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It"s Not About the Money: In Search of Grounded Fundraising

Heather Winchell and Andy Brennan

For us, ministry fundraising is the overflow of a deep sense of purpose. In “It’s Not About the Money”, we look past formulas, and explore both the nuance and the big picture of the fundraising journey. It’s not about tips, tricks, or clever phrasing. It’s about being grounded. Each episode focuses on an aspect of real life as a support-seeker. We hold space for both practice and theory. Join us as we explore the truth that, while the funding is essential, it’s not about the money.

religion & spirituality non-profit

All Episodes

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42. Mary Valloni on Building Trust in an age of...

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2025/02/05

"Trust isn’t built overnight—it’s built in the little, consistent moments where we show up authentically." "When you go in for a transaction instead of a relationship, it feels dirty. But fundraising isn’t about money—it’s about partnerships and impact." "We aren’t selling a product—we’re inviting people to be part of the greatest mission of all time." In this episode, Mary Valloni, fundraising expert and host of the Fully Funded Podcast, joins the conversation to unpack the crucial role of ...

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41. Season 3 in Review

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2025/01/01

WOW, what a season. We had fantastic stand alone conversations about church partnerships, domestic fundraising, spiritual health, soul care, and so much more. Heather was joined by special co-host Jenn Smyth for a six part mini-series on fundraising in ethnically diverse communities. Andy and Heather briefly review this season's episodes, give some stats from Spotify, and share a sneak peak for what is coming up in season 4! It would be so helpful if you would take a moment to...

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40. Dr. Will Smallwood on 1000 Days Transformed Campaign

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2024/10/09

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Heather and Andy sit down with Dr. Will Smallwood from Cedarville University. Dr. Smallwood shares the incredible journey of Cedarville's 1000 Days Transformed campaign, which has raised over $158.7 million to date. He discusses his unexpected path to becoming a career fundraiser, the vital role of storytelling in fundraising, and the importance of intentional discipleship at Cedarville.Dr. Smallwood...

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39. (Mini Series EP 6) Beth Smith on Listening and...

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2024/09/04

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!Join Heather and co-host Jenn as they conclude their mini-series on the unique considerations of support raising in ethnically diverse communities. In this episode, they are joined by Beth Smith, interim MPD director with BSM in Texas. Beth shares her extensive experience in fundraising within the Baptist Student Ministry and the insights gained from supporting a diverse staff. From understanding the cultural nuances of different communities to c...

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38. (Mini Series EP 5) Jeremiah and Maysa Vaught

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2024/08/28

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!In this fifth episode of the mini-series, Heather and Jenn are excited to welcome Jeremiah Vaught, who, along with his wife Maysa, has been deeply involved in ministry and church planting in Chicago. Jeremiah shares his journey from the initial days of fundraising to planting a church in one of the most diverse zip codes in the nation. He discusses the cultural nuances of fundraising, the challenges of asking for support within different communit...

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37. (Mini Series EP4) Dennis and Evangeline Chow

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2024/08/21

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!Join Heather and special co-host Jenn as they continue their mini-series focused on fundraising considerations from ethnically diverse backgrounds. In this episode, they are thrilled to speak with Dennis and Evangeline Chow, who are currently serving in the Philippines. The Chows share their unique journey from college days at Penn State to their impactful ministry at Faith Academy, where they support missionary kids. They delve into the challeng...

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36. (Mini Series EP 3) Chay'vion Carter

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2024/08/14

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!Join Heather and co-host Jenn as they continue their mini-series on fundraising in ethnically diverse communities with special guest Chay'vion Carter. Chay'vion, who has been working with Campus Outreach at the University of North Texas since 2021, shares his unique journey of raising support from a Black church context. From the initial challenges of fear and doubt to the practical steps that led to his success, Chay'vion offers invaluable insig...

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35. (Mini Series EP 2) Beca Acuna

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2024/08/07

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!Join Heather and co-host Jenn as they dive into the unique challenges and opportunities of support raising in ethnically diverse communities with special guest Becca Acuna. Becca, who has been working with Texas BSM in San Antonio for the past five years, shares her journey from nursing to campus ministry, the cultural nuances she navigates in Hispanic communities, and the relational dynamics that shape her fundraising efforts.Becca opens up abou...

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34. (Mini Series EP 1) Jenn Smyth

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2024/07/31

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!Join Heather and her new co-host, Jen Smith, as they kick off a mini-series focusing on support raising in ethnically diverse communities. Jen shares her unique journey from high school fundraisers to long-term missions in China, and the cultural nuances she navigated within Korean American churches. Together, they explore the generational shifts in the Korean church, the importance of relational fundraising, and the power of being sent by a loca...

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33. (Mini Series KICK OFF) The Samuel family: Support...

