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PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden

Pharos Echo Park

Welcome to the PAC Talkwhere we help you explore your capacity to move better, push further and achieve your limitless potential through fitness, nutrition, recovery, and lifestyle. I’m your host Pieter Vodden, co-owner of PHAROS Athletic Club in Echo Park. Thanks for tuning in and Welcome To The PAC!”Welcome to the Pac, please make sure you subscribe wherever you are listening to this show and if you loved this show please leave us a 5 star review in the iTunes store. It is the currency of podcasts

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30:31

Resilience When It Hurts: How to Keep Going When...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/07/04

What does it really mean to be resilient—not when things are easy, but when life is actively falling apart? In this powerful episode of Pac Talk, Piet Vodden and Emylee Cavell get honest about the emotional, financial, and physical weight of building something meaningful from scratch. From personal struggles and $2 million in debt to opening four gym locations without big corporate backing, this is the behind-the-scenes story of grit, growth, and grit again.Together, they break down the three

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11:54

The Strong Summer Survival Guide: How to Stay Fit,...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/06/27

How do you stay healthy, grounded, and strong when summer throws your routine off track?In this episode of PAC Talk, Pieter Vodden and Emylee Cavell share their real-world travel tips—from road tripping with kids to staying fit without a gym. They reveal how they personally navigate vacation workouts, nutrition on the go, and family time without letting it all fall apart.Plus, they introduce the PAC Travel Guide—a free resource packed with at-home workouts, mobility videos, nutrition strategies, and

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24:19

10 Things We Learnt from The Limitless Challenge

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/06/20

This week, I sit down and discuss the top 10 lessons I learned from this year’s Limitless Challenge. How did people lose so much fat, gain so much muscle, and improve their lives? We always learn as much as we teach because the challenge is a collection of individualized experiences. Everybody goes through their own set of obstacles and wins, and the information and data we get back helps us better prepare for the future — maybe through correlation, maybe through inspiration, maybe through

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13:15

How to Measure Wins On (and Off) The Scale

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/06/13

In this episode of Pac Talk, Pieter and Emylee Vodden share the real metrics that matter when it comes to progress—beyond just the number on the scale. After working with 75 people over a six-week challenge, Pieter and Emylee Vodden, reflects on what actually leads to meaningful transformation. From energy levels and mood to sleep, hunger cues, and performance, this episode helps you redefine what a “win” looks like. Plus, they break down six essential habits for long-term success, and explores how

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56:39

Burn It Down to Start Again: John Kim & Pieter Vodden...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/06/06

This week, I sit down with John Kim—aka The Angry Therapist. John is a therapist and author currently working on his seventh book. This is our fifth podcast together, and I think it’s our best yet. John was one of the first people I met in L.A. and my first roommate in the U.S. We’ve both been on a journey that’s led to a natural fork in the road. New beginnings are on the horizon after an unforeseeable tragedy. But sometimes, light comes from darkness—and what we thought was the end is really just

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13:17

How to Actually Build (or Break) a Habit: Systems for...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/05/30

In this week’s Limitless Challenge call, Emylee Vodden walks you through a powerful framework for habit formation, inspired by Atomic Habits by James Clear. Whether you're trying to build a morning routine, save money, or finally ditch the doom scroll, this episode helps you get clear on the “structured how.” Learn how to make good habits obvious, attractive, easy, and satisfying — and break bad ones by reversing the formula. Plus, Emylee shares real-life examples from her own journey and the

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13:01

Caloric Deficit Explained: Why You’re Not Losing Fat...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/05/23

Most people think they’re in a caloric deficit… until they realize they’re not. In this clip from the Limitless Challenge weekend call, I break down what a true caloric deficit actually looks like, why it’s essential for fat loss, and how to track it without obsessing over every bite. If you’ve hit a plateau or are frustrated by your results, this might be the missing piece. Let’s make sure the work you’re putting in is actually getting you closer to your goals.Welcome to the Pac, please make sure

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11:54

Excuses vs. Truth: How to Rewrite the Story and...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/05/16

Emylee here back once again! This week, I’m sharing something personal from inside the Limitless Challenge—a practice I’ve been using to call out the quiet, sneaky stories I tell myself that hold me back. Stories like “I have no time,” “I have no self-control,” or “I don’t finish what I start.” Sound familiar?In this episode, I walk through how I’ve been learning to separate story from truth—and how that shift is helping me take real action toward the life I want. If you’ve ever felt stuck in shame,

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13:30

What is The Laziest Version of you Willing To Do with...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/05/09

In today’s episode, I’m stepping in as your guest host, Emylee Vodden.We don’t fail because we’re lazy—we fail because we build routines that only work when we’re at our best. In this episode, I’m flipping that script. What’s the laziest version of you still willing to do? That’s where the real change happens. Whether it’s drinking water before coffee, hitting your step count even on a rough day, or having go-to meals prepped, we’re talking about building bare minimum habits that still move you

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53:55

Fast Track Results and Make Them Last - 6 Week...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/04/15

