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The Rest Is Money

Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories. Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing business funding, economic policies, or corporate strategies, they provide listeners with the tools to

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234. Is GB Energy Starmer’s missing growth plan?

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2025/12/15

How is GB Energy building a third of Britain's daily energy requirements? Can it hit the government’s clean energy target? And how is it creating high skilled jobs and new cutting edge businesses?Steph and Robert find out from the chair of Great British Energy, Jürgen Maier - the former government advisor and CEO of Siemens

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233. The Trump Doctrine: Why Europe Is Failing & Who...

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2025/12/11

What are the economic and business consequences for Europe of Trump’s National Security Strategy? How is the US president shaping Hollywood’s future as Netflix and Paramount fight for ownership of Warner Bros? And who is missing from the major conflict negations needed for peace and economic prosperity? Robert and Steph assess the impact of the latest manifestations of Trump’s determination to run

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232. How British AI is inventing new materials

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2025/12/08

How is AI being used to transform how we create new materials? Why did the young British AI company doing it raise most money outside the UK? How might this solve some of our biggest problems like climate change and water pollution? Following their conversation with Science Minister Sir Patrick Vallance, Robert and Steph speak to Dr Chad Edwards, the CEO and co-founder of Cusp

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231. Can The NHS Afford The UK-US Pharma Deal?

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2025/12/04

Why is the NHS paying more for new medicines? Will the government at last buy from British tech companies? How can the UK life sciences be more entrepreneurial?Lord Patrick Vallance, the government's Science, Innovation Research & Nuclear Minister (and former Chief Scientific Advisor), joins Robert and Steph to talk about trade deals, scale-up finance and how investing in the Oxford-Cambridge corridor might mean growth for the whole country. Visit: https://www.gov.uk/teachinfurthereducation

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230. Dan Neidle on how Reeves’ tax reforms will work

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2025/12/01

Why wasn’t the chancellor more radical? How will the new mileage tax for electric vehicles be collected? Is the new mansion tax fair? Robert and Steph deconstruct the budget with tax expert Dan Neidle. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram:

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229. BUDGET BONUS: Did the Treasury Lie?

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2025/11/29

Why did the Chancellor and Treasury suggest the public finances are a disaster when they weren’t? Why did the Office for Budget Responsibility call them out? What is the true story behind the income tax u-turn. Steph and Robert discuss. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram:

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228. BUDGET SPECIAL: Where's The Growth?

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2025/11/27

Do Reeves’s budget sums add up? Who will be hurt by her tax rises? And has she put saving her job above reviving the economy? Steph and Robert discuss. Find out how Google AI is helping fuel the UK's growth and transformation at https://www.goo.gle/10stories Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X:

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227. How Economics Can Stop Us Making Stupid Choices

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2025/11/24

How can governments and businesses nudge us to change our behaviour? Are we too easily manipulated by the private sector? How do we design economic policy for the real world, not mythical perfect markets?Robert speaks to the father of behavioural economics and Nobel prize winner Richard Thaler. For investing, savings, and pensions, the smart money’s with Wealthify. Open your account today at https://www.wealthify.com. Wealthify is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority

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226. Will Labour’s Mansion Tax Backfire?

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2025/11/20

Will growth and savings be hurt by pension tax changes in the budget? Will the property market be whacked by plans to tax high value properties? How will they police a mileage tax on electric cars?Robert and Steph discuss. Find out how Google AI is helping fuel the UK's growth and transformation at https://www.goo.gle/10stories Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X:

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225. How Damaged Is Reeves By Budget Chaos?

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2025/11/17

Why have investors turned against Reeves and Starmer? Was the u-turn on the income tax rise bad economics and bad politics? How will the budget raise the £25bn still needed?Robert and Steph discuss. For investing, savings, and pensions, the smart money’s with Wealthify. Open your account today at https://www.wealthify.com.Wealthify is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. With investing, your capital is at risk. Tax treatments depend on individual circumstances and may

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224. Would Ousting Starmer Risk Economic Meltdown?

