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The Numbers Game

Nick Reilly, Jason Robinson, Marty Vidakovic

The Numbers Game — It’s finance, investment and business but not as you know it. Each week Jason Robinson (CPA Accountant), Nick Reilly (Planner) come together to bring you strategy and advice around the importance of knowing your numbers in life and business. Numbers really do tell a story so let us help you make it a good one.

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00:25:56

Profit Margins: The Difference Between Growth and...

The Numbers Game ·

2025/08/03

We take a look at why some businesses thrive while others barely survive, breaking down gross vs net profit, how margins impact your bottom line, and why choosing (or tweaking) the right business model is key to long-term success.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(01:17) Choosing The Right Business For Your Future Income(02:29) Gross Profit Vs Net Profit Explained(03:32) Passion vs Profit: The Reality Of Running A Business(07:03) Why High Gross Profit Gives You Flexibility(08:37) Construction

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00:23:13

Enhanced Games - Can The Olympics Keep Up?

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2025/07/27

Is the Olympic model broken? We are “diving” into the rise of the Enhanced Games - a new competition where athletes are encouraged to use performance-enhancing drugs. We unpack the ethical dilemmas, money gaps, and whether doping could actually disrupt the traditional sporting world for good.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:16) Hot Swimmers, Big Muscles, And A Million-Dollar Question(01:14) What Are The Enhanced Games?(03:06) Olympic Athletes Pay Explained(06:00) Would Paying Olympians

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00:27:28

The Retirement Boom That’s About To Change Australia

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2025/07/20

Australia is heading for its biggest wealth shift in history - and it’s already begun. With over 140,000 Aussies retiring every year, we dive into how the "silver tsunami" of Baby Boomers is set to transform our economy, workforce, and financial planning industries. From aged care and superannuation to legacy planning and retirement housing models, we unpack the opportunities and challenges for both retirees and the generations following them.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:19) Why

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00:39:07

How Money Beliefs Undermine Confidence and Lead to...

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2025/07/13

Today we crack open the limiting beliefs that shape our lives and businesses. Marty leads us in a session exploring the emotional baggage we carry from childhood - around money, confidence, and self-worth - and how it still impacts our adult identity, performance, and decisions. From childhood weight struggles to money scarcity mindsets, we open up in a raw conversation about what’s holding us back and how to break through.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:55) The Difference Confidence

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00:24:13

Are Low Interest Rates Gone for Good In Australia?

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2025/07/06

Interest rates aren’t going back to 2%, so how do you plan for the new normal? Today we talk about why 5-6% mortgage rates are here to stay, how government spending, inflation, and housing supply are driving long-term change, and what that means for buyers and investors. We share practical steps to future-proof your finances, from budgeting to refinancing to changing your property mindset.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:10) Are Low Interest Rates Gone For Good?(02:45) The Reality Of 5%

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00:34:04

Why Now Is the Time to Raise Your Prices

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2025/06/29

Is your pricing helping or hurting your bottom line? In this episode, we break down the real cost of undercharging and show you how to reset your pricing strategy for FY2026. From hourly rates to value-based pricing, we reveal the models that protect profits - plus the $10/hour tweak that added $240K to one business.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:35) Why End of Financial Year Is The Best Time to Review Your Pricing(01:43) How Most Business Owners Get Pricing Wrong(02:58) Hourly Rates:

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00:34:38

Good People, Bad Fit: How One Wrong Hire Can Cost You...

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2025/06/22

Underperformers are costing businesses more than we realise - not just financially, but culturally. Today we unpack the true cost of poor hires, how to manage underperformance with empathy and accountability, and the leadership moves that create a high-performance culture. Whether you lead a small team or a growing company, this episode will sharpen how you hire, coach, and make the tough calls.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:15) Jase’s First Job at Macca’s and the Roots of High

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00:41:30

Chris Christofi on Relentless Learning, Giving Back &...

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2025/06/15

What happens when you build a property portfolio too fast and lose it all before you're 25?Chris Christofi - entrepreneur, author, and CEO of Reventon - went from $348,000 in debt to leading one of Australia’s top property and financial services companies. With over $3.2 billion in property sales and 3,400+ clients helped, Chris shares the mindset, strategy, and resilience behind his 20 years in business.We also dive into his philanthropic mission, from the Vinnies CEO Sleepout to raising $1M+

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00:37:24

Why Are Insurance Premiums So High in 2025?