We’re excited to introduce the Limitless Challenge—a six-week coaching program we designed to help you reach your fitness and nutrition goals in a sustainable, community-driven way.This recording is from our Limitless Challenge onboarding call this weekend. We dive into why we created this challenge, the kinds of people we built it for, and how our own experiences—Pieter’s background in personal training and Emylee’s holistic approach to wellness—influenced the structure of the program. We talk

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49:49

The Business of Lifting Heavy and Going Far with...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/04/11

This week, I sit down with Lizzy Picardi. Lizzy is a powerlifter, marathon runner, and founder of Rose City Barbell in Pasadena. We talk about her journey from powerlifting to bodybuilding to endurance athletics, how she manages her training schedule, how she fuels her hybrid body, and the benefits and hardships of running her own gym.I’ve been fortunate enough to know Lizzy for a long time, and watching how she has grown and pivoted over the years has been amazing to see. This is a great podcast

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58:58

Tallow is the new Bone Broth with Carrie Richards

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/03/28

This week I sit down with “The Queen of Regenerative Ranching “ Carrie Richards . Carrie is the owner of “Richard’s Regenerative”, a fifth generation farm in California committed to provide “our customers with a healthier and more sustainable source of beef“. It has been a few years since our last podcast, lessons have been learned and changes have happened to ensure survival. We talk about the importance of this movement and how we could make it more available and affordable for broad populations,

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22:16

To The Edge & Back Again: Lessons Learned From Doing...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/03/21

Training must be measured; the right amount of the right kind must be applied at the right time. In this Podcast Emylee and I discuss her scare with Rhabdomyolysis, what it taught her and how she rebuilt her body and her mind from the ground up.The hardest lessons can sometimes be the most educational...Listen, share and reach out if something similar has happened to you and you need advice or help!Join the PAC and learn how to set yourself up for success, one habit at a time.Welcome to the Pac,

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33:10

How to Do Everything, Everywhere, All at Once:...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/03/14

This week Emylee and I discuss how we are keeping the train on the tracks. With 2 kids, 4 gyms, 50 employees, a lot of responsibilities and financial pressure it would be easy to crumble. We discuss steps we have taken, management tools, coping mechanisms and strategies to stay productive and progressive.Join the PAC and learn how to set yourself up for success, one habit at a time.Welcome to the Pac, please make sure you subscribe wherever you are listening to this show and if you loved this show

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1:03:34

Training in the Golden Era: The Journey to Becoming a...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/03/07

This week I sit down with the legendary Bobby Strom. Bobby is as OG as it gets in the business. He was Bodybuilding with the forefathers of muscle in the 70s and 80s, competed in over 30 shows, won multiple awardsand went on to be one of the most sought after Personal Trainers in the industry. Bobby was one of the original “Celebrity Trainers” in Hollywood before the term even existed. From supermodels to superheroes, if you’ve heard of them, likely Bobby has trained them. We talk about the old

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40:57

Building the Biggest Little Gym with Laura Hood

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/02/28

This week I sit down with Laura Hood, our Director of Operations at PHAROS Athletic Club. We talk about our journey together, growth, overcoming obstacles and the future. “Not a day goes by when we thank God for Laura“ is something we have been saying for a very long time…here’s why!Great podcast for anyone trying to grow a small business, anyone in the fitness industry or anyone that just likes to hear about the PHAROS story so far. Enjoy, like and share as always and don’t forget to subscribe to

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32:30

Breathwork, Meditation and Psychedelic’s with Amanda...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/02/14

This week I sit down with CoachAmanda Perri to talk all things recovery. Amanda’s journey from yogato strength and conditioningand her experience with a near fatal accident has given her a unique and fascinating perspective on fitness . She has used many techniques to create a life of growth, strength and stability. We learn the why, the how andthe detailsof our current 21 day Breath, Stretch and Play reset. Listen, enjoy and share!Connect with AmandaInstagramJoin the PAC and learn how to set

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22:35

How Many Calories Do you Need?

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/02/03

How many Calories do you need?No matter which we you swing it, calories will always be the biggest variable when it comes to fat loss and muscle gain. How can we calculate how many we need and whats the deal with macronutrients? In this episode I give you a great place to start and some simple/helpful things to think about when improving your nutritional program. Enjoy!Join the PAC and learn how to set yourself up for success, one habit at a time.Welcome to the Pac, please make sure you subscribe

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39:44

The new RACE program at PHAROS and the emergence of...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/01/29

This week I sit down with our GM of PHAROS REDONDO Eric Libardoni and discuss our exciting new RACE program. What it is, how it rolls and where it fits in our broad hybrid programming at the club. With so many of our athletes competing in the upcoming HYROX in Vegas it felt like a great time to take a deep dive….Eric’s is one of the fittest guys I know , and after years competing in CrossFit he has added a new sport to his roster. He has great in-site in to what this new class has done for him, how

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27:13

HYROX, CrossFit, Bodybuilding & the New Build Cycle

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/01/20

This week Piet dives in to the new BUILD Cycle and puts it in context of the evolution and current trends in fitness. Great one for everyone jumping in to the cycle, everyone who is considering it (both in house or remotely) and anyone who has a general interest in fitness and programming.Join the PAC and learn how to set yourself up for success, one habit at a time.Welcome to the Pac, please make sure you subscribe wherever you are listening to this show and if you loved this show please leave us a

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