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Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn

The latest machine learning, A.I., and data career topics from across both academia and industry are brought to you by host Dr. Jon Krohn on the Super Data Science Podcast. As the quantity of data on our planet doubles every couple of years and with this trend set to continue for decades to come, there"s an unprecedented opportunity for you to make a meaningful impact in your lifetime. In conversation with the biggest names in the data science industry, Jon cuts through hype to fuel that

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920: In Case You Missed It in August 2025

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/09/05

This month’s episode of In Case You Missed It gives us reasons to be cautiously optimistic about the future of large language models (LLMs), with guests discussing what to do about recent reports that found AI agents blackmailed human users when threatened, the importance of post-training LLMs, and the training we have available for data and AI engineers to create robust, secure, and useful AI. Jon Krohn includes clips from his interviews with Akshay Agrawal (Episode 911), Julien Launay (Episode

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89:51

919: Hopes and Fears of AGI, with All-Time...

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/09/02

PyTorch, AGI, and the future of alignment research: Aurélien Géron joins Jon Krohn in this live interview to talk about the fourth edition of his bestselling Hands-On Machine Learning as well as what superintelligence makes him hopeful for, as well as what concerns him about machines surpassing human intelligence. This episode is brought to you by Gurobi and by the Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA⁠ Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/919⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring

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918: Multi-Agent Systems with CrewAI

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/08/29

In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn introduces listeners to CrewAI, an open-source Python framework that can create and manage multi-agent teams. The clue is in the title: CrewAI assembles specialized agents into single “crews” that achieve complex goals between them. CrewAI’s agent teams can also learn and iterate, meaning that after the crew has achieved its goals for the first time, they can refine and tailor their approach to future goals. Additional materials:

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75:33

917: 8 Steps to Becoming an AI Engineer, with Kirill...

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/08/26

Founder of SuperDataScience, Kirill Eremenko, talks to Jon Krohn about how he found the best tools and approaches to help launch his 8-week AI engineering bootcamp. He breaks down the topics participants cover each week, and he also shares his tips with listeners who might want to start their own tech bootcamp or sign up for SuperDataScience’s September 2025 cohort. This episode is brought to you by the Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA and by ODSC, the Open Data Science Conference Additional

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9:40

916: The 5 Key GPT-5 Takeaways

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/08/22

GPT-5 has just been released, but with not very much fanfare. In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn asks if GPT-5 deserves the community’s underwhelmed response to its release. He outlines five features of the model and explains why people might be feeling less than enthusiastic in the broader context of LLM development. Which LLMs are leading the way, and which are still playing the game of catch-up?Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/916⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a

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69:33

915: How to Jailbreak LLMs (and How to Prevent It),...

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/08/19

Tech leader, investor, and Generationship cofounder Michelle Yi talks to Jon Krohn about finding ways to trust and secure AI systems, the methods that hackers use to jailbreak code, and what users can do to build their own trustworthy AI systems. Learn all about “red teaming” and how tech teams can handle other key technical terms like data poisoning, prompt stealing, jailbreaking and slop squatting. This episode is brought to you by ⁠Trainium2, the latest AI chip from AWS⁠ and by the ⁠Dell AI

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25:52

914: Data Lakes 101 (and Why They’re Key for AI...

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/08/15

In this Five-Minute Friday, Cofounder and CTO of lakeFS Oz Katz talks to Jon Krohn about data warehouses, data lakes, and how companies can handle increasingly complex data infrastructures and formats. Hear about lakeFS’s collaboration with Legofest, lakeFS’s approach to helping users collaborate on data lakes, and how to overcome the challenges of working with multimodal data.Additional materials: ⁠www.superdatascience.com/914⁠ This episode is brought to you by the ⁠Dell AI Factory with

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75:16

913: LLM Pre-Training and Post-Training 101, with...

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/08/12

Julien Launay launched Adaptive to give data science teams in business enterprises their “RLOps tooling” to make reinforcement learning easier. Talking to Jon Krohn, Julien says, “Most of our users are data scientists who write Python codes to interface with the system”. Adaptive is also able to work with companies without data science teams, collaborating with partners like Deloitte to add the necessary personnel. Julien is currently working on making his platform more widely

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912: In Case You Missed It in July 2025

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/08/08

In this episode of In Case You Missed It, we look back on five great interview episodes from July. Hear from Lilith Bat-Leah (Episode 901), Sinan Ozdemir (Episode 903), Sebastian Gehrmann (Episode 905), Zohar Bronfman (Episode 907) and Robert Ness (Episode 909). They’ll tell you why data-centric machine learning is so important across disciplines, starting with law, and how we can use AI benchmarks and “red teaming” to refine our search for the best AI models. Additional materials:

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58:20

911: The Future of Python Notebooks is Here, with...

