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The Carbon Curve

Na’im Merchant

Few people realize this, but fending off the worst effects of climate change is going to require the removal of billions of tons of CO2 from the air every year. To even comprehend that scale - imagine running today"s oil and gas sector... in reverse. Every two weeks, carbon removal specialist Na"im Merchant speaks to entrepreneurs, innovators, activists, and policy experts advancing bold ideas to scale up carbon dioxide removal to bend the curve on climate change. If you"re concerned about climate

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38:55

Cascade Climate is working to realize the "good movie...

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2024/05/14

Episode 38 is with Dai Ellis (Co-founder and CEO) and Vilas Rao (Co-founder) of Cascade Climate.Today Na’im speaks with Dai Ellis and Vilas Rao about how Cascade Climate is working to address key challenges in open-system carbon dioxide removal (CDR), particularly around quantification of enhanced rock weathering (ERW), why a community-built quantification standard is key to increase consistency in MRV practices across the ERW market, and how to encourage industry adoption and data sharing to

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46:25

Can Isometric turn the carbon market on its head?

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2024/04/25

Episode 37 is with Lukas May, Head of Policy and Expansion at IsometricThe traditional carbon offset market is riddled with problems. We've seen reporting on this from The Guardian, Bloomberg, and other media outlets. Researchers at CarbonPlan have also done some excellent work exposing just how broken some of these systems really are. As we build a new carbon removal industry, we now have an opportunity to build trust in a high integrity carbon removal market. One company, Isometric, is working

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38:16

Why focus on responsible carbon removal deployment?

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2024/03/21

Episode 36 is with Nikki Batchelor of XPRIZE and Ben Rubin of Carbon Business Council.Carbon removal can be a force for good - not just in creating lasting climate benefits - but in delivering social, economic, and ecological benefits as well. Indeed, the future of carbon removal depends on that promise playing out. But it isn’t a foregone conclusion that large scale carbon removal is uncompromisingly and unequivocally good for people and planet. As we build this new industry - an intentional

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38:45

What's on the horizon for Eion and enhanced rock...

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2024/02/27

Episode 35 is with Anastasia Pavlovic, CEO of Eion and Elliot Chang, Co-founder and CSO of Eion.Today Na’im speaks with Anastasia Pavlovic, CEO of Eion and Elliot Chang, CSO of Eion. Enhanced rock weathering (ERW) is an area of carbon removal that I’ve been really intrigued by. When I think about ERW, I think about high potential for scale, benefits to farmers, and potentially challenging MRV.So 35 episodes into this podcast, I’m finally doing an episode on ERW. Today I’ll be speaking with Eion’s

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58:43

Here’s how Deep Sky thinks about scaling carbon removal

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2024/01/31

Episode 34 is with Phil De Luna, Chief Carbon Scientist and Head of Engineering at Deep Sky. In this episode, Na’im speaks to Phil De Luna, Deep Sky’s Chief Carbon Scientists and Head of Engineering. Na’im and Phil cover a broad range of what Deep Sky - a carbon dioxide removal (CDR) project developer that raised C$75M last year - has done to date, how they think about new technology adoption, why Canada is well suited for large scale carbon removal, and the policies that would help advance their

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44:18

Julio Friedmann and Tim Bushman take stock of carbon...

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2024/01/16

Episode 33 is with Dr. Julio Friedmann, Chief Scientist at Carbon Direct, and with Tim Bushman, Director of Policy and Research at Carbon Removal Canada.Today Na’im speaks with Dr. Julio Friedmann and Tim Bushman about Canada's potential to scale up carbon dioxide removal (CDR). Late last year, Carbon Removal Canada released a report on Canada's readiness to scale carbon removal and the policies needed to unlock its potential. Today, Na’im speaks to two leading experts on carbon removal's future in

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48:44

A carbon removal New Year's special

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2024/01/03

Episode 32 is with Na’im Merchant and Rahima Dosani.Building off of the special episode they did a year ago, Na’im and Rahima are back to reflect on all things carbon removal in 2023 and what’s in store for 2024. They also get into launching Carbon Removal Canada, the role Canada can play in scaling carbon removal (CDR), managing changing professional demands, and other personal questions that Na’im was clearly not prepared for!We hope you enjoy the episode and wish everyone a happy 2024!About

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36:30

The future of mining needs to be carbon negative

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2023/12/21

Episode 31 is with Paul Needham, CEO of Arca.Today Na’im speaks with Paul Needham about the potential for accelerated carbon mineralization using mine waste as a carbon dioxide removal (CDR) method to decarbonize mining. Mining will play a huge role in the energy transition given the huge need of critical metals - and CDR can help ensure it’s done in a net-zero fashion.Arca is working to stop - and reverse - climate change by capturing carbon dioxide from the air and transforming it into rock, where

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42:17

Is Kenya the next carbon removal powerhouse?

