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Talk About That

John Driver and Jonnie W., Christian Comedy Creatives

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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45:37

Family Trips, 3-Year Beards, and Self-Talk

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2025/06/05

John stays in a hiking lodge with strangers and tells us why some things are better off being dirty. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a mishap trimming his goatee and reveals the pecking order of entertainers. Plus, a conversation about Self-Talk and why your words may matter more than you think. Today's episode is not sponsored by Garage Sales: "When you really want to waste a Saturday in your driveway to make $43.00.” FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

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46:55

Guillotines, Saint Bernards, and Movies

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2025/05/29

John wants to take a long train ride and is exhausted by AI deep fake videos. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a Facebook comment that is actually helpful and makes a big splash when he reveals his very first memory from childhood. Plus, a conversation about how the movies and media we consume shape our personality and core values. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by SPF 15 Sunscreen: “When you want to be sunburned, but not right away." FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver:

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33:26

A-Listers, Interrupting Dogs, and Inspiration

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2025/05/22

John defies his GPS and begrudgingly admits his father's motto was actually pretty great. Meanwhile, Jonnie brags about his elite status on a budget airline and tells the story of the time a solar eclipse stopped a war and led to a royal wedding. Plus, a conversation about validating our feelings without always being driven by them. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Golf: "The angriest you've ever been while walking in ugly pants." FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver:

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50:24

Ghost Camels, Arranged Marriages, and Dyed Souls

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2025/05/15

John has specific instructions for his wife when he dies, and reveals his obsession with vice grip pliers. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the real villain of the Titanic movie and tells the strange story of how government-imported camels in the 1800's led to ghost sightings in Arizona. Plus, a conversation about contemplation, and the power our thoughts have over the direction of our lives. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by A Box of Old Cables in Your Garage: "Every Man Has One… and Every Man is

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44:36

Activist Sitcoms, Internet Backlash, and an Interview...

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2025/05/08

John ponders old sitcom episodes that tackled important issues (for ratings). Meanwhile, Jonnie compares himself to an old Stephen King movie and reveals the history of the cowboy hat. Plus, an exclusive interview with CCM legends, Newsboys! Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Blackout Curtains: Let Your Neighbors Know You've Updated Your Privacy Policy. FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at

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42:01

Dopamine, Extra Bread, and Complexity

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2025/05/02

John critiques the Big Mac and tries to be productive, but only if he can track it on his phone. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a decade-old video go viral and does a Maypole dance against his Mom’s wishes. Plus, a conversation about dopamine addiction and the urge to oversimplify problems that need more nuance. Today’s Episode is NOT sponsored by “Meaty Okra: The Vegetable that tastes like beef. From the makers of Tofurkey. Meaty Okra: It’s Just Okay” FOLLOW Jonnie W.:

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43:47

Elon Implants, Lottery Cheats, and Emotional Maturity

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2025/04/25

John gets invited by Jonnie to a gender reveal party for an insect and refuses to get his brain hacked by Elon Musk. Meanwhile, Jonnie thinks Abe Lincoln should’ve seen a dermatologist and tells us the history of the zipper. Plus, a conversation about emotional maturity and the right way to change someone’s mind. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by At Home Orthodontics: “Brace Yourself!” FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

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53:24

Disney Trips, Shiny Heads, and Impostor Syndrome

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2025/04/17

John tries to stop his head from shining, and tells us the illustrious history of the Slurpee. Meanwhile, Jonnie goes to a 20 year old movie, and shares the story of the time Winnie the Pooh got sued for assault. Plus, a conversation about side-hustles, impostor syndrome, and why some of our favorite people doubt their abilities. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Skim Milk: "It's better for you, mostly because there's no way you will finish drinking it." Discover more Christian podcasts at

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45:40

Movie Theaters, Magic Tricks, and Hardships

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2025/04/10

John teaches us about the history of candy and ponders growing a skullet. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a senior moment at the movie theater and tries to find out why Betty Ford danced on a table at the White House Plus, a conversation about how difficulties and trials tend to deepen our relationships. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by The Stock Market: "Like a casino, but without the free drinks!" Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at

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53:03

Roadrunner Rules, Bruce Almighty, and Main Character...

