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Unsupervised Learning with Jacob Effron

by Redpoint Ventures

We probe the sharpest minds in AI in search for the truth about what’s real today, what will be real in the future and what it all means for businesses and the world. If you’re a builder, researcher or investor navigating the AI world, this podcast will help you deconstruct and understand the most important breakthroughs and see a clearer picture of reality. Follow this show and consider enabling notifications to stay up to date on our latest episodes. Unsupervised Learning is a podcast by

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00:50:44

Ep 62: CEO of Cohere Aidan Gomez on Scaling Limits...

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2025/04/15

Aidan joined this week’s Unsupervised Learning for a wide-ranging conversation on model architectures, enterprise adoption, and what’s breaking in the foundation model stack. If you’re building or investing in AI infrastructure, Aidan is worth listening to. He co-authored the original Transformer paper, leads one of the most advanced model labs outside of the hyperscalers, and is now building for real-world enterprise deployment with Cohere’s agent platform, North. Cohere serves thousands of

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00:43:28

Ep 61: Redpoint’s AI Investors Break Down What...

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2025/04/09

At Redpoint’s annual meeting with investors, Redpoint partners Scott Raney, Alex Bard, Patrick Chase and Jacob Effron shared unfiltered thoughts on some of the most topical questions in AI today, where value will accrue, which industries are best positioned for defensibility at the application layer, and more. [0:00] Intro[0:39] AI Investment Landscape[1:30] Market Projections[3:25] Strategic Imperatives in AI[6:04] AI Model Layer Insights[10:06] Infrastructure Layer[11:46] Application Layer[15:04]

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01:01:30

Ep 60: Swyx and Alessio (Latent Space) on What has...

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2025/03/28

To unpack some of the most topical questions in AI, I’m joined by two fellow AI podcasters: Swyx and Alessio Fanelli, co-hosts of the Latent Space podcast. We’ve been wanting to do a cross-over episode for a while and finally made it happen.Swyx brings deep experience from his time at AWS, Temporal, and Airbyte, and is now focused on AI agents and dev tools. Alessio is an investor at Decibel, where he’s been backing early technical teams pushing the boundaries of infrastructure and applied AI

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00:44:37

Ep 59: OpenAI Product & Eng Leads Nikunj Handa and...

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2025/03/25

Two weeks ago, OpenAI released its set of tools to help developers build agentic systems. Today on Unsupervised Learning, Nikunj Handa (Product Lead) and Steve Coffey (Eng Lead) answer some of the biggest questions around how developers should be thinking about building in the agentic paradigm in 2025. [0:00] Intro[0:53] OpenAI’s Vision for Consumer Interaction[4:51] Building Multi-Agent Systems for Business Solutions[6:53] Challenges and Innovations in AI Fine-Tuning[13:20] Exploring Computer Use

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01:09:28

Ep 58: Google Researchers Noam Shazeer and Jack Rae...

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2025/03/17

On the latest episode of Unsupervised Learning, Jacob is joined by two of the most influential minds in AI today. 🔹 Noam Shazeer, co-inventor of the Transformer🔹 Jack Rae, Research Director at DeepMind and one of the leads behind Gemini’s Flash ThinkingWe got to ask them all of the top-of-mind questions in AI today about where we are, where we’re headed and what it means for businesses and the world. Some key take-aways: [0:00] Intro[1:30] Exploring Gemini 2.0[4:04] Challenges with Evals and

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00:44:47

Ep 57: Former CTO of Meta Mike Schroepfer on the Path...

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2025/03/05

On today’s Unsupervised Learning, Mike Schroepfer (ex-CTO of Meta and founder of Gigascale Capital) reveals why energy is a key bottleneck holding AI progress back. Mike discusses how we can scale energy production to democratize AI globally and explores AI’s role in climate change. He also reflects on a decade as Meta’s CTO and how AI coding is transforming the CTO role. Finally, he offers predictions on the future of AI developer tools, VR, and open-source models. [0:00] Intro[0:43] AI's Role in

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01:13:01

Ep 56: Distinguished Engineer at Waymo Vincent...