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2023/12/05

Episode 30 is with Bilha Ndirangu, CEO of Great Carbon Valley.Today Na’im speaks with Bilha Ndirangu. Bilha is the CEO of Great Carbon Valley. She is also the co-founder of Jacob’s Ladder Africa, a non-profit focused on green workforce preparation. In this and other roles, she is at the intersection of climate action, technology, and education, positioning Africa as an investment destination for the green economy, identifying and scaling relevant technologies, and preparing its youth to provide the

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48:50

How direct air capture can help decarbonize aviation

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2023/10/31

Episode 29 is with Anna Stukas, Vice President of Business Development at Carbon Engineering Ltd.Today Na’im speaks with Anna Stukas about how Carbon Engineering is helping the aviation industry to decarbonize, and what roles direct air capture (DAC) technologies play in the sector’s overall strategy to reach net-zero.Anna Stukas is a Vice President of Business Development at Carbon Engineering Ltd. Anna is a professional engineer with nearly two decades experience bridging the gap between

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47:09

Carbon removal's victory condition

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2023/10/13

Episode 28 is with Marty Odlin, Founder and CEO of Running Tide.Today Na’im speaks with Marty Odlin about how Running Tide is navigating the waters of open ocean CDR.Marty Odlin is the Founder and CEO of Running Tide, a global ocean health company. A systems engineer from a 4th generation fishing family, Marty founded the company in 2017 after seeing the devastating implications of climate change on his own community. Running Tide designs and deploys cutting-edge diagnostics and comprehensive

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43:09

How the EU is shaping policies to pursue global...

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2023/09/14

Episode 27 is with Sebastian Manhart, Senior Policy Advisor at Carbonfuture and Board Chair of DVNE, a new German carbon removal association.In the last year, carbon removal news has been dominated by policy wins in the United States. But we know that climate change is the ultimate collective action problem, and I've been keen to learn what other jurisdictions are doing to scale carbon removal globally. The EU is likely to be a big player in the carbon removal field.My guest today, Sebastian

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42:06

How carbon removal is helping make ultra-low carbon...

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2023/09/01

Episode 26 is with Rahul Shendure, CEO of CarbonBuilt.There are many different storage pathways for carbon dioxide removed from the atmosphere.One storage medium that we don't talk about enough is storage of CO2 in long-lived products like concrete. Storing CO2 in concrete not only helps solve the CO2 storage problem - especially for smaller, modular carbon removal deployments - but helps decarbonize a very carbon intense product.My guest today, Rahul Shendure, leads a company that is developing

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50:27

Digging deep on carbon storage

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2023/08/10

Episode 25 is with Jack Andreasen (Breakthrough Energy) and Dr. Claire Nelson (Cella).Today Na’im digs deep into the safe and secure storage of CO2 with Jack Andreasen and Dr. Claire Nelson.Jack Andreasen covers carbon management policy for Breakthrough Energy. In this role he works on policy across NGOs, federal and state governments, industry and start-ups in DAC, CCS and carbon storage. Previous to this role he was an energy policy analyst at The Climate Reality Project and worked for Duke

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46:07

Greg Nemet on the State of Carbon Dioxide Removal

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2023/07/13

Episode 24 is with Professor Gregory Nemet, a Professor at the University of Wisconsin–Madison in the La Follette School of Public Affairs and Convener of the State of CDR report.Today Na’im speaks with Professor Gregory Nemet to learn more about the current state of carbon dioxide removal (CDR) globally, the varying magnitudes of carbon removal needed by midcentury as they correspond to different decarbonization scenarios, and the gap between the amount of carbon removal needed and the amount

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57:42

Julio Friedmann, James Mwangi, Ugbaad Kosar, and...

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2023/06/22

Episode 23 of The Carbon Curve is with Dr. Julio Friedman (Chief Scientist at Carbon Direct), James Mwangi (Co-Founder and CEO of Africa Climate Ventures), Ugbaad Kosar (Director of Environmental Justice at Carbon180), and Marcius Extavour (Chief Climate Solutions Officer at TIME CO2). This episode was recorded from the 2023 Direct Air Capture Summit hosted by Climeworks on June 6, 2023.A couple of weeks ago, I attended the 2023 Direct Air Capture (DAC) Summit hosted by Climeworks and had the chance

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44:20

What a responsible future for ocean carbon removal...

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2023/05/11

Episode 22 is with Dr. Sifang Chen, a Managing Science and Innovation Advisor at Carbon180 and author of the recent white paper, Depending on the Ocean: Research and Policy Priorities for Responsible Ocean Carbon Removal.We continue to see growing interest in enhancing the ocean's ability to remove and store carbon dioxide. In the last month alone, we've seen the largest investment to date in an ocean-based carbon removal startup, California-based Ebb Carbon.Soon after, Dalhousie University

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48:12

Dr. Shuchi Talati on enabling climate policy and...

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2023/04/27

Episode 21 of the Carbon Curve is with Dr. Shuchi Talati, founder of the recently launched nonprofit, The Alliance for Just Deliberation for Solar Geoengineering.In this episode, Na’im and Dr. Shuchi Talati talk about shifting the conversation on two major climate interventions in the course of her career. First, we discuss her experience working with the Department of Energy to help facilitate a major shift in mandate for the Office of Fossil Energy and making it the Office of Fossil Energy and

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32:56

A new accelerator helping build the innovation...

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2023/04/13

Episode 20 of The Carbon Curve is with Marian Krüger, co-lead of the Remove Accelerator and Decarbonization Lead for Sus.Lab at ETH ZürichLet’s hop over the Atlantic and talk about the carbon removal (or CDR) innovation and policy landscape in Europe. The EU is the world’s third largest economy, and it’s well positioned to have a major impact on the future of carbon removal policy and innovation. I wanted to understand Europe's potential in terms of what's in the innovation pipeline, as well as what

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31:31

Ted Christie-Miller from BeZero on assessing the...

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2023/03/30

Episode 19 of The Carbon Curve is with Ted Christie-Miller, Head of Carbon Removal at BeZero CarbonScalability is essential to the success of long-term CDR deployment - it is broadly acknowledged that by midcentury, CDR must grow from its current capacity of thousands of tons to billions of tons of removal per year. But how do we evaluate the potential to scale, the barriers that could prevent the necessary scaling, and the levers needed to overcome these barriers?BeZero Carbon is a ratings agency

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