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Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast

Sarah Wendell & Jane Litte

Each week on Smart Podcast, Trashy Books, Sarah Wendell interviews authors, readers, reviewers, bloggers, publishing professionals, editors, and librarians about romance novels, which are among the most popular genres in fiction worldwide. Popular guests include: Ilona Andrews, Robin Bradford, NPR"s Barrie Hardymon, Chuck Tingle, Sarah J. Maas, and Rachel Aaron. Amanda Diehl, co-pilot of the SS Smart Bitches, makes regular appearances with maximum silliness, especially during our Romantic Times

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634. Climbing Mt. Fuji with Courtney Milan

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/09/27

Courtney Milan is here to talk about her newest book,The Earl Who Isn’t,and about climbing Mt. Fuji! Along the way we talk about training, the shifting style of historical romances, and audiobooks.And we have questions from you!A few moments to be aware of before you listen: we talk a little about her dog Pele, who passed away earlier this year.We also mention briefly the topics of antifat bias in medicine, weight gain, chafing, trauma, workplace abuse, cancer, and sexual harassment.Thank you to

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54:31

632. Being Fine with Friends, with Jolenta Greenberg...

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/09/13

Jolenta Greenberg and Kristen Meinzer are podcasting powerhouses with shows likeBy the BookandHow to be Fine With Friends.This season they’re looking at friendship, the research behind sustaining friendships, ending relationships, and creating new connections with people – and they joined me to talk all about it.You can find their show,How to be Fine with Friendswhere you get your podcasts – like this one!TW/CW: short discussion of diet culture and diet books just after Kristen introduces herself

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53:50

628. Real Housewives and Romance Readers with Shana

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/08/16

Continuing my exploration of reality franchises that are favorites of romance readers, Shana joins me to talk about theReal Housewivesfranchise:her favoriteReal Housewiveslocations and seasons, and what aspects of this reality franchise appeal to romance readers.We cover relationships, conflict, and the blend of fiction and “reality,” and some of the ethical considerations as well, especially with theReal Housewives of Dubai.Are you a Real Housewives watcher? Which ones? Do you think there’s a

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1:18:49

627. RT Rewind: October 1999 Reviews!

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/08/09

We have a special guest! Alison, aka Fashionably Evil, won our Romancing the Vote auction to co-host this round of RT Rewind with us! Congratulations!!Alison picked our issue, October 1999, and wow, it’s just as weird as we’d hoped.And, as part of the auction, we offered a midroll ad, which we typically don’t run. Alison chose to use her midroll to promote a website we love and admire,Scarleteen.com.We start with a discussion of Alison’s incredible spreadsheet that she made us (❤️!) anda discussion

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1:05:16

621. RT Rewind: September 2002 Ads & Features

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/06/28

We’re going back in time to look at the ads and features of the September 2002 issue of Romantic Times!This issue left us with many questions, such as:What the hell is Tart Noir?Are reviewers elsewhere too mean? (Not us – we weren’t online yet!)How much lore is there about pesto?Should you jump into a pile of leaves?Should you soak crawfish tails in milk?Why is an author defending polygamy?What snack is best for reading and why is it not an apple?We had a lot of fun, even if the feature article was

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46:58

619. RT Rewind: September 2002 Reviews

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2024/06/14

We asked our Patreon community to vote on this month’s issue, and September 2002 won by a wide margin. So let’s dive into the book reviews, shall we?There are strange subcategories and overlapping genres, and also color-conscious aliens and amnesia, too. Plus, we talk a bit about one of the best lines Avon ever produced.Don’t miss the visual aids, because some of the covers are something.We also mentioned:Avon True RomancesA thread from Ashia Monet on the shift away from story arc to story trope

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1:03:20

611. Romantic Times Rewind: April 2005 Ads & Features

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/04/19

Y’all, the April 2005 issue of Romantic Times is a treasure of truly amazing fun. So many of you told me that episode 609, where we looked at the reviews, made you laugh so hard you cried.Well, let me share some highlights of what is about to happen to your eardrums.The Mr. Romance Cover Model Pageant was a Six-episode reality tv show on the Oxygen network, and we missed it when it ran. It’s not all on YouTube but we have a few links!We have the arrival of what I called the “venti sized”

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1:01:59

609. Romantic Times Rewind: April 2005 Reviews

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/04/05

We’re taking a tour through the new releases across many genres from April 2005, nearly 20 (!!!) years ago. Romance has changed a wee little bit.How much cringe shall we find? Plenty!Other oddities? Mainstream includes YA and Chick Lit. Contemporary includes New Reality. Regency in Format includes Corinthians! And we’re trying to understand a character who wants to “dim the pain of turning 30.” It’s a ride, as usual.Side trips include Sea Breeze, Stridex, and St Ives Medicated Apricot Scrub.TW: for

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52:47

608. Women as Shields and Scapegoats: Talking Kate...

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/03/29

Mel Blue wasmy guest when we discussedSpare– which has become one of my most listened-to episodes – so I asked her back to talk about the narratives of PR, why the weird stories around Kate Middleton grabbed attention worldwide, and why so many people were and are paying attention.On one level it’s a story that originated in gossip about rich and powerful people in an archaic power structure being weird. But it’s also a story of misinformation, propaganda, and a complicit media system, and we deal

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55:41

604. Dessert Projects, Romantasy, and Whimsy with...

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/03/01

Katee Robert joins me to talk about her many releases this year, about marketing through Kickstarter and direct-to-reader options like Patreon, and about the foundational books in fantasy and romance that got her started.We also talk about current issues, like Findaway Voices and Spotify’s changes to the terms of service for authors.You can find Katee Robert on her website, KateeRobert.com.You can also check out her Patreon.We also mentionedModern PostcardBonkers RomanceThe Bonkers Romance

