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Cloud 9fin

Leveraged finance, distressed debt, and private credit drive today’s markets. Cloud 9fin delivers expert insights on high-yield bonds, syndicated loans, direct lending, and debt restructuring. Join top analysts and investors as we explore credit markets, special situations, and private debt strategies shaping the industry. From credit risk assessment to institutional credit trends, each episode provides actionable intelligence for fund managers, institutional investors, and financial professionals

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11:51

Jane’s LME Addiction — Rachel Murray will fix your...

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/06/09

In this episode of Jane’s LME Addiction, our head of LME coverage Jane Komsky brings in Rachel Murray, a managing director at Moelis, to discuss how today’s restructuring environment compares to the Covid era and how that experience can guide clients. They discuss what makes an LME effective, in addition to current trends and techniques that are shaping the space.Check out all of our LME coverage at 9fin.com.Have any feedback on the podcast? Send us a note at podcast@9fin.com — thanks for

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41:24

CLOs are now a family business

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/06/03

In this episode of Cloud 9fin, Tanvi Gupta, global head of CLOs at 9fin, talks with Yang Xu, CEO at City Hall Capital, to discuss the growth of family offices allocating to CLOs.They talk about how CLO equity and mezz ticks all the boxes for family offices, the need for more double-B CLO funds, captive equity vs third party equity funds, and how CLO managers need to do more to educate family offices, which other asset classes do better.

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14:19

Syndication Nation — Warner Bros Discovery on fallen...

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/05/30

In the inaugural episode of Syndication Nation, 9fin’s podcast on all things syndicated debt, deputy editor William Hoffman joined US managing editor Bill Weisbrod to talk about his recent coverage of Warner Bros. Discovery and its $37bn of debt to high yield by S&P. They discussed what led to the downgrade, the prospects for the company reaching full-blown fallen angel status, and broader implications for the high yield market if and when that happens.Have any feedback on the podcast

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35:13

Managing global loan data from the middle

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/05/27

In today’s market, speed of information and up-to-the-minute accuracy are essential in portfolio management. With that in mind, Chase Collum, head of podcasts at 9fin, sat down with Scott Alintoff at FIS to discuss how lenders can ensure they’re staying ahead in these turbulent times.In this third of a series of discussions, Scott shares a high level view of the state of the market, current challenges, and how technology is helping people in the middle office manage the mountains of data

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24:51

Distressed Diaries — Fly on the wall to Altice France...

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/05/22

Altice France’s restructuring negotiations has been one of the hottest talks of the distress town since last year. With the company now preparing to enter into accelerated safeguard proceedings, we went through what happened so far in our inaugural episode of Distressed Diaries — a brand new 9fin podcast series focused on distressed debt in Europe.Senior distressed reporter Bianca Boorer, host of the series, travelled to Paris to meet with key advisors involved in the negotiations. She sits

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18:08

Canyon Partners’ Sheffield and Barzideh talk...

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/05/15

US tariff policy has unleashed economic uncertainty both domestically and elsewhere. Even after a de-escalation of the worst trade tensions with China, things are still unclear.In this episode of Cloud 9fin, distressed debt reporter Max Reyes sits down with Canyon Partners opportunistic credit co-heads Chaney Sheffield and Jonathan Barzideh to better understand what unique investments can be made in the current economy and how they’re making sense of the chaos.Have any feedback for us? Send

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18:36

Nothing venture-d, nothing gained

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/05/08

Here at 9fin, we pride ourselves on being private credit enthusiasts. And that means covering all parts of the market, big or small. This includes all the nascent and niche areas like venture debt and tech lending.In this episode of Cloud 9fin, senior private credit reporter Peter Benson sits down with Ron Daniel, co-founder and CEO of Liquidity Group, a direct lender focused on tech lending. The conversation ranges from the concepts of venture debt and tech lending and how they are

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35:11

New organ, old body — how to avoid 'tissue rejection'...

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/04/30

Generally speaking, lenders don’t lend money to companies with the intention of ending up as equity owners. But things don’t always go to plan. And anyone who’s been there can tell you that the hard truth for certain companies is that no plan could have ever saved it — or as Jon Weber would say: “If the baby’s ugly, the baby’s ugly.”In this week’s episode of Cloud 9fin, senior private credit reporter Shubham Saharan sits down with Jon Weber and Gisele Everett of restructuring advisory Jon F

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14:49

Private credit terms in the time of tariffs

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/04/23

A seemingly endless cycle of tariff pronouncements and delays has been sending stocks and liquid debt markets on a roller coaster ride in recent weeks.But what does ever-changing US tariff policy and associated market volatility mean for private credit firms? How do direct lenders keep protect themselves from the fallout and what are the key points in credit agreements these days? Join 9fin’s senior private credit reporter, Shubham Saharan, and Mayer Brown’s head of NY private credit, Sheel

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26:03

Tariff volatility offers opportunities for CLOs

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/04/15

In this episode of Cloud 9fin, Tanvi Gupta, global head of CLOs at 9fin, talks with Carlyle’s Lauren Basmadjian, global head of liquid credit, and Matt Maxwell, head of US loans, to discuss how CLO managers are positioning themselves in the current tariff induced volatility.They talk about taking advantage of the dislocation in the market, sector specific tariff risk, opportunities for a pull to par trade, how to pick the right assets with the current backdrop of LME risk and how these

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22:02

Jane’s LME Addiction — Dan Kamensky will Fight for...

