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The Leader’s Way

Berkeley Divinity School at Yale

A spirituality podcast for people who aren’t ready to give up on the world, The Leader’s Way features conversations with intellectual entrepreneurs at the intersection of leadership, spirituality, and theology. This podcast is hosted by Executive Director of Leadership Dr. Brandon Nappi ’01 MDiv and guest hosts Misty Krasawski ’26 MDiv and Whitney Kimball Coe ’26 MDiv. It is brought to you by Berkeley Divinity School, the Episcopal seminary at Yale.

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46: Global Anglican Theology with Michael Battle

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2025/02/10

The Very Rev. Dr. Michael Battle shares insights from the first volume, "Faith," in the new series Conversations in Global Anglican Theology. He helps us explore the fascinating transition of the Anglican Church from being the church of the establishment to becoming the church of advocacy. He also shares his insights on faith, culture, activism, and mysticism within the global Anglican Communion

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45: Servant Leadership with Mary Glasspool

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2025/01/27

Bishop Mary Glasspool shares her rich experiences and insights on leadership, vocation, and the evolving Episcopal Church. Embark on a journey through her inspiring stories of servant leadership and, of course, hear what gives her hope amidst challenges.

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44: Seminary with Yejide Peters Pietersen

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2025/01/13

Dean Yejide Peters Pietersen joins us to discuss what it's like to apply to and be a student at Berkeley Divinity School, the Episcopal seminary at Yale. This is the perfect episode for people thinking about exploring their call or applying to seminary—or for people who know those people! Dean Pietersen reflects on vocational discernment and how theological education is for everyone. She shares how Berkeley at Yale strives to be a welcoming and inclusive environment (starting with its full-tuition

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PRAYER: Guided Contemplative Practice with Brandon Nappi

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2024/12/30

Carve out 15 minutes of your day to center yourself in guided prayer with Dr. Brandon Nappi.

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43: Advent with Andrew McGowan

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2024/12/16

The Very Rev’d Dr. Andrew McGowan, Dean of Berkeley Divinity School at Yale, joins Hannah for an Advent episode. Dean McGowan reflects on his career as a priest, academic, and administrator and shares how the Daily Office helps him maintain balance in the midst of it all. He shares the “what” and “why” behind the lectionary and reflects on the Advent readings from Luke for lectionary year C. We explore the Advent themes of death, judgment, heaven, and hell and discuss how this emphasis differs from

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42: Immigration and Apocalypse with Yii-Jan Lin

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2024/12/09

Professor Lin tells us all about her new book Immigration and Apocolypse: How the Book of Revelation Shaped American Immigration. We think about Christopher Columbus and the New World, why there's a "new" in New England, New York, and New Haven, how Revelation's words have shaped rhetoric about immigration, how Westward expansion and building a wall fit in, and more. Professor Lin helps us think about how our new understanding of Revelation and the American imagination apply to preaching on

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41: Trauma-Informed Spiritual Care with Danielle...

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2024/11/25

The Rev. Dr. Danielle Tumminio Hansen joins Hannah and Brandon for an enriching discussion about teaching theology using pop culture (Harry Potter), trauma-informed spiritual care, and new frontiers in the theology of abortion.Hosts: Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black Guest: Danielle Tumminio Hansen Production: Goodchild Media Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective Art: Ella Landino berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast Support our work:

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40: The Inner Landscape with Parker Palmer

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2024/11/11

Renowned author and spiritual leader Parker Palmer joins Brandon and Hannah to explore the world of leadership and teaching. Palmer shares stories from his life, including profound mystical experiences, bouts of clinical depression, and classroom successes. The conversation underscores the importance of listening and trusting in leadership and teaching. This episode is a heartfelt exploration of the inner life of leaders, emphasizing the integration of faith, authenticity, and compassion in the

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39: The Salem Witch Trials with Ken Minkema

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2024/10/31

This special Halloween episode focuses on the Salem witch trials with a focus on what church leaders can learn from this period of history. Dr. Kenneth Minkema—Executive Editor of The Works of Jonathan Edwards and of the Jonathan Edwards Center & Online Archive at Yale University—teaches us about the witch trials in New England, highlighting their religious and social contexts, the dynamics of fear and accusation, and the lasting impact on American culture. The episode explores the complexities

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38: The Leader's Way

The Leader’s Way ·

2024/10/21

Brandon and Hannah chat about why the podcast is called The Leader’s Way. We hear Brandon’s definition of leadership and talk about the courage, vulnerability, and commitment required of leaders. We hear Brandon’s vocation story and reflect on the work we do, offering continuing education to church leaders.

