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All of the Above Podcast

All of the Above

Welcome to All of the Above, the show that gives you an un-standardized take on education! We"re your home for news and analysis of all the complex, relevant, and controversial issues impacting our schools today. Hosted by the super-dope duo of history teacher Dr. Manuel Rustin and principal-leader Jeffrey Garrett, two Black male lifelong educators based in Los Angeles. This is the podcast version of our video series. Check out the dopest education show on YouTube and subscribe to our channel at

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01:15:18

College Board Says “No Racism Here” as it Ends Racial...

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2025/05/31

This Week: The College Board casts its lot with the most regressive, racist actors in our society by stripping race from consideration in its National Recognition Program. The likely outcome of this decision will be a reduction in scholarship funds for Black, Latino, and Native American students, and a shifting of those funds to overrepresented Asian and white students. Here we go again. Plus, in “This Week in American Fascism in Education” the Supreme Court lets stand a lower court ruling upholding

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01:18:50

Should We Bring Back the Zero? Equitable Grading...

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2025/05/24

This Week: Coming out of the pandemic, schools across the country implemented versions of more equitable grading practices. Today, as the immediate effects of the pandemic are behind us, new questions are coming up about whether the pendulum swung too far, and we should return to more traditional, and punitive grading practices. A piece out of Chalkbeat Chicago this week sums up the debate nicely in their high schools. Also, we talk through “This Week in American Fascism in Education” where Donny,

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01:10:28

News Roundup! Confederates Confederating, Newsom...

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2025/05/17

This Week: Whew, it’s been a doozy of a week in American education. Today we do a bit of a news round up with analysis of the stories that resonated most for us. We’ve got Linda McMahon out here dropping the ball on student loan repayment plan applications, with 96% going unprocessed, sometimes for over a year! Class warfare and attempts to gut higher ed are in full swing. Gov. Gavin Newsom showing his conservative true colors as he blocks funding the CA’s ethnic studies HS graduation requirement

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01:08:13

They Cheatin! Bombshell Piece Reveals Extent and Cost...

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2025/05/10

This Week: Everywhere you turn nowadays we are bombarded within AI. From commercials to websites, to our smartphones, you can’t escape it. And neither can the nation’s college students. A bombshell piece in NY Magazine’s Intelligencer this week profiles the extent to which AI use to cheat is endemic in colleges, and the growing concerns around the ethics and potential harm to humans of AI use (also try here). From students doing virtually no writing and relying entirely on AI, to those who use AI

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01:11:00

HVAC Systems and Student Achievement, Plus the Latest...

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2025/04/27

This Week: What would it look like if the people, who claim to care so much about the welfare of the nation’s schools and children, actually spent their (our) time, money, and resources on things that benefited the nation’s schools and children? Well, it might look like talking about our first story today, a study from the Annenberg Institute about the surprising connections between HVAC systems and student learning. Of course, instead of talking about things like this, the powers that be are busy

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01:15:18

This Week in Education in Fascist America… The...

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2025/04/19

This Week: DHS agents attempt to arrest kids from two Los Angeles elementary schools. The Trump admin unleashes demands that embody government overreach and 1st Amendment violations aimed at colleges, Harvard refuses to comply, costing at least $2.3B in funding for now. Faculty at the Big 10 schools lead an effort to create a NATO-like mutual defense compact to defend against the republican attacks. Then the Wisconsin governor uses an unusual level of veto power to extend additional school funding

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00:27:20

Throwback! AOTA Show on Flip the Script KPFK 90.7...

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2025/04/12

This Week: Since Jeff is out there somewhere doing super-duper-dope-principal-leader-man things, we thought it’d be worthwhile to re-post this interview we did in 2019 on KPFK’s Flip the Script with Vida Starr. It’s a bit of a throwback about who we are and why we started All of the Above in the first place. The interviewer, Chavonne Taylor, is a Los Angeles community champion who first appeared on our show earlier that year.WAYS TO HELP WITH THE EATON FIRE IN ALTADENA/PASADENA -- Please consider

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01:07:21

The Wickedness Continues from DC, and Lessons on...

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2025/04/05

This Week: Tired of the wickedness coming from DC? Us too. And, we’re gonna keep you updated on the latest. Trump threatened states with stripping federal education funds if they don’t sign a letter within 10 days certifying they don’t do DEI. The Supreme Court, in all of its great wisdom, reversed a lower court’s injunction preventing the Trump admin from withholding hundreds of millions in funding for teacher preparation and training. And, as the move towards privatization of public education

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01:14:55

Feds Begin Effort to Force of Outing LGBTQ+ Students,...

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2025/03/29

This Week: In the latest chapter of weaponizing the civil rights arm of the US Dept of Ed against the very marginalized groups whose rights it was created to protect, the Trump admin announced an investigation into CA’s SAFETY Act, claiming that the state may be violating FERPA by preventing districts from requiring educators to out LGBTQ+ and curious students to their families. And, in a dastardly, trojan horse style move, a group of mostly democratic CA legislatures launches a disingenuous attack

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01:12:47

Trump and McMahon Come Off The Third Rope On Public...