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/04/10

In this episode of Jane’s LME Addiction, our head of LME coverage Jane Komsky brings in founder and board member of Creditor Rights Coalition, Dan Kamensky, to discuss treatment for similarly situated creditors within liability management exercises. They discuss when disparity in treatment becomes an issue, lender tools to fight back, and where advocacy is most needed.Find all our coverage on creditor organization at 9fin.com.Have any feedback on the podcast? Send us a note at

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18:44

In private credit, smaller is sometimes better

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/04/07

On why some lower middle market lending specialists like to stay investing in companies with a sub-$50m EBITDA, they like to joke that it is because they like covenants.With some larger private credit managers jostling for deals at the upper end of the middle market, a larger number are sticking to their knitting in focusing on financing those smaller companies. It’s private credit’s historical sweet spot and is a space immune to some of the more borrower-friendly trends seen in competitive

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18:33

The Ardagh LME origin story

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/04/01

Was Ardagh's carve-out of its metal packaging business in 2021 an early example of a European LME before LMEs went global? Call it what you will, the troubled packaging conglomerate is getting a taste of both the potential upside and the backlash caused by these controversial financial maneuvers.In this episode, 9fin's global head of restructuring, Max Frumes, sat down with European senior distressed credit analyst Emmet McNally to discuss some of the events that led us here. Events so far

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39:19

AI fireside with Steven Hunter and Sujeet Indap

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/03/20

AI is eating the world, or so the headlines say. But what does this really mean for debt markets? Where does AI truly excel, and what limitations persist? What implications does this technological shift hold for analysts' jobs? And how is 9fin deploying AI to address specific challenges confronting debt market professionals?Sujeet Indap, Wall Street editor at the Financial Times, sat down with Steven Hunter, CEO and co-founder of 9fin, to cut through the hype and dissect the real impact of

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28:23

Mastering middle office data and decisions

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/03/13

No one likes that feeling of being a little too thick in the middle. But finding the right balance of strength and cushion is no easy task. We’re talking about the middle office here, of course.The middle office may not always be in the spotlight, but when loan data goes awry it’s the team that keeps the gears turning and numbers in check. In this episode, head of podcasts Chase Collum chats with Jared Vest, global co-head of middle office solutions at FIS, to break down the middle office's

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21:20

Bringing loan data from fax to the future

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/03/06

In the credit markets, it’s important practitioners get their fax straight. No, you didn’t read that wrong — even in 2025, people still use fax machines to transmit some loans data.In our latest Cloud 9fin episode, Chase Collum, head of podcasts, and private credit analyst Devin McGinley, sit down with John Smullen, product manager at FIS. They chat about how global data trends are shaping strategies in the leveraged finance world as private credit CLOs and direct lending gain ground.This

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28:05

Scott Greenberg wants your cooperation

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/03/05

In this episode of Jane’s LME Addiction, our head of LME coverage Jane Komsky brings in global chair of Gibson Dunn’s restructuring group, Scott Greenberg, to discuss the evolution of cooperation agreements within liability management exercises. They discuss the different types of co-ops, why co-ops have become expected in US deals, their spread to the EU, and the validity of antitrust arguments.Find all our coverage on co-ops at 9fin.com.Have any feedback on the podcast? Send us a note at

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23:24

Getty-ing back with your X, on Snapchat

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/02/26

Three media companies, in vaguely the same vicinity, in fair debt markets where we lay our scene — where ancient business models encounter new scrutiny, and AI generates images you can’t unsee…Valentine’s Day has been and gone, so why on earth are we besmirching Romeo and Juliet with terrible puns? You should listen to the episode for the full picture, but basically we’re discussing three recent debt transactions from X/Twitter, Snap, and Getty Images.These deals might not seem immediately

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7:24

For the continuation fun[d] of it

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/02/21

In the private equity world, continuation vehicles have been a bit of a blockbuster, so can the structure's success transfer to private credit?We have already seen BlackRock's $1.3bn continuation vehicle last year, and some market participants are expecting to see even more in 2025. On the other side however, this might not be as straight forward as in the PE world, and there is a growing pool of skeptics.In this episode of Cloud 9fin, senior private credit reporter Synne Johnsson sits down

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41:24

SRT leverage is fun and cool

Cloud 9fin ·

2025/02/14

We talk a lot about leverage at the 9fin office (it’s kind of the story behind our company name, in case you were wondering) so it should come as no surprise that we think it’s interesting. But in the world of Significant Risk Transfer, it’s especially fascinating — and controversial.You may have caught the story that Celeste Tamers, part of our growing asset-based finance team, broke last week about Deutsche Bank pulling back from offering repo financing on SRT trades.In this episode of

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