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The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland

The Money Trench

The Money Trench (TMT) is The Music Industry Podcast from presenter Mark Sutherland and exec producer Mike Walsh, produced by Tape Notes and supported by Sound On and Tixel.Each Monday, we will dissect the biggest music industry news stories of the previous week, in the company of one of the industry’s most influential executives. Followed by a deep dive into that exec’s career in music, including their thoughts on where we’re at and where we’re heading. Now, TMT is here to look at all sides of the

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TMT:89 Martin Talbot On Why The Charts Still Matter

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2026/05/10

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by former CEO of the Official Charts Company, Martin Talbot. After nearly 2 decades at the helm of the OCC, Martin is here to share exactly how the charts work, and how they’ve evolved in that time. The pair also discuss how the wider music industry has changed in that time, and how technology is shaping the future. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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63:59

TMT:88 YolanDa Brown LIVE On Why UK Music Is Back In...

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2026/05/03

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by chair of the BPI, YolanDa Brown, live at the BPI’s In Tune With Tomorrow summit as part of the Sound City+ conference in Liverpool.As a MOBO-winning artist, entrepreneur, and creative education champion, YolanDa is one of the most influential figures in the British music industry.As the chair of the BPI, YolanDa represents hundreds of record labels. She shares her thoughts on how labels can work with artists to change the biz, and the

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64:08

TMT:87 Miles Leonard on Helping Coldplay To The Top &...

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2026/04/26

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by one of the most successful music executives in the game, Miles Leonard.Having held senior roles across a number of major labels, working with acts such as The Verve, Kylie Minogue and Coldplay, Miles is now working with YTL Live on building a new arena in Bristol. The pair discuss his transition into the live industry, ticketing prices, and his extraordinary career. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up

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61:51

TMT:86 Alastair Webber On Fair Deals For Songwriters

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2026/04/19

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alastair Webber, Co-Founder and CEO of The Other Songs. Having started at Island Records, Alastair and his brother, Billy, have joined forces at The Other Songs to represent nearly every aspect of the music industry. The pair discuss his upcoming event - The Other Songs Live, his thoughts on independent labels competing with the majors, and growing up in one of the UK’s best known musical

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58:32

TMT:85 Kamille On Being A Top Hitmaker & Why...

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2026/04/12

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by legendary songwriter and producer, Kamille. From Little Mix to Clean Bandit, Kamille has played an integral role in some of the biggest songs ever! Kamille also has her very own solo artist career, and owns a label and publishing company. Now the recipient of the Music Producers Guild’s Inspiration Award, Kamille discusses what its like to produce some of the biggest hits, her transition from stockbroker to producer, and what it takes

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61:36

TMT:84 Frank Turner On Making Touring Work For...

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2026/03/29

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Frank Turner, one of the UK’s most successful folk-punk artists.Having started out in punk band Million Dead before becoming a solo artist, Frank has played over 3000 gigs, including Wembley Arena and the opening ceremony of the 2012 London Olympics. The pair discuss his recent South American tour, the realities of the modern streaming model, and why touring is a marathon, not a

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61:05

TMT:83 Jeremy Lascelles On Building A Game-Changing...

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2026/03/23

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Jeremy Lascelles, Co-founder and CEO of Blue Raincoat Music.Having been a manager, tour manager, and a key figure at renowned indie companies Virgin and Chrysalis, Jeremy has had the unique opportunity to work with a wide range of artists. The pair discuss his career, the evolution of Blue Raincoat into a hybrid music company, and his thoughts on the current state of the independent

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TMT:82 Catherine Marks On The Threat To UK Studios &...

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2026/03/16

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by legendary producer and mix engineer, Catherine Marks.Being a two-time MPG Producer of the Year winner, and having worked with everyone from Wolf Alice to Olivia Rodrigo, Catherine shares her thoughts on the current state of the industry and why UK studios are under threat. The pair also discuss her work on the Help(2) album for War Child, whether AI is actually a threat to the industry, and the push for gender equality in the

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62:49

TMT:81 Adam Harris & Callum Read On The Return Of...

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2026/03/09

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Adam Harris and Callum Read, Co-Founders of Touchdown MGMT, and record label Happy Artist. Having worked with bands such as The Snuts, The Rooks, and Hunny Buzz, they discuss the state of guitar music and why it's back on the rise. They also discuss the aftermath of the BRITs, grassroots venues, and their mission to break regional talent in the UK. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up

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TMT:80 Chris Price On How To Get On The BBC Radio 1...

