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The Interline Podcast

Twice-weekly technology shows for fashion and beauty professionals.The Edit releases Tuesdays: a quickfire show analysing five headlines from across fashion and technology, in a conversational format designed to fit your commute. Hosted by Social Editor Grace Robinson.The interview show releases Thursdays: deep one-on-one debates with brand and technology executives, hosted by Editor-in-Chief, Ben Hanson.Find daily editorials, reports, analysis, stories and more at The Interline.

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00:26:39

Shopping, Sizing, Social, AI Strategy, And Domestic...

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2026/08/12

This week, with a slight delay, Grace and Ben discuss:The ongoing tension between retailers and AI agents, and the reversed injunction in the case of Amazon and Perplexity: https://easternherald.com/2026/08/05/perplexity-comet-amazon-ninth-circuit-ruling/ Several surveys, and reporting, on the reasons that brands are not realising value from their AI investments: https://www.businessoffashion.com/articles/technology/the-reason-your-ai-investments-arent-paying-off/ Pinterest's expansion into the

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00:59:46

What Business Spend Data Really Says About AI Adoption

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2026/08/06

Fifty-five per cent of American businesses now pay for AI. But what are companies actually buying, and who are they buying it from? And, more specifically, what does fashion need to know about the economics of AI?To find out, Ben talks to Ara Kharazian, Lead Economist at Ramp, and one of the people behind the widely-cited AI Index.Useful reading:Ara's research at Ramp — https://ramp.com/authors/ara-kharazianRamp Economics Lab — https://ramp.com/dataRamp AI Index — https://ramp.com/data/ai-indexEcon

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00:23:04

AI Meets 3D Printing, Composable eCommerce, SHEIN's...

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2026/08/04

This week, Grace and Ben from the usual weekly format slightly and bring on Danit Peleg, fresh off her AI-meets-3D-printing presentation at Figma Config: https://config.figma.com/san-francisco/session/349f94c6-628e-40ff-9f90-119750e60bfa/Then they pick up three industry headlines to analyse, quickfire style, rather than the usual five.Salesforce's investment in Callimacus:

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00:47:35

Why Fashion Still Over-Develops

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2026/07/30

Despite decades’ worth of technology adoption and transformation initiatives, brands, on average, develop far more materials and style than they, or the market, actually need.Ben talks to Liza Amlani, author of The Material Life and Co-Founder of Retail Strategy Group, to understand where overdevelopment stems from, and what needs to change to help curb it.

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00:25:12

Clothing Destruction, Cybersecurity and AI,...

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2026/07/28

This week, Grace and Ben discuss a diverse mix of fashion technology stories, although AI is still front and centre.The European Commission's ban on the destruction of unsold clothing: https://environment.ec.europa.eu/news/ban-destruction-unsold-clothes-and-shoes-enters-application-2026-07-17_enAn unprecedented AI cybersecurity moment... or a marketing stunt? https://openai.com/index/hugging-face-model-evaluation-security-incident/The explosion in maturity of open-weights Chinese models, and the

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00:46:29

The Case For Creating A New, Digital-Native Luxury Group

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2026/07/23

Groups and conglomerates have dominated luxury for decades, but recent attempts to forge new ones have floundered. A new Irish group, steeped in the country’s heritage, is betting on technology making the difference.To find out if it will, Ben sits down with Ashley McDonnell, CEO of VYKO Group.

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00:24:59

Bespoke Technology, BNPL, Mystery Boxes, AI Advisory,...

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2026/07/21

Grace and Ben debate the top fashion headlines, including...The push and pull between bespoke and general purpose AI, and off-the-shelf vs. custom technology in general: https://uk.fashionnetwork.com/news/Beauty-pie-replatforms-through-shopify-for-next-growth-phase,1852537.html and https://www.retaildive.com/news/customer-service-third-party-generative-ai-tools-brand-chatbots/825032/ and https://www.retail-week.com/technology/the-very-group-enters-agentic-ai-partnership-for-pricing/7051644.article

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00:46:21

Can 3D Weaving Make Domestic Production Viable?

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2026/07/16

Arne Arens made the unusual leap from being a brand executive to leading a technology company in fashion’s most unforgiving segment: manufacturing innovation. From creating net-new jobs to translating digital product creation outputs into seamless garments, his big bet is on this particular transformation taking root.Ben puts the vision to the test.

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00:24:13

An AI Likeness Free-For-All, Social Impact,...

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2026/07/14

This week, Ben and Grace discuss:The launch of Meta's Muse image model, with opt-out likeness tagging - and the ongoing battle between human models are the companies they shoot for, who seem willing to misappropriate their likenesses: https://www.theverge.com/tech/962485/meta-muse-image-ai-model-instagram and https://wwd.com/sourcing-journal/industry-news/fashion-model-racial-discrimination-artificial-intelligence-1239051932/The more tangible social impacts of AI-supporting data centre build-outs in

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00:55:20

Finding The Feeling In AI Campaigns

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2026/07/09

Zalando has pushed further than perhaps any other company in embedding generative AI into its content creation - from product page materials to full-blown creative campaigns - and in talking openly about it. But if cost-saving isn’t the primary objective, what is?Ben talks to Glazione Rocha, Creative Director, to find out how a company at the bleeding edge of deploying AI for consumer-facing content approaches the work, and how they think about the impact of their choices.

