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Get A Grip On Lighting Podcast

Get A Grip On Lighting

Recognizing a need in the lighting industry to forum together and discuss subjects & issues in our industry, the Get A Grip On Lighting Podcast was born. Get A Grip brings on industry experts to talk about real issues and focused on that subject matter. If there’s something to be said on the subject, Get A Grip will go there. Get A Grip On Lighting Podcasts are hosted by Michael Colligan and Greg Ehrich, who have over 30 years of combined experience in the lighting industry. Michael

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Episode 502: #408 - Emergency Lighting Doesn't Matter...

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2025/06/30

In this episode of Get a Grip on Lighting, hosts Michael Colligan and Greg Ehrich dive into the ever-important topic of emergency lighting and exit signage. From battery packs to combo units and LED emergency backup tubes, they explore the evolving landscape and the challenges distributors face when retrofitting or maintaining systems. They emphasize the critical importance of separating emergency systems from general lighting, and share real-world examples where overlooking proper

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Episode 501: #407 - The Customer Service Role

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2025/06/23

In this eye-opening and unscripted episode, Mike and Greg peel back the curtain on one of the most underappreciated parts of the lighting industry—customer service. From misfit lightbulbs and warranty nightmares to dremel-happy customers and failing retrofits in century-old churches, no story is too strange and no frustration is off-limits. Whether it’s juggling returns, handling broken bulbs, or chasing down elusive manufacturer answers, these two veterans tackle it all with grit, humor,

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Episode 500: #406 - Living in the Light, You’ve Got...

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2025/06/16

🚀 On the latest episode of Get a Grip on Lighting, Matt Honson, President of NAILD, dives into the evolution of lighting distribution, industry education, and the urgent need for transparency in product labeling and eco-fee schemes. - Why collaboration among independent distributors strengthens the industry - Why integrity comes natural when you are living in the light - There shouldn’t be anything to hide when you are working in the non-profit sector and charging the lighting industry for

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Episode 499: #405 - The Post Rebate Zombie Apocalypse

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2025/06/02

Join Michael Colligan and Greg Ehrich on Get a Grip on Lighting as they dive into the evolving lighting industry in 2025. With rebates disappearing and competition tightening, distributors must rethink their approach. Michael highlights a unique opportunity in repairable fixtures—bringing back the distributor's original role of providing lighting components instead of simply selling new fixtures. Greg shares real-world examples of retrofitting LED purpose-built fixtures with socketed

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Episode 498: #404 - Artificial Intelligence

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2025/05/27

In this episode, we sit down with Taresh Grover, co-founder and COO of Pullogic, an AI-powered platform transforming supply chains. From predicting demand to optimizing inventory, AI is revolutionizing distribution—especially in the lighting industry. Taresh shares insights on how AI helps manufacturers and distributors reduce lost sales by forecasting demand and making smarter replenishment decisions in real time. He also dives into common challenges lighting businesses face and how

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Episode 497: #403 - Lighting is the Original...

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2025/05/19

The podcast features Elizabeth Chamberlain, Director of Sustainability at iFixit, discussing the Right to Repair movement and its impact on the lighting industry. Traditionally, lighting was designed with standardized, replaceable components, ensuring easy repairs. However, modern LED fixtures often have non-repairable parts, leading to more electronic waste. Liz explains iFixit's mission to provide free repair guides and advocate for laws requiring manufacturers to support independent

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Episode 496: #402 - Data-Driven Buildings: Why...

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2025/05/05

Lighting controls are no longer a nice-to-have—they’re fast becoming the backbone of smart, energy-efficient buildings. In this episode, Michael Colligan and Greg Ehrich sit down with Scott Metker, COO of Autani, to explore how the convergence of lighting, HVAC, and data is transforming the built environment.From the rise of wireless and hybrid systems to the untapped potential of demand reduction and data-driven decision-making, this conversation sheds light on what’s next for building

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Episode 495: #401 - Product Labeling and the "Deep...

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2025/04/30

In this explosive discussion, Devin Wall returns to break down the deep-state influence in the lighting industry—focusing on tariffs, accreditation agencies, and the power dynamics shaping the market. 🔦 Key Topics Covered: - Why Devin supports tariffs & U.S.-based manufacturing - The real role of accreditation agencies (like DLC) - How non-player characters are controlling lighting policies - Is the DLC helping or hurting lighting innovation? - Why rebates dictate product

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Episode 494: #400 - Mastering Lighting Controls: The...

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2025/04/28

In this episode of Get a Grip on Lighting, we sit down with Webster Marsh, host of the Lighting Controls Podcast, and Lighting Specialist in Controls instructor, to talk about the exciting future of lighting controls certification and why the industry desperately needs certified professionals. 💡 Key Topics Discussed: - Why the demand for lighting controls expertise is growing now more than ever. - How rebate programs are shaping the market and driving controls adoption. - The LC-C

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Episode 493: #399 - Direct Install Rebate Programs...

