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The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland

The Money Trench

The Money Trench (TMT) is The Music Industry Podcast from presenter Mark Sutherland and exec producer Mike Walsh, produced by Tape Notes and supported by Sound On and Tixel. Each Monday, we will dissect the biggest music industry news stories of the previous week, in the company of one of the industry’s most influential executives. Followed by a deep dive into that exec’s career in music, including their thoughts on where we’re at and where we’re heading. Now, TMT is here to look at all sides of the

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TMT:57 Madeleine O’Gorman on Pendulum’s Big Comeback...

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2025/08/24

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Madeleine O’Gorman, General Manager for Mushroom Music Uk & Europe. Having grown up in Australia’s thriving independent scene before relocating to London, Madeleine has built a career across journalism, agencies, and label management at Liberator and Ivy League before stepping into her current role at Mushroom. The pair chat about the unique challenges of breaking Australian artists internationally, how Mushroom balances independence

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TMT:56 David Martin On Saving Grassroots Music & Why...

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2025/08/10

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by David Martin, CEO of the Featured Artist’s Coalition (FAC).As a leading voice in championing fairness, transparency, and sustainability in the music industry, David is an expert in management, touring, and advocacy. The pair explore how the FAC is pushing for streaming reform, supporting artists post-Brexit, and fighting for artist-first structures across the music ecosystem. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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TMT:55 Alistair Norbury On Taking Kylie And Rick...

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2025/08/03

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alistair Norbury, President of UK, Europe and Asia-Pacific at BMG. Together, they explore how one of the world’s biggest music companies is rethinking deals, rights, and the artist-label relationship. From signing Kylie Minogue, Louis Tomlinson, and Craig David, to reviving classic catalogues from Black Sabbath, The Kinks, and Gary Numan, Alistair walks us through BMG’s artist-friendly ethos and global

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TMT:54 Grace Meadows On How To Promote Positive...

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2025/07/27

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Grace Meadows, Head of Music Minds Matter, the mental health charity supporting everyone who works in the music industry. From her roots as a music therapist to leading campaigns for Help Musicians and Music for Dementia, Grace has become a leading voice for mental health advocacy in the industry. The pair talk about the urgent mental health challenges facing artists, freelancers, and executives, the positive steps being made with

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TMT:53 Tom Connaughton on Indie Distribution’s Big...

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2025/07/20

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Tom Connaughton, former UK & Ireland MD at Spotify, now Partner and Senior Advisor at Canvas Music Distribution.From pirate radio and Sony Music, to MySpace, Vevo, and Spotify, Tom has lived through every twist in the digital music revolution. Now he’s helping artists navigate a saturated market through boutique distribution and hands-on support. The pair catch up to reflect on Spotify’s past and future, how independent distribution is

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TMT:52 Cliff Fluet On The Future Of AI & Why The...

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2025/07/13

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Cliff Fluet, partner at Lewis Silkin, MD of Eleven Advisory, and now Chair of Music Technology UK. Cliff has spent decades helping artists, managers, rights holders, and tech companies navigate the complicated world of law, licensing, and innovation, from the rise of digital media, to the current era of generative AI. The pair chat about launching the first Music Tech UK Report, the real state of AI in music, the economic importance of

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TMT:51 David Massey On Bringing Oasis To America &...

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2025/07/06

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by legendary label exec, David Massey, whose career has spanned over 40 years at labels such as Epic, Sony, Mercury, Island, and most recently Arista Records.Fresh off his retirement from corporate life, Massey reflects on working with global artists like Oasis, Shakira, Shawn Mendes, and The Killers, while offering his perspective on the music industry’s evolution. During the week leading up to the big Oasis reunion, the pair chat about

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TMT:50 Jim King on Turning BST Hyde Park Into A...

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2025/06/29

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week we celebrate our 50th episode and Mark is joined by Jim King, CEO of AEG Europe’s Festival Division.Jim is the driving force behind some of the UK’s biggest live music events, including American Express presents BST Hyde Park, All Points East, and newly launched Lido Festival. The pair chat backstage at BST Hyde Park to reflect on a career that spans Creamfields, Bestival, RockNess, and building AEG’s festival empire. Jim shares hard-earned insights on

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TMT:49 Alison Howe on Running Glastonbury’s Epic TV...

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2025/06/22

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alison Howe, Executive Producer of Music at BBC Studios, and the driving force behind the BBC’s epic Glastonbury TV coverage.With over 30 years at the BBC and a background spanning Radio 1, Later with Jools Holland, and iconic music specials, Alison shares her journey from secretarial college to being the BBC’s go-to for live music broadcasting. The pair chat leading up to the world-renowned Glastonbury festival to talk about behind

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TMT:48 Geoff Ellis On Promoting Oasis & Dominating...

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2025/06/15

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Geoff Ellis, CEO of DF Concerts, the Scottish live music powerhouse behind TRNSMT Festival, King Tut’s Wah Wah Hut, and countless shows across Scotland.Celebrating 40 years in the industry, Geoff shares the lessons learned from a life spent promoting the biggest stars, including Oasis, Radiohead, and Pulp. The pair talk during one of the busiest live music summers ever to talk about festival economics, artist ticket pricing,

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TMT:47 Johan Lagerlof On Being The Founding Investor...

