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Sg2 Perspectives

Sg2 Perspectives brings together Sg2 experts and healthcare industry thought leaders to discuss popular Sg2 publications, key event takeaways and other strategic topics keeping health system leadership teams up at night. New episodes will be released every Wednesday. Contact your host, Trevor DaRin anytime at sg2perspectives@sg2.com

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19:33

The Forecast Behind Aging Demand

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/07/30

In this episode of Sg2 Perspectives, host Tori Richie is joined by Sg2 experts Joshua Aaker and Katherine Zentner to explore how demographic shifts, particularly an aging population, are shaping cardiovascular and neurosciences service line demand. Drawing on insights from the 2025 Impact of Change® forecast, the discussion highlights care stratification, team-based models, and new approaches to programmatic design that health systems are using to address growing utilization and acuity. The

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21:33

Unpacking OBBA’s Policy Shifts

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/07/23

Congress recently passed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBA), reshaping Medicaid eligibility, financing, and rural health care transformation. In this Sg2 Perspectives episode, host Trevor DaRin is joined by Vizient advocacy experts Darren Webb and Alexandria Icenhower, along with Sg2’s Ryota Terada, to decode OBBA’s key provisions—from new work requirements and payment changes to rural funding programs—and to explore the strategic implications for hospitals and health systems. Tune in for a

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16:33

Forecasting Consumer Care Trends

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/07/16

How will Amazon-style convenience and a shaky economy reshape physical therapy, orthopedics and post-acute care? Host Tori Richie talks with Sg2 experts Donnelle Jageman and Nikita Arora about the “Economy & Consumerism” impact factor from this year’s Impact of Change® Forecast. The trio unpacks the surge in at-home and direct-to-consumer PT/OT, the growing clout of price-sensitive patients, and why care orchestration can transform one therapy visit into years of loyalty.We are always excited

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20:03

Cell and Gene Therapy in Practice

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/07/09

In this episode of Sg2 Perspectives, Jayme Zage, PhD speaks with leaders from the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP), Katherine Helbig, MS, LCGC, AVP of Research Strategy and Accelerator Programs, and Dan Fields, JD, SVP and Chief Strategy Officer, about the evolving landscape of cell and gene therapy. They share compelling patient stories and outline the operational and strategic infrastructure needed to deliver these groundbreaking treatments. From CAR T-cell therapies to life-changing

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19:41

Differentiation That Delivers

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/07/02

In this episode of Sg2 Perspectives, Jayme Zage, PhD is joined by Sg2 Principals Rebecca Limestall and Brian Esser to explore what true differentiation means in today’s health care landscape. They dig into why many health systems struggle to stand out and how focusing on micro-level strategies, stakeholder priorities, and market dynamics can create sustainable competitive advantages. From rural access to innovation investments, the conversation covers where and how organizations can win in an

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15:53

Care Beyond the Hospital Walls

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/06/25

In this episode of Sg2 Perspectives, host Jayme Zage, PhD is joined by Sg2 experts Rachael Zirkelbach and Nikita Arora to explore the evolving dynamics of post-acute care and care-at-home strategies. From bifurcated health system readiness to workforce challenges and the surge in AI-enabled home care, the conversation dives deep into how organizations are navigating capacity constraints, policy shifts, and rising consumer expectations.We are always excited to get ideas and feedback from our

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17:36

Mindset Shift: Ambulatory First

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/06/18

Sg2 Senior Directors Tori Richie and Tony Guth join host Trevor DaRin to explore the “ambulatory first” mindset—where care delivery is driven by outpatient strategies rather than hospital-centric models. They unpack why legacy health systems have struggled to make meaningful progress, how rethinking organizational structures and capital allocation can help, and the initial steps that signal real transformation. These themes are further grounded in insights from new research, member experiences, and

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16:44

What’s Next for Physician Alignment

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/06/11

Sg2 Perspectives host Trevor DaRin is joined by colleagues Brian Esser and Ryota Terada for an in-depth discussion on physician alignment—a topic that remains as essential as ever in today’s health system landscape. The group dives into the evolution of alignment strategies, examining why employment has become the default model, what opportunities still exist within clinically integrated networks (CINs), and how the strategic use of equity can reshape engagement. Drawing from fresh research and

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20:02

Inside the 2025 Impact of Change® Forecast

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/06/04

In one of the most highly anticipated Sg2 Perspectives episodes of the year, host Trevor DaRin is joined by Tori Richie and Danni Park, the lead architects behind Sg2’s Impact of Change® Forecast. Together, they unpack the major themes and debates that shaped this year’s forecast spanning population shifts, policy uncertainties, breakthrough innovations, and evolving care models. From the aging population’s growing demand for health care to the future potential of GLP-1 drugs, site-neutrality

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19:10

The Road Ahead for Digital Health

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/05/28

In this episode of Sg2 Perspectives, host Jayme Zage, PhD is joined by Andrew Rebhan, Sg2’s digital health expert to explore whether innovation in digital health still exists beyond the dominant AI narrative. They discuss the current state and future of virtual care, the role of asynchronous monitoring, the resurgence of interest in ambient documentation, and how AI is reshaping data management in health care. The conversation balances optimism with realism about the systemic barriers that still

