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Otherppl with Brad Listi

Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly books and culture podcast featuring in-depth conversations with today"s leading authors. Literature, screenwriting, the creative process, pop culture, and more. Available wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on Bluesky and Instagram.

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REPLAY: Mark Leidner on Aphorisms, Belief, Purpose,...

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2026/03/08

Today on the program, a trip into the archive and a return to Episode 545, my conversation with author, poet, and screenwriter Mark Leidner. Air date: October 3, 2018. Mark Leidner is the author of two feature films: the sci-fi noir Empathy, Inc. (2019) and the relationship comedy Jammed (2014). He is also the author of the story collection Under the Sea (Tyrant Books, 2018), the poetry collection Beauty Was the Case That They Gave Me (Factory Hollow, 2011), and the book of aphorisms The Angel in

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81:07

REPLAY: Michael Finkel on The Last True Hermit

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2026/03/05

Today on the program, a trip into the archive and a return to Episode 461, my conversation with author and journalist Michael Finkel about his book The Stranger in the Woods: The Extraordinary Story of the Last True Hermit (Knopf). Air date: April 12, 2017. Michael Finkel is the author of True Story: Murder, Memoir, Mea Culpa, which was adapted into a 2015 major motion picture. He has written for National Geographic, GQ, Rolling Stone, Esquire, Vanity Fair, The Atlantic, and The New York Times

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1024. Tobi Coventry

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2026/03/03

Tobi Coventry is the author of the debut novel He's the Devil, available from Abrams Books. It was the official February pick of the Otherppl Book Club.For the past ten years, Coventry has worked as a book scout for film and television production companies. In 2023, he produced an award-winning short horror film, Blood Rites, based on a story by Daisy Johnson. He lives in East Sussex, UK. *** ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a

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74:34

Tess Gunty on Mysticism, the Midwest, and Winning the...

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2026/03/01

Today on the program, a trip into the archive and a return to Episode 847, my conversation with National Book Award-winning author Tess Gunty from 2023.Tess's debut novel, The Rabbit Hutch, was a New York Times Bestseller and the recipient of the 2022 National Book Award for Fiction. It has been translated into a dozen languages. The novel also received the Barnes and Noble Discover Prize, the Waterstones Debut Fiction Prize, and the VCU Cabell First Novelist Award. It was a finalist for the

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16:15

Excerpt from 'Clutch,' by Emily Nemens

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2026/02/28

Vol. 6 of Story Time, a new series on the program featuring an author reading aloud from her work. In this episode, Emily Nemens reads aloud from her sophomore novel, Clutch, available from Tin House / Zando. Nemens’s debut novel, The Cactus League, was a New York Times Book ReviewEditors’ Choice and named one of NPR’s and Lit Hub’s favorite books of 2020. Her stories have appeared in BOMB, The Gettysburg Review, n+1, and elsewhere; her illustrations have appeared in The New Yorker and in

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101:31

The 400 Bros

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2026/02/26

Volume 81 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad plants a beautiful garden...continues tedious AWP preparations...binge-watching UFO docuseries...the aliens are probably in the ocean...Mira still hasn't set up her hummingbird cam...is now invested in a new conspiracy theory involving the late Queen Elizabeth...Marty Supreme loses huge at the BAFTAs...the Tourette Syndrome vs. Racism online circular firing squad...Prince Andrew gets arrested...screams "I AM THE QUEEN'S SON"...Bonnie Blue gets knocked

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73:47

1023. Emily Nemens

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2026/02/24

Emily Nemens is the author of the novel Clutch, available from Tin House. Nemens's debut novel, The Cactus League, was a New York Times Book ReviewEditors’ Choice and named one of NPR’s and Lit Hub’s favorite books of 2020. Her stories have appeared in BOMB, The Gettysburg Review, n+1, and elsewhere; her illustrations have appeared in The New Yorker and in collaboration with Harvey Pekar. Emily spent over a decade editing literary quarterlies, including leading The Paris Review and serving as

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106:22

REPLAY: Sarah M. Broom on New Orleans, Family, Race,...

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2026/02/22

Today on the program, a trip into the archive and a return to Episode 600, my conversation with National Book Award-winning author Sarah M. Broom from 2019.Broom a writer whose work has appeared in the New Yorker, The New York Times Magazine, The Oxford American, and O, The Oprah Magazine among others. A native New Orleanian, she received her Masters in Journalism from the University of California, Berkeley in 2004. She was awarded a Whiting Foundation Creative Nonfiction Grant in 2016 and was a

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91:25

Clavicular Manslaughter

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2026/02/19

Volume 80 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad's AWP travel packing anxiety...his compassion for Chevy Chase....watching Eyes Wide Shut, looking for clues to our present reality...contemplating a possible trip to Guatemala....Mira reviews Wuthering Heights..."shockingly prude"...getting obsessed with the Nancy Guthrie case...shoddy police work...another edition of This Week in Dead Influencers...Angry Adam unleashes his wrath...Amy Schumer's revenge bod and performative Valentine's Day post-divorce

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1022. Eric Lichtblau

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2026/02/17

Eric Lichtblau is the author of American Reich: A Murder in Orange County, Neo-Nazis, and a New Age of Hate, available from Little, Brown & Co.Lichtblau is a Washington journalist and a two-time Pulitzer Prize winner. He was a reporter in the Washington bureau of the New York Times for nearly 15 years until 2017, and a reporter for the Los Angeles Times for 15 years before that. He has also written for the New Yorker, TIME, USA Today, and other publications. His other books include The Nazis Next

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84:17

REPLAY: Yiyun Li on Grief, Attention, Deep Reading,...