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2025/06/08

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Johan Lagerlof, Managing Partner of Pop House Entertainment, the company behind the groundbreaking ABBA Voyage experience and catalogue investments in artists like KISS, Avicii and Swedish House Mafia. With a background spanning Spotify, Warner Music, and a career as a songwriter and entrepreneur, Johan unpacks how immersive tech, catalogue strategy, and legacy storytelling are shaping the next generation of music

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TMT:46 Kim Frankiewicz On Fighting for Songwriters...

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2025/06/01

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Kim Frankiewicz, EVP Worldwide A&R at Concord Music Publishing, and a true veteran of the global business.From INXS and the Aussie pub circuit, to signing Mark Ronson and Daft Punk, Kim has seen it all. Now she leads one of the most respected publishing teams in the world. Mark sits down with Kim at the studio of artist merch company whynow Music to talk about her journey from live promotions in Australia, to top-level publishing roles

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TMT:45 Jamie Oborne On Managing The 1975 & Keeping...

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2025/05/25

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Jamie Oborne, founder of Dirty Hit Records and All On Red Management, and the guiding force behind The 1975, Bleachers, The Japanese House, and more. Jamie shares his journey from artist to manager to label boss, building one of the most influential independent operations in the UK music industry. Mark joins Jamie at Dirty Hit HQ for a candid conversation about building artist-first businesses, dealing with viral fame and

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TMT:44 Jin Jin On Writing Smash Hits & How Songwriter...

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2025/05/18

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down and chats with multi-platinum UK songwriter and creative entrepreneur, Jin Jin.With hits for Jess Glynne, Raye, Jax Jones, David Guetta, Becky Hill, Sabrina Carpenter, and many more, the pair discuss the songwriting economy, streaming reform, creative development, and what it takes to build a sustainable career behind the scenes. Recorded during Ivors week, Jin Jin reflects on her own Ivor nomination, why songwriters still struggle to get

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TMT:43 Roberto Neri On The 70th Ivor Novello Awards &...

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2025/05/11

Welcome to The Money Trench! Mark is joined at Dolby Labs in Soho by Roberto Neri, CEO of The Ivors Academy.On top of Roberto’s vast career spanning PRS, Bug Music, Downtown, Believe and Utopia, they also chat about the future of songwriting, streaming reform, AI, and championing composer rights. Roberto brings a unique perspective on music publishing, rights management, and the industry’s shifting power dynamics and also explores his drive to protect, empower, and celebrate songwriters - not

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TMT:42 Jon Collins on How The Grassroots Levy Will...

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2025/05/04

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined live by Jon Collins, CEO of LIVE (Live music Industry Venues & Entertainment) and chair of the Liverpool City Region Music Board, at the UK Music Academic Partnership event in Liverpool.As a figure at the forefront of the grassroots levy, Jon explains the reasoning behind it and how he sees the future of the scheme. The pair also chat about the current state of the UK live industry, how LIVE is working across government and industry to

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TMT:41 Tony Harlow on How to Break More UK Superstars...

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2025/04/27

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Tony Harlow, CEO of Warner Music UK, to explore his career journey from jazz records to the boardroom, and what it means to lead a major record label in the era of AI, streaming, and cultural shifts.During their chat at Warner HQ in London, they talk about Tony’s early days in record stores and at Blue Note Records, his global adventures across Australia and the US, and the lessons learnt from running labels like V2 and working with some

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TMT:40 Robert Horsfall & Sonia Diwan On AI's Big...

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2025/04/13

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Robert Horsfall and Sonia Diwan, founding partners of Sound Advice.As leaders of one of the UK’s most respected law firms for artists, songwriters, and music entrepreneurs, from brokering major label deals to championing fairer contracts in the streaming age, Robert and Sonia bring decades of experience - and plenty of stories - to the table. Mark joins them at TYX Studios to talk about the evolving role of the music lawyer, the legal

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TMT:39 Craig Jennings on Breaking Bring Me The...

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2025/04/06

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with one of the most respected managers in rock and metal, Craig Jennings, CEO of Raw Power Management.Craig shares his stories of shaping the careers of some of the biggest names in the business, including Bring Me The Horizon, Bullet For My Valentine, and many more. Craig also discusses his journey from the early days of the industry, to managing arena-filling rock bands. He shares insights into what makes a great manager, how artists can

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TMT:38 Megan Ogleby-Page on Running Record Store Day...

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2025/03/30

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Megan Ogleby-Page, Head of Operations at ERA and key figure behind Record Store Day UK. Megan shares her insights on the evolution of physical music retail, the resurgence of vinyl and indie record stores, and how Record Store Day has become a cultural phenomenon. They also talk about Megan's journey into the industry, the challenges of running a major event like Record Store Day, and the future of physical music retail in an

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