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Roots Running

Al Ferguson and Sean Cate

Roots is a trail and ultrarunning focused show born out of a deep appreciation for the humble origins of our sport, and a dedication to shedding light on stories that won"t otherwise be told.

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00:15:28

Where We Are Heading in 2025: WTGGT- Episode 76

Roots Running ·

2025/02/05

A little late for a new years announcement but never too late to let you guys know Adam and I are making some changes to WTGGT this year, and some we think you guys will really enjoy. Every year we reflect on how the podcast is going, what our purpose in producing it is, and how we can stay true to our vision while growing in a way that is natural and makes sense. While WTGGT is obviously not our day job, we admit that the last few months we have really been 'going through the motions' and

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00:57:21

Black Canyons 100k Preview with Lee Jarvis: WTGGT-...

Roots Running ·

2025/01/28

This episode of When The Going Get’s Tough is brought to you by Lee Jarvis Coaching™️Lee joined the boys this week to discuss his winter training block in anticipation of the Black Canyon’s 100k coming up February 8th, 2025. Lee shares insights into how his training differed on this block, and what his head space is going into the race. Lee also shares advice for those interested in their first marathon *cough* Adam *cough*. What is a good time goal for your first marathon? It depends😁. We will

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01:34:01

Beginner Strength Training: WTGGT- Episode 74

Roots Running ·

2025/01/21

This episode of When The Going Get’s Tough is brought to you by blood, sweat and determination. Sean recaps his first week of the training program under Adam’s supervision and shares what went well and what will be tweaked. Short and sweet today. Attached here is the document outlining Adam’s program for Sean if anyone is looking for a simple training plan that can easily fit into a busy schedule, while hitting all the important foundation. If you have any questions feel free to reach out via

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00:50:53

Sean’s Strength Training Program: WTGGT- Episode 73

Roots Running ·

2025/01/14

This episode of When The Going Get’s Tough is brought to you by blood, sweat and determination. Adam discusses the details of Sean’s weightlifting program he has to follow for 90 days, and if he succeeds, Adam will train for a marathon with Sean for the late summer/fall. Attached here is the document outlining Adam’s program for Sean if anyone is looking for a simple training plan that can easily fit into a busy schedule, while hitting all the important foundation. Training Program If you have

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00:49:47

Three Years of When The Going Gets Tough: WTGGT-...

Roots Running ·

2025/01/07

Adam and Sean reconnect for a much needed reflection on the 2024 season, discuss how their goals and expectations for last year held up to reality, and look ahead to the 2025. We would like to thank everyone who supported us with their listenership this year. This year we took some big leaps forward and a few steps back, as is the natural rhythm of life. Overall we are really happy and proud to continue this endeavor as we seek to bring you more conversations, more guests, and more ideas about

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00:48:35

2024 Hellgate 100k Race Recap: WTGGT-Episode 71

Roots Running ·

2024/12/17

Sean and Lee Jarvis sit down to debrief Sean’s performance at the Hellgate 100k this past weekend. The fellas sat down just one day post race to discuss what went well, how the training worked and what might have been done differently. Sean placed 5th at this years Hellgate with an official time of 11:31:55, a small PR over his time from 2022. What is more remarkable is that Sean spent less than 50 miles of his training block on single track trails, and with Coaching from Lee, was able to create a

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01:18:49

Hellgate 100k Preview and This Year In Ultra Running...

Roots Running ·

2024/12/10

On this weeks episode Sean Cate and special guest Alvah Ferguson breakdown Sean’s unorthodox training block for the upcoming Hellgate 100k. Additionally the fellas announce their upcoming new podcast exclusively dedicated to Trail and Ultra Running news, Trail Talk. The second half of the podcast covers Sean and Alvah’s most notable performances in ultra running for the 2024 year. Thanks for listening and being apart of the tough fam. -A&S

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00:42:16

Recommitting to Goals Amidst Seasonal Depression and...

Roots Running ·

2024/12/03

On today's episode the boys get real about how they approach Holiday season and cold winter days in terms of training and eating. Most people experience weight gain and a significant decrease in physical activity due to shorter days, cold weather, and abundance of holiday parties where the food might be delicious, but not necessarily nutritious. Adam and Sean give their mindset and practical tips on how to stay active and reduce overeating. If you want your January resolution to stick, your best

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01:19:56

Cycling Culture with Dylan Curtis: WTGGT - Episode 67

Roots Running ·

2024/11/26

Todays episode features Fort Wayne local legend, Founder and Manager of Apex Cycling, and new friend of Sean’s Dylan Curtis. Dylan is extremely passionate about riding bikes, which he’s been doing since he could walk (without training wheels). The boys talk about why Sean is dead wrong about his impression of cycling culture, about various teams Dylan has raced with competitively, and how he saw a gap in the development of post-grad cyclist and took the opportunity to found his own team, Apex

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01:31:42

What's The Next Big Fitness Trend: WTGGT - Episode 66

Roots Running ·

2024/11/19

Adam and Sean chat about the various challenges of job searching and transition phases in life. If you want to see the exercise Sean was attempting to describe check it out here. Other topics include: -The current arc of hybrid athlete training and where we go from here. -Maximalism versus Minimalism in fitness. -Why we never really want to be full time influencers. -Hobbyfluencers and day in the life style content -Why are we still doing this podcast? As always, if you liked the podcast give us

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00:58:55

The Overtraining Undertraining Pendulum: WTGGT-...