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/08/05

Reproducibility, Python notebooks, and data science communities: Software developer Akshay Agrawal speaks to Jon Krohn about Marimo, the next-generation computational notebook for Python, how he built and fostered a thriving community around the product, and what makes this notebook so versatile and accessible for users. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/911⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you by ⁠Trainium2, the latest AI chip from AWS ⁠and by the ⁠Dell AI Factory with

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10:24

910: AI is Disrupting Journalism: The Good, The Bad...

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/08/01

In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn looks into AI’s disruption of the journalism industry and how it has fundamentally reshaped news production. Multiple news outlets’ suing of ChatGPT over its use of copyrighted materials may have taken the most headlines to date, but this isn’t to say news media is rebuffing AI entirely. On the contrary, several outlets have launched summarization and analysis tools for both internal and external use, such as The New York Times’s Echo and The Washington Post’s

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82:27

909: Causal AI, with Dr. Robert Usazuwa Ness

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/07/29

Researcher at Microsoft Robert Usazuwa Ness talks to Jon Krohn about how to achieve causality in AI with correlation-based learning, the right libraries, and handling statistical inference. When dealing with causal AI, Robert notes how important it is to keep aware of variables in the data that may mislead us and force inaccurate assumptions. Not all variables will be useful. It is essential, then, that any assumptions are grounded in a deeper understanding of how the data were gathered, and not

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8:50

908: AI Agents Blackmail Humans 96% of the Time...

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/07/25

The moral and ethical implications of letting AI take the wheel in business, as revealed by Anthropic: Jon Krohn looks into Anthropic’s latest research on how to use and deploy LLMs safely, specifically in business environments. The team designed scenarios to test the behavior of AI agents when given a goal and a set of obstacles to reach it. Those obstacles included 1) threats to the AI’s continued operation, and 2) conflict between the AI’s goals and the goals of the company. Hear Jon break down

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81:16

907: Neuroscience, AI and the Limitations of LLMs,...

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/07/22

“Intelligence has many forms,” says Zohar Bronfman, who speaks with Jon Krohn about the fascinating intersection between computational neuroscience and philosophy, and how it has brought him closer to understanding what is necessary to develop human-like intelligence in machines, as well as his motivations for launching Pecan AI and why predictive models outstrip generative models in business. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/907⁠⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you⁠⁠⁠ by,

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29:29

906: How Prof. Jason Corso Solved Computer Vision’s...

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/07/18

Jason Corso speaks to Jon Krohn in this Five-Minute Friday all about Voxel51’s latest tool, Verified Auto-Labelling, and the company’s incredible success in developing popular tools for computer vision.Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/906⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.

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57:49

905: Why RAG Makes LLMs Less Safe (And How to Fix...

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/07/15

RAG LLMs are not safer: Sebastian Gehrmann speaks to Jon Krohn about his latest research into how retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) actually makes LLMs less safe, the three ‘H’s for gauging the effectivity and value of a RAG, and the custom guardrails and procedures we need to use to ensure our RAG is fit-for-purpose and secure. This is a great episode for anyone who wants to know how to work with RAG in the context of LLMs, as you’ll hear how to select the best model for purpose, useful

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904: A.I. is Disrupting the Entire Advertising Industry

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/07/11

In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn reveals how AI is taking on the glitzy world of advertising. Bold claims from Meta and OpenAI contend that users will soon be able to plug in what they want and have AI churn out an ad campaign for little to no cost are shaking the advertising industry to its core. The fact that the four biggest sellers of ads (Google, Meta, Amazon, and ByteDance) are digital companies and accounted for over half of the global market in 2024 adds salt to the wound. Hear the

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903: LLM Benchmarks Are Lying to You (And What to Do...

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/07/08

Has AI benchmarking reached its limit, and what do we have to fill this gap? Sinan Ozdemir speaks to Jon Krohn about the lack of transparency in training data and the necessity of human-led quality assurance to detect AI hallucinations, when and why to be skeptical of AI benchmarks, and the future of benchmarking agentic and multimodal models.Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/903⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you by Trainium2, the latest AI chip from AWS, by ⁠⁠Adverity,

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902: In Case You Missed It in June 2025

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/07/04

In this episode of “In Case You Missed It”, Jon recaps his June interviews on The SuperDataScience Podcast. Hear from Diane Hare, Avery Smith, Kirill Eremenko, and Shaun Johnson as they talk about the best portfolios for AI practitioners, how to stand out in a saturated candidate market for AI roles, how to tell when an AI startup is going places, and ways to lead AI change in business.Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/902 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast

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901: Automating Legal Work with Data-Centric ML...

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn ·

2025/07/01

Senior Director of AI Labs for Epiq Lilith Bat-Leah speaks to Jon Krohn about the ways AI have disrupted the legal industry using LLMs and retrieval-augmented generation (RAG), as well as how the data-centric machine learning research movement (DMLR) is systematically improving data quality, and why that is so important. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/901⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you by the ⁠⁠Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA⁠⁠ and Adverity, the conversational analytics

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