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Behind the Wings

Wings Over the Rockies Air & Space Museum™

Wings Over the Rockies Air & Space Museum has a podcast! Based on our hit YouTube and PBS series of the same name, the Behind the Wings podcast will cover everything from aviation history to the future of space exploration with thought leaders and experts in the industry. This one"s going to be cool!

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All Episodes

40:50

Ejecting from the B-1 Lancer - Episode 58

Behind the Wings ·

2025/07/14

Retired Pilot Maj. Gen. Garrett “Sack” Harencak and Weapons Systems Officer Lt. Col. Tony “Voodoo” Eret share what it was like to fly together in the Rockwell B-1 Lancer.In this episode, they take us inside the “Bone”, a supersonic, variable-sweep wing bomber originally designed for low-level nuclear strikes and later transformed into a precision conventional strike aircraft. They discuss nuclear alert procedures, low-level mountain missions using terrain-following radar, and a first-hand

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36:17

How the F-111 Revolutionized Aircraft Capabilities -...

Behind the Wings ·

2025/06/30

Retired F-111 Pilot Lt. Col. Kevin “Too Kool” Kuhlmann explains how the General Dynamics F-111 could perform almost any role in the air battlefield, as a fighter, bomber, and even low-level attack aircraft.In this episode, Kevin discusses maintaining weapon systems on the F-106 and F-4, flying the Aardvark, and the thrill of lighting the afterburner during fuel dumps. With groundbreaking technology for its time, like terrain-following radar, variable-sweep wings, and an ejection capsule,

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50:05

Surviving Extreme Isolation in Space - Episode 56

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2025/06/16

Social Scientist Alires Almon explains why the human element is critical to mission success during long-duration spaceflights.In this episode, Alires discusses the impacts of sending people to the Moon and beyond, how to maintain their mental health, and the ethics of extended space missions. With challenges like extreme isolation, communication delays, and living within the confines of the spacecraft, taking care of an astronaut’s overall wellness will be no easy task. There is a lot to

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38:18

Spying From 70,000 Feet - Episode 55

Behind the Wings ·

2025/06/02

Retired Lt. Col. Josh Cadice shares his story of going to the edge of space in one of the most iconic spy planes ever built.In this episode, Josh discusses flying the KC-135, wearing the pressure suit, piloting the mysterious U-2 at 70,000 feet, and its aerial reconnaissance capabilities. From Cold War origins to modern missions, this aircraft’s legacy is as fascinating as it is classified. This one is going to be cool! Resources:U-2 Air Force Fact Sheet KC-135 Air Force Fact

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37:33

3,113 Days as a Vietnam POW - Episode 54

Behind the Wings ·

2025/05/19

Retired Navy Commander Everett Alvarez Jr. shares his story of surviving the Hỏa Lò Prison as one of the longest-held prisoners of war in U.S. history.In this episode, Everett discusses flying the A-4 Skyhawk, being shot down in Vietnam, enduring harsh conditions and torture, and reacclimating to life back home after Operation Homecoming. Throughout his journey, Everett and fellow captives held onto the will to live when all else was stripped away. There is a lot to learn!Resources:"Code of

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33:11

Cleared for Chaos - Episode 53

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2025/05/05

Air Boss Kellie Hudson tells us how she balances spectacle and safety while controlling intense air show skies.In this episode, Kellie discusses her path from air traffic controller to air boss, managing the airspace over AirVenture Oshkosh, and ramp bossing the Super Bowl. From coordinating warbirds and jet teams to managing emergencies on the flight line, she shares what it takes to keep the skies and ground running smoothly. This one is going to be cool! Resources:Kellie Hudson's

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37:31

The Pilot Changing Hollywood Filmmaking - Episode 52

Behind the Wings ·

2025/04/21

Aerial Coordinator and Stunt Pilot Kevin “K2” LaRosa shares how he brought some of the most complex aviation movie scenes to life.In this episode, Kevin discusses designing and flying the modified L-39 CineJet, filming iconic movies like "Top Gun: Maverick" and "Devotion", and training A-list Hollywood actors. If you’ve seen aerial cinematography on the big screen lately, it’s likely Kevin had a hand in it. Be sure to tune in because there's an exclusive announcement this episode! This one

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43:57

The First Woman Thunderbirds Pilot - Episode 51

Behind the Wings ·

2025/04/07

Retired F-15 and F-16 fighter pilot Nicole Malachowski tells us about flying 18 inches off the wings of high-speed jets as a U.S. Air Force Thunderbird.Welcome to Season 6 of the Behind the Wings podcast! In this episode, Nicole takes us through her groundbreaking journey as the first woman to become a Thunderbird pilot. She discusses her combat missions, flying in airshows, her WASP connection, and how a tick-borne illness changed her life forever. There is a lot to learn!Resources:Nicole

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0:57

Behind the Wings Season 6 Trailer

Behind the Wings ·

2025/03/31

The Behind the Wings podcast is back with Season 6 and 10 new episodes! Hear stories from one of the longest interned Vietnam POWs, Everett Alvarez Jr., controlling the chaotic skies above air shows with Air Boss Kellie Hudson, and the making of Top Gun: Maverick and Devotion with Aerial Cinematographer and Stunt Pilot Kevin "K2" LaRosa. We've got some incredible stories and guests coming up!New episodes come out every other Monday, starting next week with the first woman Thunderbird pilot,

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30:47

Designing 400 Air and Spacecraft - Episode 50

Behind the Wings ·

2025/02/10

Legendary aerospace engineer Burt Rutan shares untold stories behind some of the most unique air and spacecraft ever built.In this episode, Burt reflects on a lifetime of aerospace innovation — from working as a U.S. Air Force flight test engineer to breaking records with his homebuilt aircraft. He also discusses stall testing the F-4, Bede Aircraft, the world’s largest airplane, and the Voyager and GlobalFlyer around-the-world flights. This one is going to be cool!Episode 50 marks the end