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17:15

Inside the AI Adoption Curve

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/05/21

In this episode, host Trevor DaRin is joined by Sam Fredin, Vizient’s Director of AI Strategy & Technology and Andrew Rebhan, Sg2’s digital health expert, to explore the current state of AI adoption across industries, with a focus on health care. Together, they unpack what’s hype vs. reality, how organizations are experimenting with AI tools, and why the most immediate impact may not be financial, but in improving workflows, empowering employees, and redefining what effective AI integration

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24:20

Health Care Partnerships That Go the Distance

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/05/14

Host Jayme Zage, PhD, kicks off The Wider View, an Sg2 Perspectives Podcast series focused on topics that are important to all types of organizations in the health care landscape. This episode explores strategic collaborations between health systems and their industry partners. Joined by Caroline Brown of CDB Strategy and Sg2’s Karl Karlsson, PhD, the conversation goes beyond transactional relationships to reveal how shared risk, aligned incentives, and long-term vision can drive meaningful change

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17:34

The Cardiovascular Surge: Managing Growth

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/05/07

Our host Tori Richie is joined by cardiovascular service line expert Josh Aaker, PhD to unpack the data and dynamics behind the growing pressure on heart care services. From rising inpatient volumes to workforce shortages, Josh shares strategic insights on managing capacity constraints, improving procedural efficiency, and preparing for the aging patient population.We are always excited to get ideas and feedback from our listeners. You can reach us at sg2perspectives@sg2.com, or visit the Sg2

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20:53

Behavioral Health Care Redefined

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/04/30

Our host Trevor DaRin is joined by Dr. Erick Macias and Matt Mindrup from SSM Health in St. Louis to explore the groundbreaking Behavioral Health Urgent Care model. Learn how this innovative care delivery approach is transforming mental health access by providing same-day, walk-in support for individuals in crisis—without the barriers of insurance or long waits. From patient stories to system-level impact, they share lessons learned, unexpected wins, and what's next for expanding this crucial model

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21:30

Redesigning the Emergency Department

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/04/23

Emergency departments are busier than ever—and facing serious strain. Hosts Jayme Zage, PhD and Tori Richie break down the return of ED volumes, the ongoing challenges with triage and boarding, and the creative, forward-thinking strategies health systems are using to turn the tide. From policy shifts to innovative fast-track models, this episode is packed with insights into navigating the future of emergency care.We are always excited to get ideas and feedback from our listeners. You can reach us

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17:10

Strategic Shifts in Primary Care

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/04/16

Primary care is evolving—fast. But instead of reinventing the wheel, health systems are accelerating existing strategies to meet today’s demands. In this episode, host Trevor DaRin is joined by Sg2 Director Hailey Mulliner to explore how organizations are rethinking their primary care models to better support both patients and providers. From workforce shifts and panel size expectations to AI tools like ambient listening, they unpack the trends shaping the future of care—and what leading systems are

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21:24

GLP-1 Update

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/04/09

Host Tori Richie brings together a group of Vizient and Sg2 experts to talk about the rapidly evolving GLP-1 landscape including Heather Pace is a senior clinical manager for ambulatory services for the Vizient Center of Pharmacy Practice Excellence, Stacy Lauderdale Associate VP of Evidence-Based Medicine for Vizient, and Emily Fitt a Consultant with Sg2 Intelligence.We are always excited to get ideas and feedback from our listeners. You can reach us at sg2perspectives@sg2.com, or visit the Sg2

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16:38

Aligning Service Lines for Growth

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/04/02

Our host Trevor DaRin is joined by Sg2 Associate Principal Justin Cassidy, PhD, to explore our latest research on advanced procedures—high-margin, strategically significant encounters critical to service line development. They discuss where these procedures are occurring, trends in inpatient versus outpatient growth, and how health systems can use this framework to inform strategic planning, access optimization, and workforce alignment across academic and community settings.We are always excited

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13:13

Designing for Better Decisions

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/03/26

How does organizational design influence performance and care consistency across a health system? In this episode, our host Jayme Zage, PhD, is joined by Erika Johnson, Victoria Beale, and Vern Herbener from the Vizient Research Institute about their latest study exploring decision-making structures in multi-hospital systems. The team shares surprising findings about centralization, stakeholder involvement, and alignment gaps between leaders. They also discuss how systems can rethink governance and

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16:55

Strategy in 2025

Sg2 Perspectives ·

2025/03/19

Our host Trevor DaRin is joined by Sg2 Principals Brian Esser and Rebecca Limestall as they share insights from their recent discussions with health systems, covering financial stability, strategic growth, and the evolving role of systemness. They also explore how organizations are shifting from reactive problem-solving to proactive transformation by challenging old assumptions, embracing change management, and preparing for the years ahead. We are always excited to get ideas and feedback from

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