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1:02:51

603. Romantic Times Rewind: April 2006 Ads and Features!

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/02/23

We’re traveling back to April 2006 in this month’s RT Rewind!We discuss the evolving cover art for the Immortals After Dark series and style changes in illustrated covers. We also talk aboutWell water adventuresAuthor photo? MUST be leaningA contest made of author prom photosMany predecessors to GoodReadsA book from 1991, promoted in 2006, made into a movie in 2022.And a FULL PAGE of Mr. Romance.When I start talking aboutRedeeming Love, massive trigger warning and content warning, just a giant pile

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43:23

602. Foundations of Fantasy Romance with Jennifer L....

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/02/16

Jennifer L. Armentrout joins me to talk about the books she considers the foundation of her fantasy romance reading, and what classical historical romances she adores. Her newest book,Visions of Flesh and Bloodis out next week, so we’re looking forward, and back – and way, way back in the past.We talk about a series she’s paused, and why, and what it means to update a book that doesn’t ‘age well.’What fantasy or historical romances were foundational reading for you? I’d love to know which are your

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1:08:24

601. Romantic Times Rewind: April 2006 Reviews!

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/02/09

We’re traveling back to April 2006 in this month’s RT Rewind! We take a look at the reviews in this issue and we’ve got some one-star reviews, and curiously paranormal is part of contemporary? It’s weird.Things I initially pronounce wrong: demesneTW/CW: mention of suicide in book reviews, plus snakes and rat infestations.Link to visual aids!...Music: purple-planet.comCoupon! LUME: New customers get $5 off Lume’s Starter Pack with our exclusive code. Use code SARAH30 at LumeDeodorant.com.Support for

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1:09:32

600. Life is Too Short to Have Sex You Don’t Like,...

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/02/02

It's our 600th episode!! Emily Nagoski is back to talk about her new book Come Together: The Science (and Art!) of Creating Lasting Sexual Connections.We talk about the genesis for this book, which is in part that writing a book is stressful and hard, and while writing Come As You Are, Emily noticed that her own interest in sex was missing. By diving headlong into all the research, she realized that people who sustain lasting sexual connections have a few major things in common, which is what this

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47:36

599. Romantic Times Rewind: December 2015 Ads and...

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/01/26

We’re traveling back to December 2015 in this month’s RT Rewind, and we're taking a look at the ads and features in this issue!We’ve got LONG series from Elizabeth Hoyt, Kresley Cole, and Shannon Stacey, plus SWAT team shifters, Navy SEAL Highlanders, and some memories, some not so great, of the 2016 RT convention in Vegas…at the Rio.And then! We have a supplement that only appears in the digital editions of RT at the time: the Indie/Hybrid News & Reviews Supplement. It’s a wild ride.Don't miss the

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598. Historical Romances for Horse Girls with Mimi...

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/01/19

Mimi Matthews returns to the show to talk about her latest novel, The Lily of Ludgate Hill, which is the third book in her Belles of London series. Among the major themes of this book? PINING. SO MUCH PINING. Which I love.But this is also a book about grief: characters are pining for what was as much as other characters are pining for what could be. So we talk about grief, loss, hope, and about adapting to massive upheaval - and about The Gilded Age television show.CW: We talk a lot about grief,

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1:25:37

597. Romantic Times Rewind: December 2015 Reviews

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/01/12

We’re traveling back to December 2015 in this month’s RT Rewind!We take a look at the reviews in this issue and along the way talk about audiobook series, historical romance, Jesus by Volume, and the ever-so-small range of grades in each genre. We also take a side trip into JR Ward’s Black Dagger Brotherhood series.You can find thevisual aids for this episode right here!You can find all the Romantic Times Rewind episodes, show notes, and visual aids atRTRewind.com!We also mentionedmy review ofLover

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596. Books, Wishes, and Extremely Good Jokes with...

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2024/01/05

Our final holiday wishes episode - thank you to everyone who makes these episodes such a treat. It’s an honor to connect with all of you!This week, Sneezy, Sandra, Tiffany, Lisa and Shana share recommendations, wishes, and terrible jokes. CW: we start off and end with some talk about anxiety brain gremlins, so FYI.Thank you again for making these episodes so fun! Happy New Year!We also mentioned:Baked by the Baroness (Tapas)Roni Loren's NewsletterTODY AppLibrary Extensionfor ChromeEpisode 342

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36:25

595. Holiday Wishes from Amanda, GarlicKnitter,...

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2023/12/29

We've got books, wishes, and wonderful jokes from Amanda, GarlicKnitter, Alanna, and Claudia! We’re traveling around the world with this episode! We’ve got many, many books to tell you about, and also wishes for cozy light and joy.Music: purple-planet.com Join our Patreon for complete mayhem, shenanigans, and more! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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594. Holiday Wishes and Recs from Verity, Elyse,...

Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast ·

2023/12/22

More holiday wishes, book recs, TV recs, and bad jokes, with you as my guests!This week, I’m joined by Verity, Elyse, Carrie, and Rich, aka Mr. Elyse, and we talk about So Much Entertainment! Verity and I chat about books, tv, and writing - so if you’re looking for some British tv shows, you’re in a lot of luck. We do start with some critique of the early 2000s language about women, bodies, body shaming, and anti-fat bias.Then I chat with Elyse and Carrie, who review for SBTB, and maybe they liked

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