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Refin" It Up

Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

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01:29:23

Impact Player: Joe Coffey

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2025/06/18

This week Joe Coffey has alot to talk about after being released by WWE last month. In addition to that Joe talks about coming up in Scotland and wrestling for ICW in Glasgow and becoming their champion on two occasions. During his time off from the business Joe has been training with Bobby Fish in his gym so he is ready when he receives the call from the company that wants to sign him to their roster. All this and so much more on this weeks episode!!! Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE,

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02:11:23

Refin AF with Gabby LasPisa

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2025/06/12

Gabby LasPisa got involved with wrestling right out of college when she became a part time producer for Fight Nation on Sirius XM. Not knowing anything about the three sports she was producing shows for she began to pay attention more to some of the shows that made her fall in love with wrestling. Gabby quickly rose in the ranks with Busted Open eventually becoming a full time producer. After many years with Sirius XM she was let go from the company and found herself at a crossroads in her life.

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01:45:09

There Is A Herro

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2025/06/04

David Herro has been a pivotal person in the wrestling business for over 20 years. He joins us this week to talk about his outstanding career and so many great stories and moments throughout. Lastly, Dave talks about his documentary that will be out soon called “The Herro’s Journey” A Pro Wrestling Story. All this and so much more this week on Refin It Up. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG

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01:17:03

Refin Rewatch: Chris Jericho vs Dolph Ziggler

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2025/05/29

It’s time to bring back #RefinRewatch this week. Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel discuss the week that was in wrestling; then they watch and break down John Cone’s job in the match between Chris Jericho and Dolph Ziggler from Summer Slam 2012. Match Link https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8rkm49Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG:

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01:33:20

Refin Roundtable

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2025/05/22

We welcome back legendary referee Mike Chioda back to the show, as we have a Refin Roundtable. We talk about everything from Wrestle Mania 41 to giving referees their flowers after they do something good, and finally we talk about the current wresting referee work. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer

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01:57:07

Want the Dirt?

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2025/05/14

Want the dirt? All you will get this week is a look into the day to day of Fightful Wrestling as we welcome Sean Ross Sapp. Sean talks about starting wanting to be a sport reporter only to find the world of pro wrestling. In the world of social media Sean grew a following of wrestling fans; the good and the bad. Sean talks about some of the run ins he had with the IWC and the great things that FIghtful Wrestling is putting out. All this and so ,much moreRefin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE,

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02:00:11

What Does Everyone Want? Knowledge !!!

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2025/05/07

Al Snow is one of the best minds in all of wrestling. He stops by the show this week to talk all things OVW Wrestling and what they have coming up in the near future. Additionally, he touches on Rock’s comments from last week. Finally, Al talks about what could happen down the line for Triple H and The Rock. All this and so much more this week!!! Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy

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01:49:15

The Vampire Of Wrestling

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2025/04/30

Shelly Martinez joins us this week; as she talks about everything about her time in WWE and TNA. She also goes into detail on some of the ups and downs she encountered during her wrestling career. She got into wrestling at a very critical time in her life when wrestling gave more to her then she ever thought shed get from it. You will have to listen to this episode to find out all the details on that and so much more!!!Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG

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01:47:05

Refin Rewatch: The Streak vs Mr Wrestle Mania

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2025/04/23

We bring back Refin rewatch this week when we watch Shawn Michaels vs Undertaker from Wrestle Mania 25. However, before that we talk about the busy Wrestle Mania weekend and some of the stories that were told and continue to be told going forward. All this and our Refin Review this week. Match YouTube Link https://youtu.be/xjZkxVYBVjY?si=g1FGxFPSU67Il0HuRefin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG

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01:35:37

The Quite Storm

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2025/04/16

A storm is brewing this week as we welcome in former NWA World Heavyweight Champion Tim Storm to the show. Tim takes time to sit down with us to talk about winning the NWA Title from Jax Dane and then ultimately tagging with Jax until his sudden passing. Tim goes into depth on what went into being the face of the NWA as its champion and working with some great men in the ring. He also talks about the impact that Nick Aldis had on him and on the company while Tim was working with him for the