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2025/02/26

Waymo is an autonomous driving technology company with the mission to be the world's most trusted driver. The company operates a 24/7 public ride-hail service and provides over 150,000 trips each week across San Francisco, Los Angeles, Phoenix, and Austin, making mobility more accessible, sustainable, and safer for everyone.In this week’s episode of Unsupervised Learning, we dive deep into the frontier where AI meets hardware — and there’s no better guide than Vincent Vanhoucke, Distinguished

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00:43:49

Ep 55: Head of Amazon AGI Lab David Luan on...

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2025/02/19

David is an OG in AI who has been at the forefront of many of the major breakthroughs of the past decade. His resume: VP of Engineering at OpenAI, a key contributor to Google Brain, co-founder of Adept, and now leading Amazon’s SF AGI Lab. In this episode we focused on how far test-time compute gets us, the real implications of DeepSeek, what agents milestones he’s looking for and more.[0:00] Intro[1:14] DeepSeek Reactions and Market Implications[2:44] AI Models and Efficiency[4:11] Challenges in

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00:57:09

Ep 54: Princeton Researcher Arvind Narayanan on the...

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2025/01/30

Arvind Narayanan is one of the leading voices in AI when it comes to cutting through the hype. As a Princeton professor and co-author of AI Snake Oil, he’s one of the most thoughtful voices cautioning against both unfounded fears and overblown promises in AI. In this episode, Arvind dissects the future of AI in education, its parallels to past tech revolutions, and how our jobs are already shifting toward managing these powerful tools. Some of our favorite take-aways: [0:00] Intro[0:46] Reasoning

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01:24:15

Ep 53: SemiAnalysis Founder Dylan Patel on New AI...

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2025/01/21

In this episode of Unsupervised Learning, we sit down with Dylan Patel, Chief Analyst at SemiAnalysis, to break down what these sweeping changes really mean. From how they consolidate power among Big Tech to China's narrowing options for AI dominance, we unpacked the impact of this regulatory shift.Follow SemiAnalysis: https://semianalysis.com/ [0:00] Intro[1:07] Grading the AI Diffusion Rule[3:48] What Will Happen to the Malaysian Data Centers?[7:23] How do the Regulations Favor Giant Tech

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00:39:57

EP 52: Marc Benioff Responds to Satya and Unpacks the...

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2025/01/10

In this cross-over episode with The Logan Bartltett Show, Marc Benioff (CEO, Salesforce) responds to Satya Nadella’s recent predictions and shares his thoughts on the current reality of Agi. He dives into the rise of digital labor, the multi-trillion-dollar potential of agentic technology, and what the future split between software and agentic revenue might look like. Marc also discusses why CEOs need to stay grounded in delivering actionable solutions, and he emphasizes the moral obligation

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01:07:32

Ep 51: Former Chief Research Officer of OpenAI Bob...

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2024/12/18

In our new world of AI, few minds shine as brightly as Bob McGrew's. Until November Bob was the Chief Research Officer at OpenAI, and before that led Palantir’s engineering and product management for the first decade of its existence. He’s seen it all and we were fortunate to get his insights and vision for the future in one of my favorite episodes of Unsupervised Learning to date: [0:00] Intro[0:44] Debating AI Model Capabilities[0:57] Inside vs Outside Perspectives on AI Progress[1:39] Challenges

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00:55:49

Ep 50: Fireworks CEO Lin Qiao on Why There Won’t be a...

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2024/12/16

Lin Qiao, the co-founder of Fireworks.ai, sits down for a deep dive into the future of AI. Lin ran the PyTorch team at Meta, which developed some of the most fundamental open-source AI software in use today. She’s got a riveting perspective on the AI landscape that is a must-listen. [0:00] Intro[1:06] Fireworks: Revolutionizing AI Inference[2:12] Challenges in AI Model Development[4:05] The Future of AI: Compound Systems[4:32] Designing Effective AI Tools[10:26] Customization and Fine-Tuning in

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00:47:12

Ep 49: OpenAI Researcher Noam Brown Unpacks the Full...

