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Proofing and Lies

Guest experts join sociologist Elle Rochford to dive into new topics and new baking projects every other Monday! Social scientist and amateur baker, Elle, interviews guest experts each week to talk through important political and social issues. Follow Proofing and Lies on Instagram (@ProofingAndLies) or on twitter (@ProofingL) to check out how each baking project turned out and be sure to like, subscribe, follow, and review PAL wherever podcasts are found.

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030 Soufflé and Citizens for a Safer Cleveland with...

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2021/10/18

This week Elle and Andrew talk with LaTonya Goldsby, co-founder and president of Cleveland Black Lives Matter, about Issue 24. The initiate would create a permanent civilian oversight board. Andrew and Elle talk in-depth with Goldsby about what makes this measure so important. Learn more about issue 24 at SaferCLE.org. Check out this week's bake on Instagram (@ProofingAndLies) or twitter (@ProofingL). Skip to interview: 9:09

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029 Ice Cream Sandwiches and Backlash with Dr. Thomas...

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2021/10/11

Bad ideas never die and good guests are always welcome back. This week we catch up with what Dr. Thomas Lecaque has been doing since episode 18. We talk about QAnon, mask mandates, backlash, trolling, and "cancel culture." Andrew and Elle revisit cookies and bring a new iteration with ice cream sandwich cookies. To see this week's baking project check out @ProofingAndLies on Instagram and @ProofingL on twitter. You can find Tom at @tlecaque on twitter.

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028 White Chocolate Flower Cake and Climate Activism...

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2021/10/04

Welcome back! We're thrilled to kick off season 3 with Elane Westfaul. Remember when we talked about domestic terrorism with Anna Meier (episode 11)? This week we talk to Elane Westfaul about invoking "terrorism" when the environment is in play. This week we explore the flexibility of 'terrorism' and the deliciousness of coffee and chocolate. Check out our cascading white chocolate flower on instragram (@ProofingAndLies) and follow Elane on twitter @ewestfaul

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Season 3 Updates

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2021/07/19

Andrew and Elle are taking a summer vacation! We'll be back in September with more guest experts, more baking, and BETTER MICS! In season three we'll catch up with past guests and revisit some baking fails. Remember to review, subscribe, and share widely!

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01:08:06

027 Chocolates and "Debating the Drug War" with...

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2021/07/12

This week Andrew and Elle talk with Prof. Michael Rosino about his new book Debating the Drug War: Race, Politics, and the Media. His book is available through Routledge or wherever books are sold. We discuss the history of the drug wars in the US and why public perceptions of some drugs change over time. Elle also shares her hack for expensive looking gifts: chocolate. Check out our chocolate truffles on Instagram @ProofingAndLies and find more of Prof. Rosino's work at

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00:56:47

026 Chocolate Truffle Cake, Sports, Gender, and Trans...

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2021/06/28

This week Andrew and Elle are joined by Dr. Karissa Conrad to talk about her work on sports and gender. They discuss the recent efforts to ban trans and nonbinary students from school sports and how athletics are used to reinforce gender and sex essentialism. Elle and Andrew also turn a cake fail into a gorgeous birthday cake. Check out the cake on Instagram @ProofingAndLies

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025 Tiramisu Cheesecake, Space, Place, and Protest...

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2021/06/21

This week Andrew and Elle talk with Dr. Kaitlin Kelly-Thompson about her dissertation which recently won the APSA Women, Gender, and Politics Section 2021 Best Dissertation Award. Elle makes a tiramisu cheesecake for Andrew's birthday. We discuss her research on Gezi Park, the Women's March, and the effects of space on protests and politics. Learn more about her work at kkellythompson.com. Learn more about this week's bake on Instagram @ProofingAndLies.

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00:56:01

024 Blackberry Coconut Tart and Policing Welfare with...

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2021/06/14

Elle and Andrew are joined by Professor Spencer Headworth this week to discuss his new book Policing Welfare: Punitive Adversarialism in Public Assistance. They also find uses for all the ingredients they've accumulated during season two. Check out their tart on Instagram @ProofingAndLies and find Policing Welfare at your local book seller or from University of Chicago Press.

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00:54:30

023 Classic Macarons and BhD with Drs Daphne Penn and...

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2021/06/07

This week we talk with BhD (Black and Highly Dangerous) podcast hosts Daphne and Tyrell about public sociology and their upcoming book The Dark Side of Reform. Andrew and Elle try their hands at a classic French macaron (pictures on Instagram @ProofingAndLies). You can find more BhD where podcasts are found or on their website https://www.blackandhighlydangerous.com/

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022 Baklava, Palestine, and TikTok with James Ray

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2021/05/24

This week Andrew and Elle are joined by social media strategist James Ray. James talks about using TikTok to educate his 182.6k followers about economic justice, Palestine, and political theory. Andrew and Elle try making baklava for the first time - their first bake using store bought pastry. Check out the finished baklava on Instagram @ProofingAndLies and find James's work on TikTok (@JamesGetsPolitical) and twitter (@MakeItRayn_). For more on Sole Strategies check out

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00:57:56

021 Pasta and Anti-Vaxx Movements with Dr. Catherine Tan

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2021/05/17

This week Andrew and Elle are joined by Dr. Catherine Tan to discuss some of the reasons why and how people become anti-vaxxers. Dr. Tan shares some insights from her current book project Challenging Autism: The Making of Controversial Bodies and Identities. Andrew and Elle share some of their many pasta projects.