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2025/11/13

How much will a political coup against the Prime Minister affect the confidence of UK investors? Are Reform capitalising on Rachel Reeves’ negativity? Can the Treasury find enough money to solve the national scandal of deprivation against the backdrop of a £30bn fiscal black hole? Robert and Steph discuss. Get started today at https://www.HubSpot.com Find out how Google AI is helping fuel the UK's growth and transformation at https://www.goo.gle/10stories Email:

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223. Is The AI Boom Like The Great Depression Or The...

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2025/11/10

What were the series of events that led to biggest crash in Wall Street history? How does it reflect the current AI boom? Will we be left with valuable lasting infrastructure when the artificial intelligence industrial revolution eventually comes to an end?Robert speaks to Andrew Ross Sorkin, New York Times columnist and author of 1929. Get started today at https://www.HubSpot.com For investing, savings, and pensions, the smart money’s with Wealthify. Open your account today at

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222. The Four Budget Priorities For Rachel Reeves

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2025/11/06

Did the Chancellor’s pre-budget speech work? Why should she increase the basic rate of income tax? Is it time to abolish the pensioner’s triple lock?Robert asks economist Jim O’Neill about the advise he’s been giving the treasury ahead of the budget. Visit: https://www.gov.uk/teachinfurthereducation to find out more Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X:

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221. Why Reeves Should Put Up Income Tax

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2025/11/03

Can the truce between Trump and Xi hold? What should Starmer do now to prepare for the coming AI shock? And how can Reeves’s budget combine tax rises with growth stimulation?Robert talks with Mohamed El-Erian, Professor at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. Get started today at https://www.HubSpot.com For investing, savings, and pensions, the smart money’s with Wealthify. Open your account today at https://www.wealthify.com. Wealthify is authorised and regulated by

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220. How Do We Make Big Business Behave?

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2025/10/30

How can investors compel companies to pay the “real” living wage and stop selling foods that make us obese? Can anyone with a pension put pressure on businesses? Why are American fund managers so scared of Trump?Robert speaks to Catherine Howarth, Chief Executive of ShareAction, the leading European NGO that tries to make big business act responsibly. Get started today at https://www.HubSpot.com Find out how Google AI is helping fuel the UK's growth and transformation at

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219. When Do Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves?

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2025/10/27

What role can tax play in reviving the UK? Is Trump a protectionist or free trader at heart? What does the economist who inspired Truss make of her notorious budget?Robert speaks with the acclaimed economist Art Laffer about how he draws the most famous curve in economics. For investing, savings, and pensions, the smart money’s with Wealthify. Open your account today at https://www.wealthify.com. Wealthify is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. With investing, your

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218. How Do We Get Off The Escalator Of Ever Rising...

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2025/10/22

Should the budget stop the avoidance of employers’ national insurance by the UK’s highest paid professions? How does the government restore the confidence of its creditors? Are we facing a private credit crash? Robert discusses with Chief Market Strategist of JP Morgan Asset Management Europe, Karen Ward. Find out more about how Google’s AI is helping fuel the UK’s growth and transformation and read the report at goo.gle/aiworks. Email:

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217. Is Reeves To Blame For The Budget Hole?

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2025/10/19

How can Rachel Reeves deliver a budget that means she won’t have to raise taxes again next year? What would rational tax reform look like? Should this be the budget when they finally raise fuel duty in line with the escalator?Robert chats to the new Director of the IFS, Helen Miller. Find out more about how Google’s AI is helping fuel the UK’s growth and transformation and read the report at goo.gle/aiworks. Email:

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216. What Are The Jobs Of The Future?

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2025/10/15

Why have graduate job vacancies collapsed? How is AI changing how we work? How can companies become forces for good? Robert Peston chats with James Reed, author of Karma Capitalism and chair of the UK's largest digital recruitment service, Reed. Find out more about how Google’s AI is helping fuel the UK’s growth and transformation and read the report at goo.gle/aiworks. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X:

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215. How Near Is An AI Crash?

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2025/10/12

How big is the AI bubble? When it bursts, who will be hurt? What impact on jobs and wages in artificial intelligence having now?Robert discusses with Azeem Azhar, founder of Exponential View and tech investor. Find out more about how Google’s AI is helping fuel the UK’s growth and transformation and read the report at goo.gle/aiworks. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X:

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