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2024/12/06

Noam Brown, renowned AI researcher and key figure at OpenAI, joins us for a deep dive into the o1 release. Recorded just one day before o1’s full public debut, this episode explores the groundbreaking advancements and challenges behind this innovative test-time compute model.We discuss the technical breakthroughs that set o1 apart, its unique capabilities compared to previous models, and how it disrupts traditional paradigms in AI development. Noam also shares insights into OpenAI’s approach to

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00:45:28

Ep 48: Co-Founder/CEO of LiveKit Russ d'Sa on the...

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2024/11/19

For this episode of Unsupervised Learning we spoke with Russ d'Sa, co-founder of LiveKit, a company at the forefront of voice AI technology. Russ thinks of LiveKit as a “nervous system,” powering the sensory interfaces humans use to interact with AI – including the Advanced Voice feature in ChatGPT as well as applications like Character.ai, Spotify and many more. Russ talked about when voice makes sense as an interface, the exciting new UX paradigms on the horizon, the intersection of voice and

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01:04:25

Ep 47: Chief AI Scientist of Databricks Jonathan...

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2024/11/12

Jonathan Frankle is the Chief AI Scientist at Databricks ($43B), which he joined through the acquisition of MosaicML in July 2023. Databricks has over 12,000 customers on the cutting edge of AI; Jonathan works to anticipate their needs and offer solutions even as the tech is rapidly evolving. [0:00] Intro[0:52] Incentives and Team Motivation at Databricks[2:40] The Evolution of AI Models: Transformers vs. LSTMs[5:27] Mosaic and Databricks: A Strategic Merger[7:31] Guidance on AI Model Training and

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00:56:10

Ep 46: CEO of DeepL Jarek Kutylowski on Specialized...

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2024/10/29

I sat down with DeepL cofounder Jarek Kutylowski. DeepL is a comprehensive Language AI platform that enables organizations to communicate effectively across languages, cultures, and markets. Jarek shared a treasure trove of insights on the past, present, and future of AI translation. Here were some standout moments: [0:00] Intro[0:38] The Rise of AI and DeepL's Journey[1:41] DeepL's Competitive Edge and Market Impact[2:41] Innovations in AI Translation[4:39] DeepL's Product and Use Cases[7:35]

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00:51:46

Ep 45: Founder & CEO of HeyGen Josh Xu on TikTok’s...

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2024/10/15

Joshua Xu is co-founder and CEO of HeyGen -- the fast-growing AI video creation and translation platform. You can upload a video, or create a new one from a script using an AI avatar as your star, and HeyGen will translate it into 175 languages. HeyGen now serves over 40,000 customers and is generating $35+ million in revenue. [0:00] Intro [0:37] HeyGen's Viral Moments [1:23] Creating Magic with AI [3:30] The Future of AI in Video Production [9:29] HeyGen's Use Cases and Customer Base [13:15]

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01:06:20

Ep 44: Co-Founder of Together.AI Percy Liang on...

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2024/10/03

Percy Liang is a Stanford professor and co-founder of Together AI, driving some of the most critical advances in AI research. Percy is also a trained classical pianist, which clearly influences the way he thinks about technology. We explored the evolution of AI from simple token prediction to autonomous agents capable of long-term problem-solving, the problem of interpretability, and the future of AI safety in complex, real-world systems. [0:00] Intro[0:46] Discussing OpenAI's O1 Model [2:21] The

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00:57:23

Ep 43: CEO/Co-Founder of Contextual AI Douwe Kiela...

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2024/09/18

Douwe’s contributions to AI are truly a part of its bedrock foundations. He wrote the first paper on retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) and has raised over $100 million to help enterprises build contextual language models that fit their use cases. Before Contextual he was the head of research at Hugging Face, worked on the Facebook AI research team (i.e. Llama) and remains a professor at Stanford. Douwe was incredibly open about his take on AI’s recent history and where he thinks it’s

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