topics you crave. This week on Office Hours, Stephen drops his knowledge on the Mothman and the psychology of creepiness. What is the purpose of creepy feelings and eerie sensations? Are they interdimensional beings of energy that exist to warn and protect us? Hear the first sightings of the Mothman, classic stories of Mothman, and question whether this

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60:09

ENCORE: The Cult of Kathryn Hahn

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/07/03

🏐🏐🏐 Paul Giamatti and Stephen Asma were delighted to speak with the wonderful Kathryn Hahn in this early Chinwag gem. They were fascinated by Hahn's deep knowledge of cults, con men, hypnosis, brainwashing dogs, and the power of late night volleyball sessions. Hear about Travis the chimpanzee, radical nuns, lice couches, whether the Popes "Netflix and chill," and that time Paul fought off kidnapping Krishnas in Northern Ireland! Paul Giamatti is an award-winning actor and producer, and the

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57:36

ASK THE PHILOSOPHER! PT DEUX

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/06/26

📚🧐🏛Paul’s been studying up on Western philosophy and has even more burning questions for our exceedingly patient resident expert, Professor Stephen Asma. Lean in to these bite-sized lessons about rationalists, empiricists and idealists, and Stephen’s explanation of the notoriously difficult to understand German philosopher Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel. Then it’s on to romantic thinkers like Arthur Schopenhauer, or as Paul describes him “the pessimist.” Next are key figures in the philosophy

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24:55

Bonus-wag: Burning Questions with Bill Hader

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/06/21

😊🎙️👽It’s the audience’s turn to ask Paul, Stephen and the hilarious Bill Hader anything at this Chinwag recorded live from Dynasty Typewriter in L.A., and things go off the rails pretty quick! If aliens land on Earth, what movie would this trio show them first? Then at the audience’s prodding, hear their favorite alien abduction movies, which cryptids they’d most want to be, and their most common soup order. Is it Split Pea? Tomato? Borscht? You know you want to know! Also the guys meet a

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64:17

CHINWAG LIVE: Bill Hader Unleashed and Waggin'

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/06/19

🎬🍿🎞Recorded live at Dynasty Typewriter in Los Angeles, Paul and Stephen are joined by comedy legend Bill Hader for a night of hilarious and obscure impressions, a rundown of insane B- movies, their shared fear of the school bus, and so much more! What did Hader overhear director Sam Raimi say walking out of a screening of Cannibal Holocaust? What advice did Arnold Schwarzenegger offer young production associate Bill Hader? You know you’re dying to know - and hear Hader’s uncanny Schwarzenegger

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23:51

Bonus-wag: David Grann

Paul Giamatti’s CHINWAG with Stephen Asma ·

2024/06/14

📓✍🏽🛢️In this captivating Bonus-Wag, hosts Paul and Stephen sit down with investigative historian David Grann for a cerebral exploration. Grann’s journey began as a journalist with an insatiable passion for storytelling. How did he transition from reporting facts to weaving gripping narratives? Then, imagine a man unfairly sent to death row, despite evidence screaming his innocence. How could prosecutors ignore the truth? Paul, Stephen, and Grann dissect this real-world mystery, questioning

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