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37: Jesus and Empire with William Barber

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2024/10/07

In part 2 of our recording with a live studio audience, Bishop Barber breaks down how spiritual leaders are either prophets of the kingdom or chaplains to empire. He takes questions from the audience about the relationship between Episcopal tradition and moral demands, interfaith leadership, and leadership amid the military-industrial complex.Hosts: Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black Guest: William Barber Production: Goodchild Media berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast Instagram:

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36: Moral Leadership and Political Engagement with...

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2024/09/30

The Rev. Dr. William Barber joined us at the Berkeley Center with a live studio audience for this episode of The Leader's Way Podcast, which will be released in 2 parts. Barber tells his vocation story and explains how morality is the key to nonpartisan spiritual leadership in politics. He talks about the "least of these" as a central part of moral engagement in politics and takes us inside a UN conversation about poverty.Hosts: Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black Guest: William Barber Singer: Yara

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35: A Better Way at the National Cathedral with Randy...

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2024/09/23

The Very Rev’d Randy Hollerith, Dean of the National Cathedral in Washington, DC, joins us as we continue thinking about leading churches through especially political times. He talks about the church’s role as being a voice for the “better way”: the promotion of values like unity and love in contrast to what we often see in the world around us. He talks about the cathedral’s role in politics as one of convening conversation and creating space for prayer and reflection.

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34: Golden Retriever Games

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2024/09/16

A rare mostly unserious episode amid serious times: Brandon and Hannah take a moment one year into the show to reflect on past episodes and celebrate the new podcast art and music. We play the inaugural Golden Retriever Games: “Taylor or Dante?” and “The Question Game.”

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33: Spiritual Formation and Politics with Kaitlyn...

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2024/09/09

Kaitlyn Schiess is an author (The Liturgy of Politics and The Ballot and the Bible) and podcaster (The Holy Post and Curiously, Kaitlyn). She joins us to talk about leadership during an election season and how spiritual formation is at the heart of our political engagement. We talk about everything from how to talk about politics at Thanksgiving dinner to how to preach when politics are involved.

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32: Sexuality Within the Biblical Story with Richard...

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2024/09/02

Father and son Richard and Christopher Hays discuss their new book The Widening of God’s Mercy: Sexuality Within the Biblical Story. This book seeks to take the Bible seriously by taking more of the Bible seriously. These authors do not focus solely on the prooftexts that have been used to deny LGBTQIA+ inclusion in the church, nor do they try to write them off. In this book, New Testament professor Richard Hays and Old Testament professor Christopher Hays provide a fresh map through the Bible that

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31: Navigating Turmoil at the Church of the...

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2024/08/26

The Rev’d Rob Fisher tells the story of St. John’s Lafayette Square in Washington, DC. He tells us stories about Presidents Madison and Lincoln and reminds us that the church’s history, including having lived through the American Civil War, gives us perspective. He talks about the life of the church in 2020 and tells stories of Trump’s photo op, a Molotov cocktail, the pandemic, and more. He tells the story about the city putting a fence around the church and the murals that resulted. Fisher calls

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30: A Space of Grace at the Church of the Presidents...

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2024/08/19

The Rev’d Rob Fisher is Rector of St. John’s Lafayette Square, known as the “Church of the Presidents.” He joins us to talk about his vocation story and what it’s like to be the priest at a church where people’s lives and careers revolve around politics. Join us next week for part 2, where Fisher discusses what it was like to be the rector of St. John’s during the events of 2020.Hosts: Brandon Nappi, DMin and Hannah Black, PhD Guest: The Rev’d Rob Fisher See show notes

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29: Race and the Christian Imagination with Willie...

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2024/08/12

Yale Professor Willie Jennings joins us to talk about the relationship between race and theology. We break down how this relationship manifests in Zionism, supercessionism, and Christian nationalism. We break these ideas down to understand where they have come from and what they are. We talk about the bizarreness of being introduced to academic theology, and we consider the ways in which theology can be harmful or lifegiving.

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28: Circle of Hope with Eliza Griswold

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2024/07/29

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Eliza Griswold joins us to talk about her new book Circle of Hope, a compelling and honest portrait of a progressive evangelical church. Griswold’s immersive journalism brings into focus how one church was impacted by division brought about by events like the pandemic and the Black Lives Matter movement.

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