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01:45:09

Let's Make A Deal

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2025/04/09

It’s time to make a deal this week as we welcome the current color commentator for the NWA Danny Dealz to the show. Being a pivatol point in TNA back in the day taught Dany Dealz a lot; so much that he takes some of the things he learned at TNA and applied it to his current work with the NWA. Danny does go into detail on the current state of the NWA is and the crucial things Billy Gorgon went through as he got older. He lastly talks about all the jobs he currently has and how to go about. Refin

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02:09:17

Refin Rewind: Matthew Rehwoldt

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2025/04/02

This week we take you back to an episode we did on December 4, 2024 when we welcomed current TNA color commentator Matthew Rehwoldt to the show. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay

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01:51:08

Weapon of Sass Destruction

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2025/03/26

Effy is in fact real as he joins us this week on the show. The current GCW Heavyweight Champion talks shop with Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel about starting in the business and continuing to this day to work across the world. Effy is one of the most unique characters in wrestling current; he talks about the creation of the character as well as working with Hootie and the Blowfish. Lastly, Effy finishes talking about the dedication and passion of the GCW fans all over. All this and so much more this

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01:49:08

Refin Rewatch: John Cena vs CM Punk

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2025/03/19

Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel go back in time this week and watch live John Cena vs CM Punk from Money In The Bank 2011 in our Refin Rewatch. We also talk about the John Cena promo from Raw and express some positivity in our Refin Review.CM Punk vs John Cena MITB 2011 Match Linkhttps://www.youtube.com/live/QZb3dfX3cQA?si=1_ubWoG3r1vhHnevRefin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social

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01:56:13

It's All About The Refs

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2025/03/12

It’s time for Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike Chioda this week. Mike joins the show this week to catch up on this past weeks referee work in a special edition of Refin Review. Mike also talks about the John Cena turn, what should main event both nights of Wrestle Mania, and what he is currently doing training referees in Florida. Lastly, Mike shares some great stories from the past with Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG

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02:10:52

We All Have A Herro

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2025/03/05

We all have a hero in our lives; this week we have a hero on the show. We welcome Kal Herro to the show this week. Formally “Fanny Pack Kid” is going through a character evolution but fear not he has a great mind for the business and has many ideas of where he wants his character to go. That mind for the business was taught to him at an early age as he traveled the roads with his father, Dave Herro. Kal goes on to talk about the creation of the “Fannypack Kid”, his first match and training with

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01:44:27

Ask The Refs

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2025/02/26

We left the show up to you this week as we let you ask the refs anything. Before we did that Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel talk about some of the possible storylines leading into Wrestle Mania. We also touch in the rumor of Vince McMahon possibly starting a new wrestling promotion. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel

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02:10:03

The Legend: Earl Hebner

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2025/02/19

The Hall of Famer Earl Hebner joins the show this week to talk shop with Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel. Before Earl was in WWE he was reffing in the NWA and learning a lot from Tommy Young. Earl also goes into depth on how important Dusty Rhodes was on his career. The WWE Hall of Fame is the one thing that has alluded Earl, but he talks about what he would do if he got the phone call and who he would want to induct him. Earl lastly talks about the jobs that Triple H and Shawn Michaels have been

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02:02:06

End All, Be It All

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2025/02/12

Jonny Loquasto is the definition of doing all you can do to learn as much as possible. So when the time comes for you to take the next step up, you can make a splash. In addition to that Jonny talks about how timing is everything; and explains how that has hurt him and more importantly helped him in his career. Jonny additionally talks about how he got into stand up comedy before getting a call from WWE to come to work for them. Through the ups and downs in the company Jonny enjoyed his time

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02:13:11

The OVW Effect in Basham Style

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2025/02/05

It’s time to bash em this week as we welcome in current OVW National Heavyweight Champion Doug Basham. Before heading into his title match this Saturday against Dustin Jackson at “Tough Love” Doug stopped by the show to talk about current wrestling at OVW, WWE and beyond . While in WWE, Doug was challenged by some of the boys and Vince McMahon to make sure certain things didn’t happen during a Tough Enough challenge on Smackdown. He breaks down how it went and how it ultimately ended, in a good

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