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34:26

Spacewalking for 8 Hours - Episode 49

Behind the Wings ·

2025/01/27

Retired NASA Astronaut Lieutenant General Susan Helms reflects on her 211 days in space and life onboard a young International Space Station.In this episode, Susan takes us through her groundbreaking journey as the first active-duty woman officer to become a NASA astronaut. She discusses attending the United States Air Force Academy, flight testing fighter jets, her five space missions, and a record-breaking spacewalk. This one is going to be cool!Key Takeaways:Susan's childhood dream was

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24:47

Episode 48 - Discovering the First Pulsar

Behind the Wings ·

2025/01/13

Astrophysicist and professor, Dame Jocelyn Bell Burnell reflects on how she helped change astronomy forever.In this episode, learn more about how a peculiar signal from space led Jocelyn to a groundbreaking discovery. She discusses her aerospace journey, building a radio telescope, discovering pulsars, and the 1974 Nobel Prize controversy. This one is going to be cool!Key Takeaways:At the time, women were not often permitted to study science fields in school. Her parents protested this rule

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23:32

Episode 47 - AI's Military Future with the USAF...

Behind the Wings ·

2024/12/30

Secretary of the United States Air Force Frank Kendall discusses AI's impact on modern air warfare.In this episode, we're switching things up and going to the Pentagon to bring you a special in-depth conversation on artificial intelligence in military aviation. Secretary Kendall discusses AI’s evolving role in U.S. air power, collaborative combat aircraft, technology breakthroughs, and ethical concerns. This one is going to be cool!Key Takeaways:Secretary Kendall discusses the history of AI

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28:07

Episode 46 - The D-Day Air Campaign

Behind the Wings ·

2024/12/16

National Museum of WWII Aviation Curator Gene Pfeffer discusses why winning the air war was pivotal to D-Day's success.In this episode, we’ll dive into the planning and execution of air operations, the aircraft that supported the massive assault, the continued aerial support for troops after Operation Overlord, and its lasting legacy and impact on aviation. June 6, 2024, marked the 80th anniversary of D-Day and gave us the opportunity to learn more about one of the most important battles of

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31:27

Episode 45 - From the Air Force to Miss America

Behind the Wings ·

2024/12/02

Miss America 2024, Madison Marsh, discusses the crossroads of pageantry and the military.In this episode, Madi takes us through her groundbreaking journey as the first active-duty officer to earn the Miss America title. She shares insights into her pilot training, attending the United States Air Force Academy, cancer research, starting a non-profit, and how a military background has influenced her career. This one is going to be cool!Key Takeaways:Madi has always been fascinated by science

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17:06

Miniseries Episode 4 - The Making of Hypersonic...

Behind the Wings ·

2024/11/21

How the world's largest aircraft, Stratolaunch Roc, is paving the way for repeatable hypersonic testing.Welcome to the final part of our bonus podcast miniseries on the making of Behind the Wings PBS Season 6! In this episode, Director Cray Novick and Host Tracy LaTourrette discuss behind-the-scenes stories while filming with Stratolaunch at the Mojave Air and Space Port. Join us as we talk about the history of hypersonics, building the Stratolaunch Roc, the Talon-A test vehicle, the Hadley

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13:08

Miniseries Episode 3 - The Making of The Super Guppy

Behind the Wings ·

2024/11/14

How a seemingly impossible idea helped America win the space race.Welcome to part 3 of our 4-part bonus podcast miniseries on the making of Behind the Wings PBS Season 6! In this episode, Director Cray Novick and Host Tracy LaTourrette discuss behind-the-scenes stories while filming the legendary Super Guppy in El Paso, Texas. Join us as we talk about the space race, building the Super Guppy, our favorite stories from filming, the similarities this aircraft has with Frankenstein, and

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14:56

Miniseries Episode 2 - The Making of Collaborative...

Behind the Wings ·

2024/11/07

The ethics of deploying AI in Collaborative Combat Aircraft (CCA), are weighed against the risks of falling behind technologically. Welcome to part 2 of our 4-part bonus podcast miniseries on the making of Behind the Wings PBS Season 6! In this episode, Director Cray Novick and Host Tracy LaTourrette continue their conversation about AI in the military, with a specific focus on AI-piloted aircraft. Join us as we talk about how CCAs could change the air battlefield, the ethics of AI in

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14:32

Miniseries Episode 1 - The Making of AI in Military...

Behind the Wings ·

2024/10/31

How testing and simulations advance AI pilot agents from the lab to the field.Welcome to part 1 of our 4-part bonus podcast miniseries on the making of Behind the Wings PBS Season 6! In this episode, Director Cray Novick and Host Tracy LaTourrette discuss behind-the-scenes stories while filming around the U.S. to learn more about AI in military aviation. Join us as we discuss the history of AI, the AI arms race, flying simulators, our favorite stories from filming, and being at the

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1:01

Miniseries Trailer | The Making of Behind the Wings...

Behind the Wings ·

2024/10/24

We are excited to announce our special four-part miniseries featuring stories from the making of our newest Behind the Wings PBS season! Director Cray Novick and Host Tracy LaTourrette discuss AI in Military Aviation, Collaborative Combat Aircraft, The Super Guppy, and Hypersonic Flight Testing. Join us to hear inside tales you won't find anywhere else. This is going to be cool!New episodes come out every Thursday, starting October 31. Also, check out the new season on PBS or at our YouTube

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