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020 Coconut Crème Brulee and Sister Style with Dr....

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2021/05/10

This week Andrew and Elle are joined by award winning political scientist Dr. Nadia Brown to discuss her new book Sister Style: The Politics of Appearance for Black Women Political Elites (by Nadia Brown and Danielle Casarez Lemi). From Tessica Brown to Stacey Abrams, the public (especially on social media) is paying attention to Black women's hair - Dr. Brown explains the political implications and social significance. Elle and Andrew attempt (and succeed) at their first ever crème brulee, which

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019 Pony Picture Cookies and the Connections Between...

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2021/05/03

This week Elle and Andrew make a sugar cookie with a colorful picture design and talk with Dr. Zachary Palmer about his work on Bronies, the Men's Rights Movement, and online culture. We discuss the overlap between Bronies (adult men who are fans of My Little Pony) and political extremist movements. While not all Bronies are political or end up in rightwing movements, the roots of QAnon, far right groups, and Bronies are more tangled than one might think.

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018 Cookies and the Medieval Origins of QAnon with...

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2021/04/26

"Bad ideas never die." This week Historian Thomas Lecaque brings us a cookie recipe and his analysis of QAnon. Andrew and Elle make a few versions of cookies and learn about the crusades, many maybe apocalypses, and the endurance of prejudices.

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017 Millionaire Shortbread and Debt with Dr. Louise...

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2021/04/19

This week we talk about debt - student debt, housing debt, medical debt, city debt, and country debt. If tuition and endowments are going up how are universities still in need of austerity? Dr. Louise Seamster joins us to talk about what debt means and how it works (and WHO it works for). Andrew and Elle make millionaire shortbread bars and learn all about debt, inequality, and loan forgiveness. To check out the bars follow @ProofingAndLies on Instagram and for more from Dr. Seamster follow her on

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016 Lemon Mango Cake and Applied Worldwide

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2021/04/12

The lemon cake was good, the mango curd was meh, and the guest experts were incredible! This week we collabed with Applied Worldwide, an organization that specializes in applied sociology and connecting sociologists from all over. Co-Founders Stephanie Wilson and Luke Hanna join Andrew and Elle on PAL and Andrew and Elle co-authored a post for AppliedWorldwide.com! We talk public sociology, applied sociology, and academic sociology. Check out our Applied Worldwide cake on Instagram @ProofingAndLies

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015 Pizza and PANIC with Dr. Lindsay Hamm

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2021/04/05

We're jumping right in with moral panics! This week Elle and Andrew talk about the history, demographics, and consequences of moral panics with Professor Lindsay Hamm. From the Salem Witch Trials to Wayfair and QAnon, we dive into the who, what and whys of moral panics. We also discuss a homemade pizza topped with a full ball of fresh mozzarella and kale Caesar salad. Check out our pictures and find a link to the recipe on our Instagram @proofingandlies. So, proof your pizza dough, preheat your

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00:56:03

014 NYE Challenge and the Misinformation of 2020 Part 3

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2021/01/18

Andrew and Elle finish their 2020 recap of misinformation. This week they share how they repurposed their NYE challenge leftovers and ingredients and dive into the M4BL protests, myths and realities about child trafficking, and how social media algorithms radicalize people. This episode is the final episode of Season 1 but Andrew and Elle will be back in April 2021 with more guest experts and carbs! In the meantime like, follow, review, and share Season 1.

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013 NYE Challenge and the Misinformation of 2020 Part 2

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2021/01/11

Andrew and Elle are back with Part 2 (of 3) on the biggest misinformation stories of 2020 and the second half of their New Year's Eve cooking challenge. This week they cover more COVID falsehoods and misunderstandings as well as the election law suits. Check out the NYE challenge featured on @ProofingAndLies story highlights.

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012 NYE Challenge and the Misinformation of 2020 Part 1

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2021/01/04

Part 1 of 3, detailing Andrew and Elle's New Year's Eve Challenge and unpacking the misinformation of 2020. In Part 1, Andrew and Elle discuss COVID and the confusing, sometimes misleading information surrounding the early days of the pandemic. They also share the first half of their six course New Year's Eve cooking challenge. To see the full challenge check out @ProofingandLies highlighted story on Instagram.

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