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2026/02/15

Today on the program, a trip into the archive and a return to Episode 863, my conversation with Yiyun Li from 2023.Yiyun Li is the author of several works of fiction—Wednesday’s Child; The Book of Goose; Must I Go; Where Reasons End; Kinder Than Solitude; Gold Boy, Emerald Girl; The Vagrants; and A Thousand Years of Good Prayers—and the memoirs Things in Nature Merely Grow and Dear Friend, from My Life I Write to You in Your Life. She is the recipient of many awards, including a PEN/Faulkner

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17:07

Excerpt from 'The End of Romance,' by Lily Meyer

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2026/02/14

Vol. 5 of Story Time, a new series on the program featuring an author reading aloud from her work. In this episode, Lily Meyer reads from her new novel The End of Romance, available from Viking Books. Meyer is a translator, a critic, and the author of the novel Short War. She is also a contributing writer at The Atlantic. Her stories and translations can be found in The Dial, The Drift, The Sewanee Review, The Southern Review, and many other journals, and her essays and criticism appear in outlets

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108:40

Bad Bunny Saves America

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2026/02/12

Volume 79 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad prepares for AWP...Mira advises amphetamines...the Pee-Wee Herman documentary...Brad can't cope with Van Morrison being an asshole...Mira's severe vitamin D deficiency...Angry Adam returns...Bad Bunny drives middle-aged women wild...please save America...Lady Gaga is Latina now...the Epstein Files fallout continues...Ghislaine pleads the 5th...Brad learns about looksmaxxing...& more... *** ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad

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75:03

1021. Lily Meyer

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2026/02/10

Lily Meyer is the author of the novel The End of Romance, available from Viking.Meyer is a translator, a critic, and the author of the novel Short War. She is also a contributing writer at The Atlantic. Her stories and translations can be found in The Dial, The Drift, The Sewanee Review, The Southern Review, and many other journals, and her essays and criticism appear in outlets including Bookforum, The New Yorker, and The New York Times Book Review. *** ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Otherppl

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90:58

REPLAY: Ingrid Rojas Contreras on Colombia, Pablo...

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2026/02/08

Today on the program, a trip into the archive and a return to Episode 562, my conversation with Ingrid Rojas Contreras from 2019.Contreras was born and raised in Bogotá, Colombia. Her memoir The Man Who Could Move Clouds was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize, National Book Award, and National Book Critics Circle Award, and her debut novel Fruit of the Drunken Tree was the silver medal winner in First Fiction from the California Book Awards. Her essays and short stories have appeared in the New

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79:40

Elmo is in the Epstein Files

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2026/02/05

Volume 78 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...podcasting from the fetal position...Brad and Mira are spiritually broken after spending the weekend reading the Epstein Files...Mira doubles her psych meds....Mira goes to a trampoline park, gets injured....Happy birthday, Elmo...farewell to the wonderful Catherine O'Hara...reviewing this year's Grammy Awards...Brad's Fashion Corner....Olivia Dean is an angel sent from heaven?....Justin Bieber's on-stage underwear choices....Brad gets choked up during Bob

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71:32

Peter Schmidt on Attention Activism, Corporate Greed,...

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2026/02/03

Peter Schmidt is a member of an activist collection called The Friends of Attention. Together they have published a book called Attensity: A Manifesto of the Attention Liberation Movement, available from Crown.Schmidt is a writer and organizer originally from Missouri, now living in Brooklyn. He is a writer and the Editor-in-Chief of The Empty Cup, a dispatch on the politics of attention. Currently working on a book-length project about non-institutional communities of study he is a member of the

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REPLAY: Vesna Maric on War, Political Chaos,...

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2026/02/01

Today on the program, a trip into the archive and a return to Episode 696⁠, my conversation with Vesna Maric from March 2021.Maric was born in Mostar, Bosnia-Herzegovina, in 1976. She left Bosnia-Herzegovina at sixteen as part of a convoy of refugees. She went on to work for the BBC World Service and has written for Lonely Planet for over two decades. Vesna is an author of fiction and non-fiction, essays and a variety of journalism. Her memoir, Bluebird, was longlisted for The Orwell Prize. I

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95:30

Erika Kirk Free Solos Trump Tower

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2026/01/29

Volume 77 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad goes to the nursery...encounters an angry pit bull...confronts Mira about her unused Christmas gift...Mira rewatches Mad Men...Angry Adam returns with a vegeance...Kanye takes out a full-age ad in the Wall Street Journal...claims brain damage caused him to hate the Jews...Alex Honnold free solos a skyscraper...unleashes psychological trauma on millions....Erika Kirk begins another national tour...wants to 'make heaven crowded again'...&

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84:46

1020. Kathleen Boland

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2026/01/27

Kathleen Boland is the author of the debut novel Scavengers, now available from Viking. Boland’s fiction has appeared in Tin House, Conjunctions, Gulf Coast, and elsewhere, and she has received support from the Tin House Summer Workshop, the Bread Loaf Writers’ Conference, and the Vermont Studio Center. The former event director for Catapult/Counterpoint Press/Soft Skull Press, she earned her MFA from Louisiana State University, where she received the Robert Penn Warren Thesis

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