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PODCAST

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr

Brenna Clarke Gray and Joe Lipsett

A weekly podcast about young adult literature, their film and television adaptations and everything in between. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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39:36

Uproar (2023)

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/06/24

Brenna and Joe check out coming of age film Uproar (2023), directed by Paul Middleditch andHamish Bennett and written by Bennett and Sonia Whiteman.The 80s-set New Zealand movie follows Josh (Julian Dennison), a Maori boy who becomes politically engaged when his small town hosts a South African rugby club during Apartheid. It is an unintentionally timely text considering the recent wave of protests and the reticence of older people to get involved.Plus: Minnie Driver and Rhys Darby stunt casting,

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32:09

Hello, Goodbye, and Everything In Between

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/06/17

It's easy, breezy time as Brenna and Joe check out our first Jennifer E. Smith text with Hello, Goodbye, and Everything in Between (2015) and Michael Lewen's 2022 Netflix adaptation.This feels like a classic first year HKHS combo: a beach-read book and an enjoyably slight romantic film, anchored by likeable leads. We're especially shocked at the negative reviews for the latter!Plus: our fave stops on the tour, Jordan Fisher's music, Joe's frustration with book Clare, and a surprising film

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4:09

Book Club Announcement: June 20 Reminder & July's Pick

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/06/10

A quick reminder that your responses to Sarah Dessen's Just Listen is due Friday, June 20.And also: the announcement of our July 2025 selection, which is Kacen Callender's Felix Ever After (2018). If you wanna read along, the due date for responses for July is Friday, July 18.Wanna connect with the show? Follow us on Instagram and BlueSky @HKHSPod or use the hashtag #HKHSPod:> Brenna: @brennacgray> Joe: @bstolemyremote(Instagram) or @joelipsett (BlueSky)Have a mail bag question? Email us at

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42:06

Inkheart

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/06/03

Thanks to listener requests, Brenna and Joe dig into the fantasy world of Cornelia Funke's Inkheart and its 2008 film adaptation starring Brendan Fraser.It's...not what we expected. In addition to less driving, Joe wanted more fantasy, while Brenna wanted more famous characters.Possible reasons this didn't connect for us: translation issues and the revelation that it may have been meant to be read aloud at bedtime!Plus: Helen Mirren doing Judy Dench, obvious sequel set-up, our interest in Fenoglio

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3:59

Book Club Announcement: Just Listen (June 2025)

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/05/27

At the request of Miriam, we're re-starting Book Club! Our first pick is Sarah Dessen's Just Listen (2006), which concerns rape and eating disorders (C/W). In order to proceed, we need your thoughts! Send us an email response at hkhspod@gmail.com before June 20th! Follow us on Instagram and BlueSky @HKHSPod or use the hashtag #HKHSPod:> Brenna: @brennacgray> Joe: @bstolemyremote(Instagram) or @joelipsett (BlueSky)Have a mail bag question? Email us at hkhspod@gmail.com Theme music: Letra “Like

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38:19

Adolescence (2025)

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/05/20

Brenna and Joe tackle the buzzy four episode Netflix limited series Adolescence (2025).Created by Jack ThorneandStephen Graham(with all episodes directed byPhilip Barantini), the show has drawn raves for its single long take format and outstanding acting.But what's missing from the discussion? Does it earn the acclaim? And what should a potential S02 look like? Let's discuss! Wanna connect with the show? Follow us on Instagram and BlueSky @HKHSPod or use the hashtag #HKHSPod:> Brenna:

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4:45

Mailbag 43: Olympic & Lottery Winners

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/05/13

Brenna and Joe have a quick conversation about Miriam's email regarding the stark realities of Olympic winners, with a quick comparison to lottery winners. Wanna connect with the show? Follow us on Instagram and BlueSky @HKHSPod or use the hashtag #HKHSPod:> Brenna: @brennacgray> Joe: @bstolemyremote(Instagram) or @joelipsett (BlueSky)Have a mail bag question? Email us at hkhspod@gmail.com Theme music: Letra “Like A Bird” Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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30:58

The Fire Inside (2024)

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/05/06

Brenna and Joe return to inspirational sports movies with The Fire Inside (2024), but this is secretly two movies in one! The first is the story of Clarissa "T-Rex" Shields fighting for boxing gold at the Olympics; the second is what happens upon her return to Flint, Michigan.Anchored by two stellar performances from Ryan Destiny and Brian Tyree Henry, we prefer the second, more interesting movie and speculate the stronger film that could have been if writer Barry Jenkins and director Rachel

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9:53

Mailbag 42: Comic Adaptations and Kids on Screen

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/04/29

We're back with a fresh Mailbag courtesy of Sophie and Tea, Books and Chocolate. First up: a question about the popularity of comic adaptations of books such as <gulp> the After series?! Then, a response about the recent Quiet on Set episode which further complicates the issue of kids working in entertainment.Wanna connect with the show? Follow us on Instagram and BlueSky @HKHSPod or use the hashtag #HKHSPod:> Brenna: @brennacgray> Joe: @bstolemyremote(Instagram) or @joelipsett

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37:36

Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV (2024)

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/04/22

Thanks to a prompt from listener Victoria, we're checking out Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV (2024), the five part docuseries exposing harmful working conditions on Nickelodeon shows in the early 2000s.It's grim to say the least, not just for survivors like Drake Bell, but broadly speaking all of media that employs children. Should we even be watching this kind of content? Cue the existential crisis!Wanna connect with the show? Follow us on Instagram and BlueSky @HKHSPod or use the hashtag

