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Convergence

Mark Steadman & Brendan Hutchins

What is the work of a middle-aged man? To improve himself and help those around him contribute to a fairer, more tolerant society. Mark is a digital producer with a coaching mindset. Brendan is a home remodeler with plans to become a men’s health coach. As men entering their second phase of life, they push each-other to be better and achieve more, without the hustle and grind mindset of the Internet bro. They also do battle with music, writing original songs on the topic of the day.

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46:49

Don't worry, be happy? I worry

Convergence ·

2025/05/23

Mark has an idea for an app, Brendan had a revolution while dancing, and the boys have some advice on mopping.LinksSimple Marketing For Smart People, by Billy Broas, Tiago Forte & Ali AbdaalMoral Ambition, by Rutger BregmanPulp – Common PeopleQuotes by Alan Watts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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46:50

Don't worry, be happy? I worry

Convergence ·

2025/05/23

Mark has an idea for an app, Brendan had a revolution while dancing, and the boys have some advice on mopping.LinksSimple Marketing For Smart People, by Billy Broas, Tiago Forte & Ali AbdaalMoral Ambition, by Rutger BregmanPulp – Common PeopleQuotes by Alan Watts

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48:00

Pump-fakin’

Convergence ·

2025/05/16

Brendan be dodging balls, Mark be watching The Pitt, they both be watching Sinners, and Michael B Jordan. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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48:01

Pump-fakin’

Convergence ·

2025/05/16

Brendan be dodging balls, Mark be watching The Pitt, they both be watching Sinners, and Michael B Jordan.

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1:02:26

I'll send you my love in details

Convergence ·

2025/05/09

Brendan moved his mum into a new care facility, Mark reconnected with his therapist, and the pair reflect on creating intentional routines, reducing digital distractions, and their dreams. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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62:27

I'll send you my love in details

Convergence ·

2025/05/09

Brendan moved his mum into a new care facility, Mark reconnected with his therapist, and the pair reflect on creating intentional routines, reducing digital distractions, and their dreams.

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64:28

Stumbling into failure

Convergence ·

2025/05/02

Brendan and Mark have questions and thoughts around moderation, and Brendan has questions for Mark on his sleep.(00:00) - Stumbling into failure(00:07) - Mark is weirdly on his shit (00:52) - Brendan is on his shit (04:25) - Brendan has thoughts on moderation (14:28) - Mark has a pending relevation (25:12) - Brendan doesn't trust the messages his body gives him (28:09) - Mark tries to grapple with the Three Principles again (32:08) - Brendan successfully avoided Creme Eggs (38:27) - Mark

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67:41

The most thing is sugar

Convergence ·

2025/04/25

The boys mostly talk about sugar, both in chocolate form a la Easter, and in pill form via placebo.(00:00) - The most thing is sugar(01:17) - Brendan describes needing a hug (03:18) - Mark describes his norming (06:10) - Mark mourns a friend (10:30) - Brendan and Mark spoil an episode of Black Mirror (16:57) - Mark describes a book (18:51) - Mark and Brendan appreciate Paul Giamati (22:00) - Brendan has gone 40 days without YouTube (27:53) - Mark does his easter bit (30:24) - Brendan and

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81:22

Is this what normal people do?

Convergence ·

2025/04/18

Mark and Brendan figure out how to talk to people in real life.(00:00) - Is this what normal people do? (00:19) - Brendan got a visit from his mom (03:00) - Mark dreamt of Brendan (06:03) - Brendan went to a trade show (27:07) - Mark recounts his public speaking journey (45:07) - Mark reckons with his unlikeability as a child (56:46) - Mark makes a metaphor (59:21) - The pair talk about assertiveness (01:00:57) - Brendan overthinks a Reddit conversation (01:03:27) - Brendan and Mark talk

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55:31

Get in the comments!

Convergence ·

2025/04/11

Mark encourages Brendan to make short-form video... not at all because he has started making his own.(00:00) - Y'all are welomed to the show(03:42) - Mark wouldn't call a dude "love" (05:19) - Mark says "y'all" ironically (08:28) - Undo is now monetised (17:17) - Brendan's killing it running a meditation group (22:25) - David chimes in (23:16) - Brendan questions his medium (32:55) - Brendan's got moves in the kitchen you haven't even heard of (43:18) - Mark reminisces about You Suck at