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2025/04/03

John ponders whether anyone "hate listens" to the show and makes sermon illustrations out of old cartoons. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us why the first cell phone call was used to troll a competitor and what he learned from Jim Carrey about being a comedian. Plus, a conversation about human nature, humility, and why "Main Character Energy" isn't the flex you think it is. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Gatorade: "When you want some fruit punch, but also a pound of salt." FOLLOW Jonnie W.:

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46:25

Manglers, Acai Bowls, and Integrity

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2025/03/27

John gets bougie with the sideline snacks for his daughter's volleyball game and wonders if Daniel from the Bible snuggled with the lions. Meanwhile, Jonnie gives us the strange history of the washing machine and gets intimidated at an event when he hears the list of previous keynote speakers. Plus, a conversation about virtuous leadership, honor, and the main thing George Washington got right. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Cadbury Creme Eggs: "Now almost the same price as regular eggs!”

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44:07

Secret Microphones, Escalators, and Reactionaryism

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2025/03/20

John gets secret messages in his ear during worship and ponders whether we need merch. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets interviewed by an 80's comedy icon and tells us the demographic breakdown of his fanbase. Plus, a conversation about reactionaryism, revolution, and choosing hope over fear. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Grapefruit: "If you like oranges, try their bitter, overweight cousin!" FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND

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35:19

Old Technology, Deathbed Confessions, and...

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2025/03/13

John ponders how many pics of his kid is too many and vigorously defends coconut. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals what all rock band photos have in common and finds out the terrible original name for the Girl Scouts. Plus, a conversation about The Sermon on the Mount and why it's needed now more than ever. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Restaurant To-Go Boxes: "Let the other half of your meal rot in your very own fridge!" FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver:

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49:13

Mr. Icee, Hula Hoops, and Suffering

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2025/03/06

John tells us about his short-lived career as a rapper and ponders how much protection his book would offer against a would be assassin. Meanwhile, Jonnie changes his rock band's name way too many times and tries in vain to stop a rodent infestation. Plus, a conversation about how God shapes us through pain and disappointment, and why that's actually a good thing. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Buc-ees: "You stopped here to use the restroom, and then you spent $58 on snacks." FOLLOW Jonnie W.:

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45:17

Detachable Faces, Red Carnations, and Neighbors

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2025/02/27

John reads a listener email and wishes we could be a zany Morning Zoo Radio Show. Meanwhile, Jonnie has an important retraction from last week (because he is stupid) and tells us about some wild wedding proposals on Leap Day in 13th Century Scotland. Plus, a conversation about neighbors, enemies, and America's addiction to grievance. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Driving Directions From Old People: "Less Accurate Than GPS, But Also Way More Condescending.” FOLLOW Jonnie W.:

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48:34

Memory Lanes, Grammar Police, and Certainty

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2025/02/21

John cleans out his office and gets mad at his younger self while listening to some old tapes. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us the history of the windshield wiper and the story of a man whose own hanging could not stop him from roasting the grammar of his captors. Plus, a conversation about certainty and humility—and why a clear path may not always be the best one. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by French Fries: "Delicious for exactly five minutes. Then, completely inedible." FOLLOW Jonnie W.:

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32:49

Overpacking, Phone Addiction, and Vulnerability

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2025/02/13

John does some retail therapy and ponders a bold new way to reduce his screen time. Meanwhile, Jonnie hits the road with way too much luggage and tells the strange history of the Patron Saint of Toothaches. Plus, a conversation about vulnerability and why a life without humility is so dangerous. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Telepathy: "Tell me you know what I'm saying without telling me you know what I'm saying." FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com

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36:08

Our Goal in Life Should Not Be Happiness. But What...

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2025/02/07

"You do not need to know precisely what is happening or exactly where it is all going. What you need is to recognize the possibilities and challenges offered by the present moment and to embrace them with courage, faith, and hope." - Thomas Merton. In this episode, we have a conversation about the "pursuit of happiness" and why adapting to challenges is a far better goal. Plus, John gets a 4-year college scholarship using only a roll of tape and ponders becoming a plumber. Meanwhile, Jonnie changes

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35:49

Weird Getups, Fancy Ketchups, & TMI

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2025/01/30

John does his best cat impression for some voiceover work and helps explain when an outfit becomes a getup. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders whether he could defeat John in an armored battle and why so many political fights in history ended with someone being beaten with a cane. Plus, a conversation about information overload in the age of the internet and whether knowing too much is killing our brains. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Altoids: "The best breath mint that also sounds like a horrible

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50:15

Healthy Self-Awareness vs Unhealthy Navel-Gazing:...

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2025/01/23

"Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life, and you will call it fate." - Carl Jung. Self-awareness is a double-edged sword. Too much of it and you can become an introspective navel gazer. But at the same time, as John Calvin said, "without knowledge of self, there is no knowledge of God." In this episode, John and Jonnie talk about what healthy self-awareness looks like versus unhealthy navel-gazing. While we aren’t able to control everything that happens to us, we

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