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32:58

Rez Ball (2024)

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/04/08

We're checking out director Sydney Freeland's Indigenous basketball movie, Rez Ball (2024). C/W: suicide (off-screen)Co-written by Reservation Dogs' Sterlin Harjo, this underdog feel-good sports film does exactly what you expect and not much else (Prompting another round of "it's fine, why does it need to be more?"). Still, at nearly 2 hours, Joe wishes there was stronger character work and Brenna is frustrated by the mother character's incomplete arc.Plus: Navajo language, beautiful New Mexico

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43:13

Uglies

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/03/25

Brenna and Joe return with their first book to film adaptation episode with a discussion of Scott Westerfeld's 2005 dystopian novel Uglies and the long delayed 2024 film adaptation by McG.This is...a miss. The book has extremely shallow commentary and has editing issues, while the film has (yes) ugly CGI hoverboard action and an unconvincing love interest. And then there's Laverne Cox as a villain who forces children to undergo surgery, which is just unfortunate considering the current political

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34:01

Bonus Track (2023) feat. Conrad Chambers

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/03/11

Brenna and Joe are joined by Conrad Chambers, Joe's co-host from The Queer Gaze podcast, to discuss 2023 UK gay coming of age film Bonus Track.It's a little bit slight, albeit full of charming performances and nicely fills the gap left by Heartstopper and Sex Education.Plus: nepo babies, a Josh O'Connor cameo, and confusion about the period setting.Wanna connect with the show? Follow us on Instagram and BlueSky @HKHSPod or use the hashtag #HKHSPod:> Brenna: @brennacgray> Joe:

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18:55

Mailbag 41: Heartstopper's Tara & Darcy, Banned Book...

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/03/07

Brenna and Joe are back for another mailbag, with recommendations from Tea, Books and Chocolate, gentle criticism about Heartstopper S03 and a call to action from Miriam, and request for coverage about child actor exploitation on set from Victoria.Want to recommend a book or participate in a new iteration of Banned Book Club? Contribute your suggestions in this open Google Doc: https://tinyurl.com/mryhx96a!Wanna connect with the show? Follow us on Instagram and BlueSky @HKHSPod or use the hashtag

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33:13

My Old Ass (2024)

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/02/25

Brenna and Joe return to discuss My Old Ass (2024), our second Megan Park text (after The Fallout).Don't let the title put you off! This is an extremely sweet and charming coming of age film, although as listener Spencer wondered: is this more for millennials than actual teens?We tackle the question, as well as the hilarious reverse "coming out" scene, which parts made us cry, and why we hope Park continues to surround herself with female talent to tell more stories about girlhood.Wanna connect with

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38:48

Heartstopper S03 (2024)

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/02/11

Brenna and Joe continue their tradition of covering Heartstopper with a look at S03.We discuss how creator Alice Oseman tackles Charlie's eating disorder and treatment, the absence of Olivia Colman, and look ahead to the fourth (and final) season.Plus: concerns about Darcy and Tara's subplot, wanting Nick's growth to continue, how the season adapts a multiplicity of texts, and, oh yeah, A LOT of crying.Wanna connect with the show? Follow us on Instagram and BlueSky @HKHSPod or use the hashtag

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28:53

Mailbag: Redwall! Queer Sex! Libraries!

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/01/28

Brenna and Joe return to tackle two emails from the Mailbag:1) Tea, Books & Chocolate wrote about a prolific series called Redwall by Brian Jacques, which spun into a conversation about romance novel Canadian Boyfriend by Jenny Holiday and full cast audiobooks.2) Maddy wrote in about queer sex - specifically in Heartstopper, but also a recommendation for Beating Heart Baby by Lio Min. This resulted in Brenna and Joe getting on our soapbox about why dominant majority book readers need to butt out

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10:03

S07 Begins

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2025/01/14

Brenna and Joe kick off HKHS Pod S07 with a few updates, including a revised schedule and an altered format for the time being. Let's just say we were a touch ambitious!Plus: details on Brenna's mat leave, the adjustment to having two kids, and why we need more Mailbag items!Wanna connect with the show? Follow us on Instagram and BlueSky @HKHSPod or use the hashtag #HKHSPod:> Brenna: @brennacgray> Joe: @bstolemyremote(Instagram) or @joelipsett (BlueSky)Have a mail bag question? Email us at

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30:10

The Afterlife of Holly Chase (2017)

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2024/12/17

Brenna and Joe are back for a special holiday bonus episode on Cynthia Hand's The Afterlife of Holly Chase (2017).The novel is very enjoyable, imminently readable, and surprising - which is nice considering it could have just been a simple Scrooge tale.Plus: colourful supporting characters, a great romance that's not the point, and why hasn't this been turned into a movie?!Wanna connect with the show? Follow us on Instagram and BlueSky @HKHSPod or use the hashtag #HKHSPod:> Brenna: @brennacgray

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1:01

Holiday Episode Tease...

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr ·

2024/12/10

Watch out for falling hammers because Brenna and Joe are back next Tuesday for a special holiday episode on Cynthia Hand's utterly delightful Scrooge tale, The Afterlife of Holly Chase (2017). Get reading!Wanna connect with the show? Follow us on Instagram and BlueSky @HKHSPod or use the hashtag #HKHSPod:> Brenna: @brennacgray (BlueSky/Instagram)> Joe: @bstolemyremote(Twitter/Instagram) or @joelipsett (BlueSky)Have a mail bag question? Email us at hkhspod@gmail.com Theme music: Ben Fox "Think

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