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2025/06/08

Insurance premiums have skyrocketed - but why? In this episode, we break down what’s behind the soaring costs, why older income protection policies are being priced out, and how to structure your cover to stay protected without blowing your budget. From real-life case studies to smart tax hacks, we cover everything you need to know to protect your biggest asset: yourself.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:07) Why Have Insurance Premiums Skyrocketed?(01:40) The 4 Main Types Of Personal

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00:32:50

Why Every Business Owner Needs a Tax Planning Meeting

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2025/06/01

Thinking tax planning is just paperwork? Think again. In this episode, we unpack why proactive tax planning is a must for business owners—not just to save tax, but to boost cash flow, avoid nasty surprises, and build a stronger financial future. We break down structures, trust distributions, company loans, and real strategies to keep more money in your pocket.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:11) Why Tax Planning Isn't Boring—It's Crucial(04:59) Family Trust Risks And ATO Crackdowns

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00:29:00

How to Avoid Burnout and Still Grow Your Business

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2025/05/25

Burnout is hitting business owners harder than ever. In this episode, we dive into the harsh realities behind the stats: why so many founders feel trapped in their own businesses, the difference between being a consultant and a business owner, and how to build a team without burning cash or yourself. If you’re wearing five hats and going nowhere fast, this one's for you!On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:11) Why Business Owners Are Trapped Doing Everything(04:21) Is Burnout A Badge Of

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00:24:22

Dollar Cost Averaging - The Easiest Way to Build...

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2025/05/18

How do you build long-term wealth without trying to time the market? Today we break down the power of dollar cost averaging and why it’s a proven strategy for growing your investments, especially in volatile times. We unpack how it works, why superannuation does it so well, and how rebalancing and automation can help you stay disciplined and reduce risk.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(01:21) What Is Dollar Cost Averaging and Why It Works(02:02) Why Timing the Market Rarely Works(02:44) The

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00:23:01

Knowing When to Quit in Business

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2025/05/11

Are you pouring time, money, and energy into something that just isn’t working? Today we talk about the “dead horse” strategy and why people cling to bad ideas, failing partnerships, underperforming staff, or side hustles that should’ve ended long ago. We share real stories, hard-earned lessons, and practical tools to help you spot the signs early and move on before it costs you big.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:18) What Is the “Dead Horse” Strategy?(01:29) Marty’s Real Estate Side

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00:27:57

Adam Sullivan’s Hard Lessons: Division 7A, FBT &...

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2025/05/04

Adam Sullivan’s incredible rise in business revenue came with some serious financial lessons. Today we dive into Adams financial rollercoaster - how he scaled to $1.5M a month, bought an $11M mansion, and nearly came undone by Division 7A loans, tax traps, and flashy spending. We unpack the real costs of pulling money from your company, how fringe benefits tax can sting, and why financial literacy is essential for every business owner.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:27) Who is Adam

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00:25:22

Holiday Homes Don’t Make Financial Sense in 2025

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2025/04/27

Dreaming of owning a holiday home? Today we break down the true costs, hidden traps, and emotional pull of buying a weekender and why the numbers often don’t stack up. We explore smarter alternatives for lifestyle and wealth building, and share real strategies to enjoy more holidays without the financial stress.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:35) Why buying a holiday home might not make sense in 2025(01:55) The emotional appeal vs. the financial reality(04:30) Life is busier now — who

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00:24:58

The Real Cost of Uni in Australia

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2025/04/20

HELP debt is now a $80 billion problem for Australia, and it’s only getting bigger. Today we dive into how HECS/HELP debt really works, why it’s impacting borrowing capacity, and whether the system needs a major rethink. From free money myths to the true cost of uni, we unpack the long-term financial consequences and what needs to change.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro (00:38) What is Australia's $80 billion problem? (04:05) 7.5% of your income gone to HELP repayments (05:15) The impact of

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00:28:00

Rethinking Property Tax in Australia

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2025/04/13

Today we unpack one of Australia’s hottest property topics: negative gearing. We dive into what it actually is, how it works, and why it may not be the game changer many think it is. We also explore some bold new ideas to reform the system, including an interesting proposal to simplify how property profits are taxed.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:55) Should We Scale Back Negative Gearing?(02:05) Why Negative Gearing Still Dominates Investor Thinking in Australia(03:20) How Much It's

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00:25:29

What Car Loans Are Really Costing You

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2025/04/06

Thinking about financing your next car? We break down the real cost of car loans and why they could be one of the biggest threats to your long-term wealth. We compare the impact of car debt vs. property debt and explore smarter strategies that could save you hundreds of thousands (or even make you millions) in the long run.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:55) Are Car Loans Destroying Wealth?(06:29) How Car Loans Reduce Home Buying Power(09:59) How Holding Onto Car Loans Could Cost You

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00:24:55

Why You Need a Will

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2025/03/30

What happens if you die without a will? We get into the real-life consequences of not having your estate plan sorted -family fallouts, lost inheritances, and fortunes in limbo. We go through what makes a valid will, how to get one done properly, and why putting one in place now could save your loved ones years of pain later.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(00:48) Why Most People Put Off Making a Will(02:57) A Real-Life Family Fallout Over a Will Change(06:38) $3M Estate Dwindled Down By

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00:33:19

Hunter vs. Farmer and Fixing Your Sales Strategy

The Numbers Game ·

2025/03/23

Are you a hunter or a farmer when it comes to business and sales? In this episode, we break down two sales styles—hunters who chase new deals and farmers who nurture and grow existing clients—and why both are essential for a thriving business. We share real-world examples from accounting, financial planning, and mortgage broking, plus insights on hiring, training, and balancing your team for maximum growth and long-term success.On this episode, we discuss:(00:00) Intro(02:12) Hunters vs. Farmers

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