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00:22:02

Substack, Politics, Surveillance, Scaling Recycling,...

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2026/07/07

For this week's edition of The Edit - the quickfire fashion technology analysis show from The Interline - Ben and Grace talk about...Fashion's place in Substack sponsorships:https://on.substack.com/p/a-business-model-that-works-for-creators Domestic manufacturing and tech startups against the backdrop of UK political devolution: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/29/what-is-andy-burnhams-economic-and-political-blueprint-for-britainThe surveillance state, and the spying potential of

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00:54:26

The High Bar For Disrupting Knitting

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2026/07/02

Outside of software itself, knitting is probably the closest thing fashion has to coding: a verifiable, binary discipline defined by scarce talent, and specialised software and hardware. Upending it might be the industry’s high bar for new technology - but one company is trying anyway.Ben talks to Garrett Gerson, CEO and Co-Founder of Variant3D.

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00:22:18

Social Bans, Smart Glasses, Programmatic AI, And...

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2026/06/30

In this week's quickfire analysis, Social Editor Grace Robinson quizzes Editor-In-Chief Ben Hanson on:The UK’s under-sixteen social media ban and the race to reach Gen Alpha.Meta’s Ray-Ban-free smart glasses and Snap’s premium AR specs.SSENSE replacing its creative teams with AI.REI’s two-handlebar AI ad and Meta’s auto-enrolled ad tool.And how a record-breaking European heatwave reminds us that fashion needs to react to a changing world.The Edit is also available on YouTube.

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01:01:37

The Forking Path From Invention To Industrialisation

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2026/06/25

Upstream innovation, in materials, processing, and production, has had a chequered few years. Promising pilots routinely fail to take flight or achieve commercial scale. Ben talks to Stephen Bates, CEO of RHEON LABS, to assess what success on the journey from lab to big-label deployment might actually look like.

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00:21:30

Risk, Reward, And Cultural Pushback on AI In Fashion...

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2026/06/23

This week on The Edit: five fresh headline stories from across fashion and technology receive the quickfire analysis treatment.First: Anthropic releases and is then forced to retract its new Fable 5 model - https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-accessSecond: new data from Adobe suggests that AI interactions can increase retail conversions by 54%, and token budgets per employee appear less out-of-control than analysts suspected -

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00:56:57

The Future Of Fashion’s Thirst For Water

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2026/06/18

Fashion devotes a lot of time to securing its inputs, but the importance of water to the industry’s supply chain goes under-discussed, and water is not quantified and assessed the way carbon is. But as water justice becomes a more acute business continuity risk, the demand to reckon with fashion’s thirst is growing.Ben talks to Amira Jehia, Founding Executive Director of Drip By Drip, to understand why water impact quantification lags behind carbon footprint assessment, despite representing a more

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00:24:25

AI VTO, Automation, Lawsuits, Personalisation, And...

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2026/06/16

The first edition of The Edit, a new weekly show where Social Editor Grace interviews Editor-in-Chief Ben about five headline stories from across fashion and technology in less than 25 minutes.This week the team pick up and analyse:DRESSX and Depop tackle virtual try-on for the secondary market:https://retailtechinnovationhub.com/home/2026/6/7/dressx-teams-with-depop-on-series-of-ai-powered-resale-styling-and-virtual-try-on-activationsAsda and Amazon pursue different slants on warehouse automation:

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00:46:13

Proving Out The Pre-Loved Luxury Model

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2026/06/09

The case is strong for someone to own the secondary market, but whether that winds up being first or third-party ownership will depend as much on platforms and standards as it does on business models and incentives.This week, Ben talks to Muhammad "Mo" Kharodia, CTO of pre-loved childrenswear platform Designer Kids Club, to examine why a founder sees an opportunity to prove out the technology for the secondary market in a narrow tranche first.

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00:48:11

Is Innovation Shaping Storytelling Or Vice Versa?

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2026/06/02

Fashion and beauty are surrounded by digital surfaces and physical spaces, and technology has fast become a fixture of how the higher echelons of both industries tell stories and create experiences. But what does the work really look like? And which force - tech or narrative - is in the driving seat?To find out, Ben talks to Francesco Bernabei, CEO of creative innovation studio Monogrid.

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00:49:04

Earning The Right To Replace Spreadsheets

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2026/05/26

Fashion professionals, particularly in planning-related disciplines, are tasked with making a lot of decisions. The environment those choices live in is still stubbornly Excel, so what does it take to design software to replace spreadsheets - especially when AI is added to the mix?To get a perspective, Ben talks to Michaela Wessels, CEO and Co-Founder of Style Arcade.

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