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2025/03/22

This Week: Well, they did it. Sort of. After telling us what the plan was like evil Bond villains, the White House released the latest in its abuses of executive power this week to, ostensibly, “Improve Educational Outcomes” by doing all it can to close the US Dept of Ed without technically closing it. It’s a textbook case of policy violence, with only a thin veil covering the efforts at privatization, weakening of the institutions that educate the nation, and outright attack on what’s left of our

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01:09:17

Republicans Gut USDOE And Let Us Know Everyone Is NOT...

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2025/03/15

This Week: It’s only been a week since we last spoke, and in that time the US Dept of Education is effectively ½ the size it was, and what’s left is being weaponized to target colleges and universities. Plus, an Idaho teacher makes headlines for resisting her district’s message to take down signs that say “everyone is welcome here.” The district says the signs “don’t allow people to express differing opinions, that it is controversial in today’s political environment.” The era of using school and

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01:25:48

#117 - The DEI Backlash w/ Joe Truss! (REPOST)

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2025/03/12

REPOST - It was all good just a few summers ago! Folks of all backgrounds were marching, corporations were pledging, and America was, well…reckoning. Since the flurry of movement in support of racial justice in the summer of 2020, we have witnessed a severe backlash and regression that most recently has included the federal government attempting to make it illegal to even use the most basic vocabulary of equity and justice in schools. How did we get here, and how can educators survive, resist, and

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01:12:23

More Right Wing Shenanigans and AI replacing College...

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2025/03/08

This Week: The right wing onslaught continues. Since we last recorded, the federal government cut $400M in funding from Columbia University for allegedly failing to respond to “relentless antisemitism,” and the USDOE released its “End DEI” website, with the hopes of getting the public to report schools/educators doing DEI stuff and engaging in the mythology of reverse racism. Thankfully, there are good folks out there helping us understand the landscape of these attacks, and strategize on how to

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01:03:57

Racist Federal Lawsuit Accuses UC of Admitting too...

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2025/02/08

This Week: California got rid of affirmative action in higher ed back in the 90s with the notorious prop 209. But that isn’t stopping a newcollection of bigots and Uncle Toms from suing the University of California in federal court for allegedly practicing affirmative action voodoo and still admitting “too many” Black and Brown students. Sigh. The entitlement, the hubris, the white supremacy, the arrogance, the violent impulses these folks have for us is astounding. And we aint going anywhere

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01:25:48

#117 - The DEI Backlash w/Joe Truss!

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2025/02/02

It was all good just a few summers ago! Folks of all backgrounds were marching, corporations were pledging, and America was, well…reckoning. Since the flurry of movement in support of racial justice in the summer of 2020, we have witnessed a severe backlash and regression that most recently has included the federal government attempting to make it illegal to even use the most basic vocabulary of equity and justice in schools. How did we get here, and how can educators survive, resist, and move

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01:10:49

NAEP Scores, Insane Executive Orders, and an Attempt...

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2025/02/01

This Week: The nation’s report card is out, and the results are… meh. Manuel and Jeff get into it briefly before diving more deeply into the latest attacks on public education coming from DC and state governments. The administration handed down three executive orders this week that, if allowed to stand, would have disastrous impacts on the nation’s schools, and in particular on our most marginalized youth (see here, and here). We go deep on the “Ending Radical Indoctrination In K-12 Schooling”

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00:53:48

Trumpism in Education, Week 1 - Passing Period #146

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2025/01/26

This Week: In just the first few days in office, the Trump administration has used the powers of executive orders to enact hateful and violent policies intended to cause harm to marginalized people of all sorts, and enshrine white supremacy in the nation’s system of public schooling. From their Orwellian press releases, to eliminating DEI offices, to placing individuals identified as having DEI related work on administrative leave, to taking down hundred of websites with resources for schools and

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00:47:40

AOTA Special: Interview with Jesse Hagopian, author...

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2025/01/18

This Week: As we celebrate MLK Jr. weekend, we thought it would be apt to have a special re-release of our recent discussion with Jesse Hagopian about his new book, Teach Truth: The Struggle for Antiracist Education. Nearly half of our nation’s public school children are subject to laws that forbid honest education about the history of racism in this country. Two-thirds of US teachers report self-censoring discussions on race, gender, identity, and sexuality in their classrooms. How did we get here,

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01:12:44

Los Angeles Fires Update: Community and Schools -...

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2025/01/11

This Week: Everyone has seen the news of the devastating fires that have hit the LA area. Today Manuel shares the perspective of an educator at the front lines, working in the high school that has served the Altadena community for generations. Jeff adds perspective from schools and communities affected by the smoke and ash in Los Angeles, and together we process the meaning of this week’s tragic events. WAYS TO HELP WITH THE EATON FIRE IN ALTADENA/PASADENA -- Please consider giving what you can

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00:56:33

New Ed Laws in CA and AR Federal Judge Blocks...

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2025/01/04

This Week: We're back for 2025 and we know talking about politics can be a bit, exhausting now. But, all hope is not lost! There’s good news at the state level in CA with new protections for LGBTQ+ students and the educators who support them, improvements to the history curriculum to teach a more honest history of colonialism and segregation, and more! Plus, out of the great state of Arkansas, a federal judge bans the draconian, right wing law that would support citizens to challenge “controversial”

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