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This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine

Overnight Productions, Inc.

For a quarter of a century, the unfettered voices of LGBT people have been broadcast around the world on "This Way Out." The award-winning internationally is distributed weekly on over 200 local community radio and online stations around the world (carriage list at thiswayout.org), can be heard via podcast (thiswayout.org and iTunes) and direct satellite (World Radio Network) and is available on CD by subscription. With only modest funding from foundations, Overnight Productions, Inc. (a 501(c)(3)

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Audio Archive Saves Queer History

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2025/05/13

This Way Out’s own collection of programs dating back to 1988 is already becoming a valuable tool for LGBTQ+ researchers and educators, even as the extensive process of data sorting and cataloging is getting underway. Project lead and Overnight Productions (Inc,) CEO Brian DeShazor discusses the next steps and the importance of preserving original materials with University of North Texas queer media professor Dr. Tanya D. Zuk.And in NewsWrap: most queer Catholic groups greet Pope Leo XIV with

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Poetic Duet: Adrienne Rich and Audre Lorde

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2025/05/06

Classic appearances by two giants in the world of poetry regardless of gender or orientation, reading from their work and responding to their audience, brought together by the magic of recording tape (!) and the courtesy of the Pacifica Radio Archives (produced by Brian DeShazor).And in NewsWrap: transgender former High Court judge Dr. Victoria McCloud will take the U.K. Supreme Court definition of the word “woman” to the European Court of Human Rights, the sports world in the U.K. feels the

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Jason “Journeyman’s” Queer Ecology

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2025/04/29

Oppressive governments like the Trump administration may try to erase queer identities and histories, but California Naturalist and educator Jason “Journeyman” Wise reveals how science is recognizing that the rigid, patriarchal, binary view of the natural world is no match for the true fluid, diverse and interdependent reality (interviewed by Jason Jenn).And in NewsWrap: hundreds of thousands of protesters filled the streets of London and other cities to denounce the U.K. Supreme Court‘s

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00:28:58

Resisting the Erasure of Pauli Murray

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2025/04/08

Even at the National Historic Landmark dedicated to a queer civil rights activist, legal scholar, author and Episcopal priest, the Trump administration is rewriting U.S. history. Executive Director Angela Thorpe Mason of the Pauli Murray Center for History and Social Justice in Durham, North Carolina is fighting to keep the legacy alive (produced by David Hunt).And in NewsWrap: Greek men whether gay or straight won’t be able to access surrogacy services under a law being proposed to parliament,

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00:28:58

Garcia Checks Greene & Pritzker Preaches to HRC

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2025/03/31

Infamous U.S. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) didn’t know what she was getting into when she defamed the drag artist with a doctorate Professor Lil Miss Hot Mess, but gay Representative Robert Garcia (D-CA) had the skillful sarcasm to shut her down (Lauren Schmitt reports).lIllinois Governor JB Pritzker’s fiery address lights up the Human Rights Campaign’s annual Los Angeles dinner with a call to move the movement into the streets. And in NewsWrap: same-gender sex is outlawed again

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00:28:58

Thank You For Trans Service, Col. Fram

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2025/03/25

While transgender members of the U.S. military wait on tinder hooks for the courts to rule on President Donald Trump’s order to expel them, Col. Bree Fram of the Space Force refuses to give up her frontline post. The courageous trans soldier, a descendant of a family with a history of valiant service, shares her story. Note: Fram spoke in her personal capacity and her views do not necessarily reflect those of the Defense Department or the United States Government. (interviewed by David Hunt).And

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Beyond Identity: Bettcher’s Transgender Philosophy

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2025/03/18

Transgender philosophy professor Talia Mae Bettcher (“Beyond Personhood: An Essay in Trans Philosophy”) confronts a world that oppression has turned upside down, and has some bold suggestions for radical, liberating action to stop trans erasure (interviewed by Tanya Kane-Parry).And in NewsWrap: the U.S. Department of the Navy puts its plans to expel Navy and Marine Corps personnel with a history of gender dysphoria into high gear, transgender Representative Zooey Zephyr eloquently convinces the

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00:28:59

Signs: What You Say, How You Serve, Who You Marry

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2025/03/10

In the cycle between LGBTQ+ inclusion and exile, you can see the same signposts in either direction. Whether the queer community is on the rise or whether rights are being extinguished step by step, three bellwether issues are “no promo homo” laws, military service and marriage equality. Current news and archival reports from March 2000 illustrate the point. And in NewsWrap: Ghana’s horrific anti-queer bill is being reintroduced by ten member of Parliament, Germany’s government is cautioning its

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00:28:58

Paul Outlaw: Baldwin’s American Dream/American Negro

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2025/02/25

Sixty years ago this month, days before the assassination of Malcolm X and weeks ahead of “Bloody Sunday” on the Edmund Pettus Bridge, the University of Cambridge’s historic debate society hosted a face-off between Black gay author, activist and public intellectual James Baldwin and conservative founder of The National Review William F. Buckley, Jr. Baldwin’s presentation is read by multidisciplinary performing artist Paul Outlaw (produced by Brian DeShazor).And in NewsWrap: the world’s first out

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00:28:58

The Rise and Fall of MECLA (Pt. 2)

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2025/02/18

The Municipal Elections Committee of Los Angeles had a brief, shining romance with progressive candidates that began in the 70s, but in the 90s AIDS brought about the demise of the first LGBTQ political action committee in the United States (Part 2 of 2 produced by David Hunt). And in NewsWrap: Indonesian authorities arrest 56 men during a raid at a private gathering they label a “gay sex party” in a Jakarta hotel, Argentina’s far-right President Javier Milei signs a decree banning gender-affirming