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2024/07/24

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!Join Heather and Andy as they kick off a new mini-series focusing on support raising in ethnically diverse communities with a compelling conversation featuring Brandon and Cat Samuel from Wycliffe Bible Translators. They delve into the Bridge Program, an initiative aimed at bringing more diverse staff into global missions, and share their unique journey from atheism to a Christ-centered mission life.Brandon and Cat reveal how they transitioned fr...

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32.5 RECAP with Bo and Jess Bissell

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2024/07/17

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!Heather and Andy are joined in the RECAP by Jess and Bo Bissell, support raising coaches from Pioneers. Jess and Bo share their unique journey from missionaries in Japan to coaching new and seasoned workers in partnership development. They open up about their experiences, the challenges of rejuvenating fundraising efforts, and the importance of spiritual health in the process. The conversation delves into the fears and misconceptions surrounding ...

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32. Callie Davis on Spiritually Healthy Fundraising

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2024/07/10

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!In this episode, Heather and Andy are joined by Callie Davis from the Via Generosity team to delve into the crucial aspect of spiritual health in support-based ministry. Callie shares her journey from growing up in a support-raising family to her current role in creating resources for partnership development. The discussion highlights the importance of gratitude, community, and God-centered focus in the fundraising process.From recognizing early ...

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31.5 RECAP with Dr. Mandy

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2024/07/03

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Heather and Andy are joined by Dr. Mandy, a newly minted Doctor of Education in Organizational Change and Leadership from the University of Southern California. Together, they recap the insightful conversation with Josh Lindstrom, focusing on themes of endurance, intentional rest, and the nuanced challenges of support-based ministry.Dr. Mandy shares her extensive experience from 20 years in overseas ...

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31. Pastor Josh Lindstrom on Endurance in Fundraising

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2024/06/26

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!In this episode, Heather and Andy welcome back Pastor Josh Lindstrom, teaching pastor at Woodman Valley Chapel, to discuss the critical theme of endurance in fundraising. Pastor Josh shares insights from his own ministry and the biblical story of Elijah, highlighting the importance of rest, perseverance, and trust in God’s provision.From exploring the innovative "Year of Sabbath" at Woodman Valley Chapel to unpacking the highs and lows of Elijah’...

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30.5 RECAP with Danielle Nelson

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2024/06/19

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Heather and Andy are joined by Danielle Nelson, a seasoned project manager with extensive experience in mobilizing and coaching people in support-based work. Together, they recap the enlightening conversation with Bryn and Christine, who shared their unique perspectives on short-term fundraising from their respective stages in life—one in college and the other established in her career.Danielle highl...

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30. Short Term Panel on all things Short Term...

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2024/06/12

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Andy welcomes special guest co-host Sarah Macy, who steps in for Heather. Together, they delve into the intricacies of short-term fundraising with guests Brynn Holtmeyer and Christine Campanella. Brynn, a junior special ed major at Concordia University, and Christine, a seasoned elementary math teacher, share their journeys in mobilizing support for their respective trips. The conversation covers the...

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29.5 RECAP with Bernie Anderson

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2024/06/05

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!In this episode, we recap our insightful conversation with Amy Young, founder of Global Trellis. To help us unpack the profound topics discussed, we are joined by Bernie Anderson from Growability. Bernie brings his extensive experience in business development and cross-cultural work to the table, offering a unique perspective on the challenges and opportunities in the fundraising world.It would be so helpful if you would take a moment to rate and...

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29. Amy Young on Your Humanity in Fundraising

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2024/05/29

Have an episode idea or feedback? Text us here!In this episode, Heather and Andy dive into a profound discussion with Amy Young, founder of Global Trellis and co-founder of Velvet Ashes. Amy shares her extensive experience in support-based ministry, spanning nearly three decades, and her insights into honoring humanity in the fundraising process.From the challenges of maintaining personal well-being while serving abroad to the nuances of navigating supporter relationships, this episode explor...

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28.5 RECAP with Amy Young

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2024/05/22

We are joined by Amy Young of Global Trellis as we recap the Halligan episode and talk about the multifaceted reality of transition and disruption. It would be so helpful if you would take a moment to rate and review the show - thanks in advance!Have an idea for a guest or topic? WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU!Contact us!on Instagram @ its.not.about.the.money.podemail us: provisio@provisiofundraising.comTHANKS FOR LISTENING!

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28. The Halligans on Facing the Unexpected

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2024/05/15

When life "throws a curveball," how do we navigate the unexpected challenges that shake the foundation of our plans and partnerships? In this episode, we explore the profound impact of life's unforeseen events on support-based ministry. Join us as we sit down with Seth and Megan Halligan, who share their transformative journey from serving overseas to facing a life-altering family crisis. Through their story, we delve into the significance of established communication, the power of a sup...

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