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The Wrong Cat Died

Broadway Podcast Network

Grizabella was the wrong cat to die. After seeing CATS the Musical for the first time in July of 2016, podcast host Mike Abrams was filled with a whirlwind of emotions. He was amused, confused, and a little angry. Almost exactly three years later when the 2019 CATS movie trailer came out, Mike had enough. It was time to speak his truth – Grizabella was the wrong Cat to Die at the Jellicle Ball. In this podcast, Mike interviews CATS cast members, CATS superfans, CATS haters, and explores the

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48:02

Ep208 - Sarah Bowden, Sillabub in Australian Circus...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2025/05/13

" Chrissie Cartwright looked at me and she’s like ‘you've gotta like see the mouse, follow the mouse, pounce on the mouse, chase the mouse again.’ And I was like, wait, wait, wait. Are we cats?" This episode features Sarah Bowden who performed as Sillabub in the Australian Circus Tent Tour production of CATS and is currently performing in the ensemble in Smash on Broadway. Hear Sarah share tales from her early career, including her intriguing audition stories and experiences touring with CATS in

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Ep207 - Victor Carrillo Tracey, Munkustrap in 2017...

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2025/05/06

"I tried to imbue as much of me as an older brother, as a leader among friends, in my role in the pack." This episode features Victor Carrillo Tracey who performed as Munkustrap in the 2017 STAR Theatre regional production of CATS and is currently performing as a swing in The Outsiders on Broadway. Hear Victor Carrillo share his family connection into CATS, how it was a huge part of his introduction to professional dance, and some fun stories that could only happen at a regional theater. Plus,

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Ep206 - Elise O'Connell, Grizabella on Royal...

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2025/04/22

"My favorite word that Grizabella has is ‘indomitable.’ She’s been beaten down and is not afraid to continue to stand back up." This episode features Elise O'Connell who is currently Grizabella on the Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Oasis of the Seas productions of CATS. Hear Elise share she performed the T. S. Eliot poems in high school, her introduction to CATS, and some fun stories from the boat. Plus, Elise shares the paragraph the boat shares with the audience before the show that tries to

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Ep205 - Jesse Chidera, Rum Tum Tugger on 2024...

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2025/04/15

" A lot of it was me trying to find a middle point. Most nights I would just pick up someone and have a little dance to them, make the crowd clap for them. Sometimes if there was a kid in the audience, I would give them a little high five. My favorite one was anytime if there was an empty seat in the front row. I would go sit down on that seat and just watch." This episode features Jesse Chidera who played the Rum Tum Tugger on the most recent International Tour of CATS which mostly performed in

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Ep204 - Robert Bannon, Host of The Roundtable

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2025/04/08

" I conned my way into the Winter Garden on the back of my parents' wedding anniversary so that I got to experience CATS in person." This episode features Robert Bannon who is the host of The Roundtable which is another Broadway Podcast Network show. Hear how Robert conned his way into seeing CATS for the first time, his thoughts on all productions including the 2019 movie and the PAC Cats: "The Jellicle Ball," and how he acquired pieces of the original CATS set. Plus, Robert does a deep dive into

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Ep203 - Lex Page Miller, Electra in 2015 Stage Left...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2025/03/25

"My name is Alexis. Electra sounds a lot like Alexis. Is that why I got this part?" This episode features Lex Miller who performed as Electra in 2015 Stage Left Children's Theater production CATS. Hear Lex share the craziness of doing the show at such a young age, how their production did the full show for multiple weekends, and some fun things she learned long about the characters long after the production. Plus, Lex shares a story about her cast having to stay on stage during intermissions

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Ep202 - Lucas Thompson, Coricopat on US National Tour 5

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2025/03/18

" I definitely think what is appealing about swinging is that it really helps keep the show feeling fresh for you." This episode features Lucas Thompson who was a swing and Coricopat on the US National Tour 5 of CATS and sang in the CATS Chorus in the 2016 Revival. Hear Lucas share how he ended up in the various productions, how he approached covering so many cats as a swing, and why Grizabella is his Jellicle choice. Plus, Lucas and Mike share a moment discussing CATS in football to celebrate their

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58:45

Ep201 - Pepe Muñoz, Admetus in Madrid & Santiago in...

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2025/03/11

"This can be the gift that keeps on giving. Jellicles Forever. I'm going to be a Jellicle forever. And I am." This episode features Pepe Muñoz who was in six different productions of CATS starting as Admetus in Madrid in 2003 and is currently performing as Santiago in Moulin Rouge The Musical on Broadway. Hear Pepe share how CATS changed his professional life, what it was like performing the show in three different languages, and some fun stories from performing CATS all over the world. Plus, Pepe

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59:30

Ep200 - Liz Callaway, Grizabella in Original Broadway...

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2025/02/25

"Because they’re going to meet me there. They’re all going to eventually meet me there. I’m just first." This episode features Liz Callaway who performed as Grizabella in the original Broadway production of CATS and is one of the longest running Grizabellas from the run. Hear Liz discuss her introduction to CATS, her Grizabella backstory, what it's like to sing Memory all over the world in concerts, and why she thinks Grizabella deserves to be the Jellicle choice. Plus, Liz shares her opening number

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62:52

LIVE @ BroadwayCon with The Cast and Creative of Cats...

