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PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden

Pharos Echo Park

Welcome to the PAC Talkwhere we help you explore your capacity to move better, push further and achieve your limitless potential through fitness, nutrition, recovery, and lifestyle. I’m your host Pieter Vodden, co-owner of PHAROS Athletic Club in Echo Park. Thanks for tuning in and Welcome To The PAC!”Welcome to the Pac, please make sure you subscribe wherever you are listening to this show and if you loved this show please leave us a 5 star review in the iTunes store. It is the currency of podcasts

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18:27

Breaking Generational Patterns Around Food Education...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/09/19

In this episode of Pac Talk, Emylee Vodden dives deep into how we talk to kids about food—and how those conversations shape their relationship with health for life. What starts as a heartbreaking moment with a five-year-old worried about “getting fat” turns into a powerful reflection on breaking generational cycles of diet culture, shame, and restriction. Emylee shares her framework for sustainable nutrition—fuel × joy × results—and explores how parents (and adults re-parenting their inner child)

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24:43

Coaching in Crisis: What the Industry Forgot

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/09/12

Piet Vodden breaks down what “coaching” really means in 2025—how we got from big-box machines to CrossFit’s barbell revolution, and now to the hybrid model that blends functional bodybuilding, conditioning, running clubs, and community. Piet explains why great coaching is a learned craft: commanding a room, progressing skills safely, creating energy, and delivering results without burning people out. Piet breaks down the lost art of group coaching, the difference between PT and group leadership, and

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56:34

Impact Over Influence: Andrea Marcum on Yoga,...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/09/05

In this episode of Pac Talk, Emylee Vodden sits down with her longtime mentor Andrea Marcum—yoga teacher, retreat leader, and author of Close to Om. Andrea shares her 20+ years of experience in yoga and fitness, from running a grassroots LA studio to leading transformative retreats in Bali, Italy, Mexico, and beyond. Together, they explore the power of curiosity, resilience, and community in sustaining a long career in health and wellness.Emylee and Andrea reflect on their own origin story, how a

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18:46

The Sacrifices of Fitness: Hybrid Training, Longevity...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/08/29

On this solo episode of Pac Talk, Pieter Vodden dives deep into the reality of sacrifice in fitness. What does it take to be great at one discipline—and what do you give up along the way? From bodybuilding to Hyrox, half marathons, endurance hikes, and strength training, Piet shares how he balances competing priorities while still preserving muscle, family time, and long-term health.At 47, Piet has learned that the real key isn’t chasing perfection in one lane but building general physical

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15:28

Procrastination and Shame: How to Break the Cycle

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/08/22

Procrastination isn’t a time‑management problem—it’s an emotion‑management one. In this solo episode, I unpack how shame fuels the procrastination loop and why “I’ll do it tomorrow” keeps us stuck. (This framing comes from researcher Tim Pychyl’s work showing procrastination is about regulating feelings, not calendars.) I walk through a simple “Head, Heart, or Hands” check to pinpoint what’s really blocking action—overthinking (head), emotional resistance (heart), or missing tools/skills/environment

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43:48

From CrossFit to Head Coach: Shepherd Tate on...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/08/15

In this episode of PAC Talk, Piet sits down with longtime friend and first-ever PAC coach, Shepherd Tate. From his early CrossFit days in Memphis to becoming Head Coach at Pharos Athletic Club, Shep shares the journey, lessons, and philosophy that shape his approach to programming, coaching, and community building. They dive into the evolution of PAC’s training model, the importance of progressive overload, injury recovery insights, and how the 30-60-90 plan keeps members engaged and improving

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1:12:34

From Venice to the Mountains: Paul Fetter’s Journey...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/08/12

In this episode of PAC Talk, I sit down with fitness industry legend Paul Fetters to talk about a lifetime in bodybuilding, business, and the pursuit of sustainable health. From training at the iconic Gold’s Gym during bodybuilding’s golden era to pioneering personal training, launching semi-private training studios, and building a nationwide nutrition program, Paul shares the lessons that kept him thriving for decades. Hear stories of Arnold-era Venice Beach, competing in 44 bodybuilding shows,

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9:41

Lead with Light: The Final Anchor of The PAC Perspective

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/08/08

In the final installment of our PAC Perspective Anchors series, Piet and Emylee dive into their favorite core value: Lead with Light — to be the best part of someone’s day.Rooted in the origins of the Pharos lighthouse, this anchor is about showing up with intention, positivity, and human connection. It’s not just about reps and sets — it’s about smiling when people walk through the door, offering unexpected compliments, celebrating small wins, and being radically present.Piet shares how the

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12:48

PAC Perspective Anchors Series: Move With Purpose

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/08/01

In this episode of PAC Talk, we (Piet and Emylee) break down the second anchor of our PAC Perspective series: Move With Purpose—Anticipate the Need. This anchor is at the heart of everything we do at Pharos Athletic Club, from how we train to how we lead.We talk about what it means to act with intention and develop intuition, how quality beats speed, and why humility and awareness are non-negotiables in our space. Whether you’re lifting, coaching, leading, or learning, this one’s for you. We dive

