Cheeky Pint

Dario Amodei joins John Collison to talk about Anthropic's growth to ~$5 billion in ARR, how AI models show capitalistic impulses, predictions for an agentic future, the economics of model businesses, and the 19th-century concept of vitalism.Full episode transcript on Substack: https://cheekypint.substack.com/p/a-cheeky-pint-with-anthropic-ceoTimestamps(00:00) Intro(00:50) Working with your sibling(01:43) Building Anthropic with 7 cofounders(02:52) ~$5 billion in ARR and vertical

Pieter Levels joins John Collison to discuss building successful online businesses as a digital nomad, thoughts on European accelerationism, and Pieter’s unconventional methods and philosophy as a bootstrapped founder making over $3 million per year.Timestamps00:00 Intro00:37 Pieter’s resume01:33 Trying to make money online as a 12 year old02:43 Being one of the first YouTube creators03:18 Who should indie hack04:31 What Pieter hates about VC-backed businesses07:51 Who is digital nomading

The Bot Company founder and CEO Kyle Vogt—who also cofounded Twitch and Cruise—joins John Collison to talk about applying AI to home robots, the similarities between robotics and self-driving, and why the next $100 billion company will have fewer than 100 people.Timestamps(00:00) Intro(00:38) The Bot Company pitch(02:05) Single-task vs. multi-task robots(04:27) What is the Turing test for robotics?(05:52) Why this time is different for home robots(08:42) The last mile in robotics and

Greg Brockman—OpenAI cofounder and Stripe's first engineer—joins John Collison to talk about research-driven product development, an early moment he thought OpenAI was doomed, S curves in AI advancement, and energy bottlenecks.Timestamps(00:00) Intro(02:51) Was OpenAI the first company to take the scaling hypothesis seriously? (04:53) Lessons from Dota about deep learning (08:08) What is a good new Turing test?(08:57) Personalization in AI (09:57) Research-driven product development(10:26)

Susan Li of Meta—the youngest chief financial officer of a Fortune 100 company—joins John Collison to talk about capital allocation, managing investors, and how Mark Zuckerberg has changed over the 17 years of working together.Timestamps(00:00) Intro(01:20) Early education and career(02:15) Lessons from Michael Grimes at Morgan Stanley(03:12) Leadership traits and succession planning at Meta(06:05) Mark Zuckerberg’s leadership and culture of feedback(09:06) Financial forecasting and capital

John sits down with founders and builders over a pint—Greg Brockman (cofounder of OpenAI), Susan Li (chief financial officer at Meta), Kyle Vogt (founder of The Bot Company and cofounder of Twitch and Cruise), and Pieter Levels (indie hacker).Watch Cheeky Pint on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@stripe.