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2025/02/18

To celebrate the 10th anniversary of BroadwayCon, we hosted a panel with the cast and creative of Cats “The Jellicle Ball” discussing their historic production. We were joined by director Bill Rauch along with Sydney James Harcourt, Dudney Joseph Jr., and Robert “Silk” Mason from the cast. About the Production: Cats: “The Jellicle Ball” is a radical reimagining of Andrew Lloyd Webber’s iconic musical based on T. S. Eliot’s Old Possum’s Book of Practical Cats, inspired by the Ballroom culture that

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47:22

From The Vault: Melody Rose, Tantomile on National...

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2025/02/11

From The Vault: Originally released on July 29, 2021, this was Episode 53 with Melody Rose who was Tantomile on the US National Tour 6 of CATS."I had a little plush Mistoffelees when I was younger." This episode features Melody Rose who played Tantomile in the most recent CATS National Tour. Hear Melody discuss how she was a CATS fanatic growing up, share the backstory of the Twins, and gives her defense for why Gus should be the Jellicle choice. Plus, Melody humors me by discussing her thoughts

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54:35

Ep199 - Zach Raffio, Founder of The Broadway Beat

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2025/01/28

"By the end of her spiel, I was like, I still have no idea what this show is about." This episode features Zach Raffio who is the founder of a theater satire website called The Broadway Beat. Hear Zach share his experience with CATS junior, how he created The Broadway Beat, and some good advice for aspiring satire writers. Plus, Zach and Mike pick which NBA player would be which CATS character. Check out Zach on Social Media: @zachraffio Check out the Broadway Beat on Social Media:

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44:07

Ep198 - Chuck & Mickey Lubeck, Swings on US National...

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2025/01/14

"If we went on together, they would announce that the ‘Flying Lubecks’ were on." This episode features Chuck and Mickey Lubeck who were swings and dance captains on the US National Tour 4 of CATS for many years. Hear about how they met before tour, grew their family on tour, and all kinds of fun memories from their time in CATS. Plus, there is a fun connection with their son who also performed in CATS with previous guests of the podcast.Check out Mickey's Website: onwiththeshow.biz Produced

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From The Vault: Colin Cunliffe, Skimbleshanks in the...

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2025/01/07

From The Vault: Originally released on March 9, 2021, this was Episode 37 with Colin Cunliffe who was Skimbleshanks in the 2016 Broadway Revival of CATS."We have a lot to talk about Mike because I listened to your Skimble..." This episode features Colin Cunliffe who played Skimbleshanks in the 2016 Broadway revival. Hear Colin break down all of the things I got wrong in Episode 11 about Skimbleshanks and his experience with the musical. Plus, hear Colin give the first Heaviside argument for

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27:45

From The Vault: Christopher Gurr, Gus in the 2016...

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2024/12/24

From The Vault: Originally released on November 7, 2019, this was Episode 8 with Christopher Gurr who was Gus in the 2016 Broadway Revival of CATS. This episode features Christopher Gurr who played Gus and Bustopher Jones during the 2016 Broadway revival. Christopher and Mike discuss the musical, fan theories, and who Christopher thinks is more worthy to die than Grizabella. They also go over why parents should NOT bring children to the show. Check out Christopher on Instagram:

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39:35

Ep197 - Jenny Mollet, Jellylorum in PAC's CATS: "The...

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2024/12/17

"I see everyone has stars in that room. No one is going to dim your light except for you. You can’t let anyone dim your light." We couldn't get enough of the PAC production so this episode is with Jenny Mollet who was Jellylorum in Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball." Jenny shares her experience with the workshop of CATS before joining the cast on stage, some fun Jellylorum relationships including a romance with Demeter, and why Gus is her

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Ep196 - Jennifer Ashley Tepper, Author of Women...

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2024/12/10

"I took my family to go see the CATS movie right before Covid. They all said to me ‘that’s going to be the last movie we ever see’ and it’s become a long running family joke." This episode features Jennifer Ashley Tepper who an acclaimed theatre historian, author, and producer, the Creative and Programming Director at 54 Below and the author of “Women Writing Musicals: The Legacy that the History Books Left Out.” Hear Jennifer share some of the history of CATS the musical, how she tackled writing a

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Ep195 - Kevin Zak, Swing on US National Tour 5

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/12/03

"Sometimes I look back and I’m like I don’t think I was good enough to do CATS. But I did it. And I was a swing and being a swing on a non-equity tour is kind of like being a traveling mascot people spit on a lot. It was an interesting experience." This episode features Kevin Zak who was a swing on the US National Tour 5 of CATS. Hear Kevin share some incredible stories from his tour including games they used to play, his thoughts on Munkustrap kicking off the show, and how CATS will always be a

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71:12

From The Vault: Claire Camp, Dance Captain & Swing in...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/11/26

From The Vault: Originally released on June 22, 2021, this was Episode 52 with Claire Camp who was a Dance Captain & Swing in the 2016 Broadway Revival of CATS."This show will change your life if you let it." This episode features Claire Camp who was the dance captain and a swing in the 2016 Broadway revival. Hear Claire explain her deep love for the show, share how she tells her friends which cat she thinks they are, and discuss her regional productions of CATS prior to Broadway. Plus, Claire

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Ep194 - Ana Villafañe, Grizabella in Our Lady of...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/11/19

"When the auditions came, I’m a 17 year old girl so I wanted to be a sexy cat. I wanted to be Rum Tum Tugger and since it was all girls you could have. That was my dream. But I got cast as Grizabella." This episode features Ana Villafañe who performed as Grizabella in her all girls Catholic high school production of CATS in Miami. Hear Ana share how she became obsessed with the musical, the craziness of performing CATS at the age of 17, and her perspective on why Grizabella is her Jellicle choice

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