Roots Running ·

2024/11/12

Whats cooking Tough Fam. Today your beloved hosts cover a myriad of topics from: -Effective strength training can happen in 20-45min 4 days a week -Intensity is the key to efficient training -Why people overtrain -Building confidence doing hard things -Looking for challenges that stretch your comfort zone without overtraining -Adam’s more laid back approach to training -The difficulty of balancing intense exercise with healthy lifestyle choices Also noted in this episode, Adam challenged Sean to

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00:49:10

Just Run as Fast as You Can: WTGGT - Episode 64

Roots Running ·

2024/11/05

Your beloved Hosts Adam and Sean catch up on todays episode and Sean shares reflections of how he's redefined his running/training/racing goals in a way that is more aligned with his real values. These realizations opened up conversations about honest self reflection, the things that influence our beliefs about ourselves, and what fuels our desires. Listen to the Run Singletrack podcast which inspired Sean's recent thought's here. As always thanks for listening to this weeks episode of When The

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00:58:33

Reframe Your Limits: WTGGT - Episode 63

Roots Running ·

2024/10/29

Welcome to another week and yet another collab with Ben Wright's 'Between The Guidelines' podcast. This time around, Ben and Adam catch up covering Ben's new interest in martial arts, philosophical discussions on how our physical activities can help us reframe the limits our minds put on our abilities to overcome. Thankful for Ben Wright and his time this week! Check out Between The Guidelines on Spotify and be sure to follow Ben's work. Have a strong week you beautiful mothertoughers

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00:59:02

Pro Baseballer, Counselor, and Runner Walk Into A...

Roots Running ·

2024/10/22

This week Sean sits down with a new friend, Langston Ginder to talk about his journey playing independent league baseball with hopes of one day getting called up to the MLB. In addition to baseball, Langston is also pursuing a Masters degree in Mental Health Counseling and shares insights from his experience and training in therapy as they relate to athletics and life as a whole. As always, thanks for listening you mothertoughers. -A&S

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00:51:53

Tough Truths with Adam and Sean: WTGGT - Episode 61

Roots Running ·

2024/10/15

Sean and Adam catch up on this episode. Together, the boys philosophize about what life would be like if they had stayed on some of the paths they were on early in college. Other conversation includes how to change your perspective, the importance of voicing your internal narrative out loud with those you trust, and other insightful reflections. Staying tough sometimes means reaching out in vulnerability. Talk to the people you love, people. ❤️A&S

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00:56:55

Ultra Running, Investing, and Bees with Brinton...

Roots Running ·

2024/10/08

Welcome to the podcast Brinton Johns! Brinton is an investor and bee keeper living in Golden, Colorado. Brinton enjoys ultra running, spending time with his kids, and backpacking. Adam and Sean attempt to download some of his wisdom and somehow synthesize the commonalities between investing, ultra distance running, and bee keeping.  This is your reminder to take a breath. We're playing the long game.  Thanks for listening as always ❤️ A&S

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00:40:29

STOP FOAM ROLLING: WTGGT - Episode 59

Roots Running ·

2024/10/01

HAPPY TUESDAY! The fellas run through various recovery techniques and discuss whether they are actually helpful for increased MUSCLE growth or not. Dr. Mike's video inspiring todays episode here Sorry not sorry for the clickbait title. Prayers out to our Asheville and Greenville fam. Stay tough Fam❤️

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00:50:41

Heat Training for Peak Performance: WTGGT - Episode 58

Roots Running ·

2024/09/26

Sean and Adam dive into the new scientific research regarding heat training and adaptations for increased endurance performance. Sean outlines how, and why heat training can be helpful and is relatively accessible for everyone. Disclaimer: heat training comes with inherent risks! Do your own research and use common sense when implementing these types of exercises. As always, when the going gets tough, y'all mothertoughers get going. -A&S

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00:44:09

Run Rabbit Run 100 Recap: When The Going Gets Tough -...

Roots Running ·

2024/09/17

The fellas discuss Sean's recent trip out to Steamboat Springs Colorado to crew friend and legend Will Stough in his first 100 miler.

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00:47:10

Growth From Change: WTGGT - Episode 56

Roots Running ·

2024/09/09

Adam and Sean have a good old fashioned catch-up and discuss some life transitions they're both adapting and adjusting to. The boys also discuss how their athletic pursuits are currently evolving in response to those changes, and what challenges they are looking forward to.

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