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Erin Reed Reports from the Trans Wars

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2025/02/04

Transgender journalist Erin Reed is a respected independent voice with a large following on social media. She met with a group trans people and allies to review the growing list of anti-trans executive orders coming out of the Trump White House (produced by David Hunt).And in NewsWrap: gender-affirming healthcare for Australia’s trans and gender-diverse young people is under review, U.S. President Donald Trump “has blood on his hands” after a blitz of anti-transgender executive orders, the Human

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00:28:59

The Late Anita Bryant’s Lost Cause

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2025/01/28

Memories of the havoc created and the massive response engendered by the recently deceased “orange juice queen” Anita Bryant can inspire a new generation to meet vicious attacks with creative resistance (produced by Brian DeShazor with This Way Out reports preserved in the American Archive of Public Broadcasting).And in NewsWrap: Ghana’s in-coming President John Mahama announces that the anti-queer “Promotion of Proper Human Sexual Rights and Ghanaian Family Values” bill is “effectively dead,” a

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San Francisco Drag Laureate D’Arcy Drollinger

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2025/01/07

The world’s first Drag Laureate, appointed by San Francisco Mayor London Breed, talks about drag culture and onslaught of persecution in the U.S. and around the world. Included are excerpts from Drollinger’s stand-up routine at his trans-friendly nightspot Oasis, and inspirational words from “Sexitude,” the self-affirming dance class he leads. Interviewed by Eric Jansen of “Out in the Bay” (outinthebay.org).NewsWrap returns next week. All this on the January 6, 2025 edition of This Way Out! Join

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Speaking of Queer News, 2024

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2024/12/31

Some of the people making LGBTQ news in 2024 including Taiwan’s LGBTQ-supportive incoming president Lai Ching-te, trans-supportive Missouri Rabbi Daniel Bogard, anti-LGBTQ Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, Philadelphia’s Guinness World Record-breaking Drag Queen Story Time, Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s pro-insurrectionist wife Martha Ann, Thailand’s pro-marriage equality lawmakers, U.S. Ambassador to Hungary David Pressman, predictably hostile national convention Republicans, Democrats

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Lies and Laws vs. Trans Kids and Families

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2024/12/24

Lies about transgender and nonbinary youth are the basis for the fountain of new laws making it increasingly difficult to access lifesaving pediatric gender-affirming healthcare. While the lies and the laws get most of the attention, TransFamily Support Services founder Kathie Moehlig helps the targeted kids and their families navigate the nightmare (interviewed by David Hunt). And in NewsWrap: Ghana’s version of a “no promo homo” law withstands Supreme Court challenges on grounds that they are

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00:28:58

Strangio Is Supreme at the High Court

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2024/12/17

Experienced analysts like former Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund legal director David Brown (interviewed by David Hunt) are praising progressive U.S. Supreme Court Justices Ketanji Brown-Jackson, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan for their questioning of Tennessee Solicitor General Matthew Rice about his state’s ban on pediatric gender-affirming healthcare, but the trans man of the hour is the American Civil Liberties Union’s Chase Strangio, who became the first transgender attorney to

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00:28:58

North Carolina State of Fear for Pro-NB Parents

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2024/12/10

Jimmy and Megan have no doubt that the gender identity of one of their three kids is unfolding differently. What they’re not sure about is whether it’s safe to raise their kids in the home they love. (Produced by David Hunt in Raleigh, North Carolina)And in NewsWrap: the United States Supreme Court hears a constitutional challenge to Tennessee’s ban on pediatric gender-affirming healthcare, seven are arrested in raids on three queer-welcoming Moscow nightspots “to combat LGBT propaganda,” Walmart

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Manhunt: Queers and Cops Catch a Killer (Part 2)

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2024/11/26

The killer who stalked Los Angeles gay bars in the early 80s slipped away twice (for reasons explained by Deputy D.A. Dino Fulgoni), but investigating officer Mike Thies wouldn’t give up. Years later, lesbian policy manager Madeline Brancel rediscovered the life of her gay great-uncle, who was one of the victims (Part 2 of 2, produced by David Hunt).And in NewsWrap: protections for women and the rights of queer people are among the stumbling blocks to finalizing a deal at the U.N.’s COP29 climate

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Manhunt: Queers and Cops Catch a Killer (Part 1)

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2024/11/19

A series of murders centering on the Los Angeles gay men’s bar scene leads investigating officer Mike Thies to join forces with the community for an unprecedented search for the killer. (Part 1 of 2, produced by David Hunt) And in NewsWrap: Russian orphans will not be finding new homes in countries where gender transitioning is available, Uzbekistan’s ruling National Revival Party’s government is drafting a measure to outlaw the discussion of LGBTQ subjects, a bill to prevent Ohio’s transgender

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U.S. Elections: Take the LGBTQ+ Wins

This Way Out: The International LGBTQ Radio Magazine ·

2024/11/12

The U.S. elections were a wake-up call for the “woke,” yet even though the overall results spell danger, there are a number of queer bright spots to celebrate. With commentary by Andy Humm and Ann Northrop of GayUSA, our coverage includes homophobic Georgia gubernatorial candidate Mark Robinson, trans U.S. Congressmember-elect Sarah McBride (Delaware), lesbian Wisconsin Senator Tammy Baldwin, lesbian U.S Congressmember Angie Craig (Minnesota), Native American lesbian U.S Congressmember Sharice

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