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15:49

PAC Perspective Anchors Series: Show Up to Build Others

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/07/18

Welcome to the first episode of our PAC Perspective Anchors series on PAC Talk, hosted by Pieter Vodden and Emylee Covell. This episode breaks down the first core anchor that defines the culture at Pharos Athletic Club: "Show Up to Build Others."From pandemic parking-lot workouts to creating an unshakable tribe of support, Piet and Emylee unpack what it means to lead by example, cultivate community, and build a gym culture rooted in effort, accountability, and human connection.Whether you're a

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30:31

Resilience When It Hurts: How to Keep Going When...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/07/04

What does it really mean to be resilient—not when things are easy, but when life is actively falling apart? In this powerful episode of Pac Talk, Piet Vodden and Emylee Cavell get honest about the emotional, financial, and physical weight of building something meaningful from scratch. From personal struggles and $2 million in debt to opening four gym locations without big corporate backing, this is the behind-the-scenes story of grit, growth, and grit again.Together, they break down the three

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11:54

The Strong Summer Survival Guide: How to Stay Fit,...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/06/27

How do you stay healthy, grounded, and strong when summer throws your routine off track?In this episode of PAC Talk, Pieter Vodden and Emylee Cavell share their real-world travel tips—from road tripping with kids to staying fit without a gym. They reveal how they personally navigate vacation workouts, nutrition on the go, and family time without letting it all fall apart.Plus, they introduce the PAC Travel Guide—a free resource packed with at-home workouts, mobility videos, nutrition strategies, and

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24:19

10 Things We Learnt from The Limitless Challenge

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/06/20

This week, I sit down and discuss the top 10 lessons I learned from this year’s Limitless Challenge. How did people lose so much fat, gain so much muscle, and improve their lives? We always learn as much as we teach because the challenge is a collection of individualized experiences. Everybody goes through their own set of obstacles and wins, and the information and data we get back helps us better prepare for the future — maybe through correlation, maybe through inspiration, maybe through

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13:15

How to Measure Wins On (and Off) The Scale

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/06/13

In this episode of Pac Talk, Pieter and Emylee Vodden share the real metrics that matter when it comes to progress—beyond just the number on the scale. After working with 75 people over a six-week challenge, Pieter and Emylee Vodden, reflects on what actually leads to meaningful transformation. From energy levels and mood to sleep, hunger cues, and performance, this episode helps you redefine what a “win” looks like. Plus, they break down six essential habits for long-term success, and explores how

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56:39

Burn It Down to Start Again: John Kim & Pieter Vodden...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/06/06

This week, I sit down with John Kim—aka The Angry Therapist. John is a therapist and author currently working on his seventh book. This is our fifth podcast together, and I think it’s our best yet. John was one of the first people I met in L.A. and my first roommate in the U.S. We’ve both been on a journey that’s led to a natural fork in the road. New beginnings are on the horizon after an unforeseeable tragedy. But sometimes, light comes from darkness—and what we thought was the end is really just

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13:17

How to Actually Build (or Break) a Habit: Systems for...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/05/30

In this week’s Limitless Challenge call, Emylee Vodden walks you through a powerful framework for habit formation, inspired by Atomic Habits by James Clear. Whether you're trying to build a morning routine, save money, or finally ditch the doom scroll, this episode helps you get clear on the “structured how.” Learn how to make good habits obvious, attractive, easy, and satisfying — and break bad ones by reversing the formula. Plus, Emylee shares real-life examples from her own journey and the

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13:01

Caloric Deficit Explained: Why You’re Not Losing Fat...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/05/23

Most people think they’re in a caloric deficit… until they realize they’re not. In this clip from the Limitless Challenge weekend call, I break down what a true caloric deficit actually looks like, why it’s essential for fat loss, and how to track it without obsessing over every bite. If you’ve hit a plateau or are frustrated by your results, this might be the missing piece. Let’s make sure the work you’re putting in is actually getting you closer to your goals.Welcome to the Pac, please make sure

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11:54

Excuses vs. Truth: How to Rewrite the Story and...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/05/16

Emylee here back once again! This week, I’m sharing something personal from inside the Limitless Challenge—a practice I’ve been using to call out the quiet, sneaky stories I tell myself that hold me back. Stories like “I have no time,” “I have no self-control,” or “I don’t finish what I start.” Sound familiar?In this episode, I walk through how I’ve been learning to separate story from truth—and how that shift is helping me take real action toward the life I want. If you’ve ever felt stuck in shame,

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13:30

What is The Laziest Version of you Willing To Do with...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/05/09

In today’s episode, I’m stepping in as your guest host, Emylee Vodden.We don’t fail because we’re lazy—we fail because we build routines that only work when we’re at our best. In this episode, I’m flipping that script. What’s the laziest version of you still willing to do? That’s where the real change happens. Whether it’s drinking water before coffee, hitting your step count even on a rough day, or having go-to meals prepped, we’re talking about building bare minimum habits that still move you

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53:55

Fast Track Results and Make Them Last - 6 Week...

PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden ·

2025/04/15

We’re excited to introduce the Limitless Challenge—a six-week coaching program we designed to help you reach your fitness and nutrition goals in a sustainable, community-driven way.This recording is from our Limitless Challenge onboarding call this weekend. We dive into why we created this challenge, the kinds of people we built it for, and how our own experiences—Pieter’s background in personal training and Emylee’s holistic approach to wellness—influenced the structure of the program. We talk

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