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2025/04/23

In this compelling episode of Get a Grip on Lighting, Spencer Myles and Brian Amundson dive deep into the complexities of the lighting industry, exposing the challenges posed by rebate programs, direct install initiatives, and shifting market dynamics.✨ Key Topics Discussed:The unintended consequences of rebate programs and how they can harm distributors. The rise of direct install programs—who benefits and who loses out? "Deep State" analogies in the lighting world and their impact on

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Episode 492: #398 - Selling Lighting Without Rebates

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2025/04/14

Our old friend Mark Jewell joins us to talk about selling in the lighting industry—especially as rebates begin to dry up. A lot of people are worried about what the end of rebate programs will mean for project sales. Mark says we shouldn’t be. Michael and Greg aren’t so sure. In this episode, Mark talks us down off the “rebate ledge” with some sensible math. Rebates are great, but they’re not the only reason to upgrade. With real-world examples, he explains how energy savings, increased

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Episode 491: #397 - Understanding Extended Producer...

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2025/04/07

For this episode, we hoped to welcome Brian Bastien of Product Care Recycling to discuss Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) Programs and their impact on the lighting industry. The President of NAILD reached out—non-profit to non-profit—to open a conversation about how these programs support sustainability and what they mean for lighting distributors. Surprisingly, every expert we invited declined the opportunity to join us. That’s a first for us, as the lighting industry has always

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Episode 490: #396 - Not a Time to Coast

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2025/04/01

Jason knows so much about lighting that he wrote 2 books on the subject (see below). Jason chats with Michael and Greg about his books, wasteful lighting fixtures, the circular economy, and wired and wireless controls. And for pete's sake, don’t go with flat panels if there are better choices. Jason Livingston LC, IES, IALD is the principal of Studio T+L, a lighting design and theatre planning firm in Brooklyn, NY. His lighting design portfolio ranges from offices to churches and from

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Episode 489: #395 - Oil, Tobacco, and the Lighting...

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2025/03/25

You’ve seen Dr. Motta on Restoring Darkness (https://restoringdarkness.com/episode/120-blue-light-leds-are-an-immune-suppressor-proven-to-cause-cancer-dr-mario-motta) now he’s on Get a Grip on Lighting to tell you about the hazards of blue-rich LED’s. No matter how some might push back, the evidence is irrefutable: blue light LED’s suppress melatonin which can lead to cancer. When Dr. Motta’s and the American Medical Association’s report was released in 2016, the Lighting Deep State was

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Episode 488: #394 - Flipping The Bird

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2025/03/17

Put your preconceptions and biases aside, Mark baker is going to point the finger a little in this episode. LED’s can be harmful to humans - Mark being one of them - and the industry needs to recognize this, step up, and address the problem. Admittedly, as Michael says, the lighting industry got steamrolled by the LED revolution, but now it’s time to get back up on our feet and to be a part of the solution.Mark Baker is the President of The Soft Light Foundation, a non-profit organization

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Episode 487: #393 - NEMRA Lighting Division

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2025/03/10

Jeffrey brings a lot of experience to his position as Divisional Vice President in the NEMRA Lighting Division. This division was formed recently when AAILA, the American Association of Independent Lighting Agencies, was integrated into NEMRA. Michael points out that in the past, he has seen lighting nonprofits absorbed into electrical associations where they have become very secondary. Jeffrey points out that NEMRA’s goal is to strengthen that division. So everybody wins. Jeff Bristol is

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Episode 486: #392 - New Construction vs. Retrofit

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2025/03/03

Hey distributors. Are you selling emergency lighting? If not, this episode with Heather McCune might change your mind. Barron has seen ROI of under a year with their Exitronix Guardian G3 on all their retrofit jobs. This system reduces maintenance, labor hours, and interruptions to building power during testing. It can even self-test and back up the data so you’ll have proof of testing for those surprise safety inspections. Heather McCune is a dynamic and experienced leader in the lighting

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Episode 485: #391 - I Want It All And I Want It Now

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2025/02/24

Jason wants it all - now. But he also says, be careful what you wish for. In this competitive environment, don’t just take any job. Jason is competitive and doesn’t like to lose but, as he says, you don’t want to win a race to the bottom. Then the only way you’re going to make money is if all the stars align and nothing goes wrong on the project. So despite the title, there are some things you don’t want. Over the last 19 years Jason has been a leader in providing turn-key retrofits

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Episode 484: #390 - Tariff Talk

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2025/02/10

As of this recording, the US has backed off on tariffs, for now. But they still loom as a possibility sometime in the future. Michael gives his perspective from the viewpoint of Canada, while Greg and Spencer look at it from a “what’s best for America” standpoint. Can’t we all just get along? Spencer Miles first appeared on Get a Grip On Lighting way back in 2017 on episode #4. He is the President of Pacific Lamp and Supply Company where he has worked for 24 years of Pacific Lamp’s over 100

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Episode 483: #389 - The Man Behind The Curtain

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2025/02/03

You’ve heard him on Monday mornings. You’ve seen his work quarterly. We pull back the curtain on Scott Wachter to take a look behind the scenes at his work on the Lighting Industry News Brief, Today’s Lighting Distributor, and The Darkness News Update (on RestoringDarkness.com). Beyond his work as the best-informed person in the lighting industry, he’s part of the content management team; keeping the social feeds up to date, co-authoring Today’s Lighting Distributor, developing courses for

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