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2026/03/02

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Chris Price, Head of Music for BBC Radio 1 and 1Xtra.Approaching his 10 year anniversary in the role, Chris reflects on his part in shaping one of the biggest radio stations in the UK, and helping break artists from Coldplay to Charli XCX. The pair also discuss the state of British music, the slowness of the charts, and how to make the legendary BBC Radio 1 playlist. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up

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TMT:79 Tommas Arnby On Mananging Yungblud & Why Rock...

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2026/02/23

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Tommas Arnby, founder of Locomotion and co-founder/CEO of Special Projects Music.Having guided YUNGBLUD from the very start all the way to a recent Grammy win, Tommas discusses the return of guitar music, the lessons he’s learnt over the years, and why the industry needs to do more to support British talent on the global stage. The pair also discuss why Tommas believes artist managers should be classed as business partners with their

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TMT:78 Liz Goodwin On The Secrets Of Modern Music...

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2026/02/16

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Liz Goodwin, a music industry marketing and strategy expert whose career spans the likes of Polydor, Glassnote and most recently Atlantic Records.Liz shares her journey from early label experience through to marketing leadership, including her time working across international campaigns for major artists and helping build the foundations for many artists we know today. The pair also discuss how marketing is changing in the music

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TMT:77 Sybil Bell On Independent Venue Week & Why...

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2026/02/09

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Sybil Bell, founder of Independent Venue Week. For more than a decade Sybil has helped shine a spotlight on the venues that form the foundations of the entire live music ecosystem - from first gigs and early tours through to artist development and local cultural identity. In their chat, the pair discuss how Independent Venue Week was built, how it has expanded globally, and why protecting venues is more urgent than

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TMT:76 Aly Gillani On Why Bandcamp Is Music Retail...

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2026/02/02

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Aly Gillani, Artist & Label Relations Lead at Bandcamp and Director of First Word Records.From running his own independent record label, to asking for (and receiving) his dream job at Bandcamp, Aly shares his insight into how the platform is different from other music retail sites, putting artists first, and why the platform has banned AI. The pair also discuss how the now-legendary ‘Bandcamp Friday’ is impacting artists around the

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TMT:75 Sumit Bothra On What Artist Management Really...

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2026/01/26

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Sumit Bothra, founder and CEO of SB3 Artist Management, as well as manager of PJ Harvey. With a career spanning over 20 years across major labels, independent management, and executive leadership, Sumit reflects on his long journey through the industry. The pair also discuss what balancing a home family life and being a manager really looks like in 2026, including how he's able to fully disconnect from

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TMT:74 Alex Hannaby On The Unstoppable Rise Of...

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2026/01/19

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alex Hannaby, VP of International Marketing & Operations at Big Machine, as well as head of the label’s UK business.From launching Big Machine UK ten years ago, to overseeing international strategy across multiple territories, Alex offers a detailed insight into how country music has moved from a niche genre to a cultural force. The pair discuss why country is connecting with so many younger listeners, how UK radio and festivals are

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TMT:73 Ben Mortimer On How To Break New Artists & The...

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2026/01/12

Happy new year from The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Ben Mortimer, President of Polydor Label Group. From starting out as a journalist, to now being in charge of one of the worlds biggest labels, Ben shares his unique insight into how to break new artists in 2026, and why patience is key. The pair also discuss the state of British music, the role of AI, physical media, and the pressures facing modern artists. NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up

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TMT: Best Of 2025

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2025/12/15

Merry Christmas from The Money Trench! This week, we’re bringing you a very special compilation episode! Sit back, relax, and enjoy some of the key moments from our 2025 episodes. Mark will guide you through the hottest industry talking points from the year, and end with a joyful latest or greatest compilation of the best music industry parties.NEWSLETTER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music

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TMT:72 Zena White On Building The World’s Coolest...

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2025/12/08

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Zena White, COO of Partisan Records and Chair of WIN.From working her way up through live music, management, and label services, Zena is now COO of one of the world's most successful indie labels in the world, responsible for acts such as Geese, Cigarettes After Sex, and Ezra Collective. The pair discuss what it takes to break alternative music in the streaming age, why artist development still matters, the challenges facing British

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TMT:71 Paul Lennon On Negotiating The Music...

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2025/12/01

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Paul Lennon, one of the UK’s top music lawyers and consultant at Moore SGD Law.From working as in-house lawyer at labels, to becoming the go-to lawyer during the 90s Britpop era, Paul has been at the heart of the music industry for over 30 years. In Paul’s debut interview, he discusses the glory days of Britpop, how artist deals have evolved, and how much lawyers actually get involved in artist’s

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