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70:36

Now I have a bag of pegs

Convergence ·

2025/04/04

Mark opens a can of worms full of aspartame, and Brendan has both joined a dodgeball league and started a meditation circle. Now who's being a productive dynamo!?(00:00) - Now I have a bag of pegs(00:42) - Dopamine Nation (07:52) - Does Mark trust Brendan? (19:09) - Mark pokes the bear on aspartame (38:47) - Brendan brings up the Potato Famine (40:08) - Mark was write about community (44:09) - Mark ruins Brendan's apology (52:04) - Does food carry a message? (01:00:11) - Brendan takes

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69:17

We're senseless to our selves

Convergence ·

2025/03/28

Brendan and Mark kind of have a fight a little bit. In as much as two enneagram 9s can.(00:00) - We're senseless to our selves (00:59) - Mark's chat history (05:22) - Brendan and the holy trinity (13:59) - Mark gets triggered by the word "recover" (27:56) - The tug of war (38:33) - Another parable of the blind man (43:05) - Part 1 of Mark trying to make a short-form video series (49:46) - A men's group structure (56:13) - Mark wants to open his own beer (01:08:33) - Roscoe being a

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69:40

Playing myself at Magic the Gathering

Convergence ·

2025/03/21

Our heroes navigate freelancing and money, and Brendan has an update for Mark on fasting, courtesy of everyone's favourite large language model.(00:00) - Playing myself at Magic the Gathering(00:12) - Brendan consulted ChatGPT on fasting (06:16) - The YouTube diet (12:31) - The forthcoming men's group (14:11) - Make a plan B (19:25) - Just exist (28:21) - Freelance hubris (36:43) - We don't have a template to follow (45:31) - Capitalism corner (50:07) - What is the authentic self? (58:25)

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69:35

Somebody learned something at some point

Convergence ·

2025/03/14

Brendan's not eating again, and Mark has opinions about education.(00:00) - Cheesecake(04:46) - Brendan is not eating (17:32) - Teaching by experience vs study (19:47) - Profit vs compensation (28:20) - Study vs experience revisited (47:04) - Finding intrinsic confidence in your work (01:09:12) - Only Correct LinksWake Up and Open Your Eyes, by Clay McLeod Chapman

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54:00

How to pathologise a good time

Convergence ·

2025/03/07

Mark's vibrating internally but has got some funky stuff cooking, and Brendan still wants Mark to stop using TikTok.(00:00) - Brendan's tree joke(00:20) - Manic Mark (03:18) - Undo update (08:52) - It's all coming together (22:17) - Big changes and ADHD (25:32) - Pathologising a good time (29:59) - r/blocked (38:48) - Brendan tries to deprogramme Mark from TikTok again (52:18) - Brendan's duck joke LinksCranking, by Merlin MannHard as Nails

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72:40

They're just trying to have a Tuesday

Convergence ·

2025/02/28

Brendan's going to church and Mark's starting a choir. No, like, really.LinksThe Problem with Time & Timezones(00:00) - They're just trying to have a Tuesday(00:12) - Mark's other podcast (11:44) - C90 Community Chorus (32:52) - Life starts now (35:06) - Brendan's going to a church (46:56) - God is a woman (56:14) - A means of control (01:05:52) - 7 days (01:08:14) - Timezones

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65:01

The sweetest fruit with the bitterest finish

Convergence ·

2025/02/21

How do you like them apples?LinksThe paradoxical theory of change

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72:28

No powders

Convergence ·

2025/02/14

Brendan has an app idea and a new tattoo, and the boys both watched The Menu. And have things to say. (Spoiler: they liked it.)(00:00) - No powders(00:14) - The Godmode app (20:49) - Mark has discovered Substack (27:55) - Content as an act of service (29:47) - Brendan got a tattoo (39:42) - The wolf that wins is the one you feed (52:16) - The Menu LinksThe Menu (2022)Triangle of Sadness (2022)

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65:44

I am more bit than man

Convergence ·

2025/02/07

Brendan and Mark talk about pain, shame, and programming; Mark does a recce of Brendan's website; (00:00) - I am more bit than man(00:49) - A nice little shop (04:23) - Being essential (07:30) - What doing business looks like in 2025 (16:33) - Raising rates (20:37) - Positioning (30:42) - From me to you (32:17) - Mark's regular "how do I make a reliable income" wobble (38:04) - Brendan's website (41:38) - We buy stuff to make problems go away (46:10) - Struggling to engage with

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66:26

Let Others Voluntarily Evolve

Convergence ·

2025/01/31

Mark's chair is broken, Brendan is still obsessed with The Cable Guy, and AI always has to have the last word.LinksShell GameGuns Akimbo (2019)Deep Questions with Cal NewportWe Can Do Hard Things

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