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Tasteland

Creative takes on media, marketing and technology from Daisy Alioto and Francis Zierer. Daisy is the CEO of Dirt Media, a next-generation entertainment brand using emerging technology to tell the coolest stories about culture and collecting. Francis is the editor of Creator Spotlight, a weekly newsletter about creators across the world of newsletters.New episodes every Wednesday.

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Ep. 49: Icks from the Six ft. Ariel Rubin

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2025/07/02

This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Webby Award-winning content creator, social strategist, and meme enthusiast, Ariel Rubin. Ariel is the the head of content at Air and one of Francis' greatest enemies.__Follow AriLinkedInWebsiteTwitter/X__Links & ReferencesThe Cycle Bookick.fyi on Instagram__Timestamps00:00 Introducing Ariel Rubin01:40 Recent icks07:33 LinkedIn hates Bonnie Blue11:45 Wife guys, one hell of a fraternity14:24 SaaS is the most honest industry20:19 Selling out is compulsory

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61:04

Ep. 48: Planting the internet ft. Nika Simovich Fisher

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2025/06/25

This week on Tasteland, Daisy and Francis are joined by design strategist, writer, journalist, and educator, Nika Simovich Fisher.__Nika Simovich FisherWebsiteLinkedInInstagram__Links & ReferencesMore about Nika's Hard Pack pieceNika's piece on Digitizing and Preserving Cyrillic Typefaces in SerbiaNika's website, WildflowersNika's piece on The evolution of the trash icon__Timestamps00:00 Intro01:41 Berlin fragrance experience05:49 The design of modern political campaigns15:06 The relationship

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37:25

Ep. 47: Venture Capital Culture ft. Maya Bakhai

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2025/06/18

This week we have part two of Daisy and Francis' conversation with Maya Bakhai, founder of Spice Capital, a venture capital firm focused on taking big bets in areas primed for rapid change in the coming decades.Listen to part one:SpotifyApple Podcasts__Maya BakhaiNewsletterLinkedInInstagramX/TwitterSpice CapitalWebsiteInstagramTikTokX/Twitter__Timestamps00:00 Introducing part two03:11 The role of small businesses in today's economy07:56 Asset class creep11:43 The rise of women in wealth

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63:18

Ep. 46: State of Skate ft. Cole Nowicki

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2025/06/11

This week on Tasteland, Daisy and Francis are joined by writer, producer and publisher Cole Nowicki. Cole runs the newsletter Simple Magic, a newsletter about skateboarding, the internet, and other means of escape.__ColeSimple MagicCole's booksInstagramBlueskyLinkedIn__Links & ReferencesDirt x Simple Magic Introducing... NosegrabCole's piece Boom and echoCole's piece Falling or failingCole's piece Is social media dead?Hardbody Skateboarding NEVER ENUFF IIIGail.com__00:00 Introducing Cole04:08

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61:07

Ep. 45: In defense of friction ft. Kyla Scanlon

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2025/06/04

This week Francis is joined by financial content creator, educator, and author, Kyla Scanlon. Kyla writes about everything from crypto to macroeconomics to similarities between grief and love, bringing the human aspect of economics to the forefront.__KylaIn This Economy?TikTokInstagramYouTubeTwitterNewsletterPodcast__ReferencesKyla's essay The Most Valuable Commodity in the World is FrictionKyla's essay Economic Lessons from the Screwtape LettersTasteland Ep. 14 ft. David Rudnick__Timestamps00:00:00

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63:24

Ep. 44: Cultural arbitrage ft. Maya Bakhai

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2025/05/28

This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Maya Bakhai, founder of Spice Capital, a venture capital firm focused on taking big bets in areas primed for rapid change in the coming decades.__Maya BakhaiNewsletterLinkedInInstagramX/TwitterSpice CapitalWebsiteInstagramTikTokX/Twitter__ReferencesLenny: How tech works really feel about work right nowLinkedIn Post: Why PRIME hit a $3.2B valuation overnightTBPN: Technology Brothers podcastThe Information: How the 'Technology Brothers' Seized Silicon

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63:30

Ep. 43: The Scented Mr. Ripley ft. Carly Silverman

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2025/05/21

This week on Tasteland, Daisy and Francis are joined by comedy, culture, and perfume writer, Carly Silverman. Carly is also a TV and video producer, and host of the new podcast Smell That Movie.__CarlySmell That MovieTwitter/XInstagramLinks & ReferencesDirt / Greta Rainbow: Where will the next literary movement come from?Cosmo / Carly Silverman: The PerfumeTok influencers have got it all wrongSubstack / Kyla Scanlon: The most valuable commodity is friction__Timestamps00:00 Introducing Carly

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65:44

Ep. 42: Old restaurants are the new restaurants ft....

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2025/05/14

This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Matt Rodbard, a seasoned writer, editor and author in the food and culture space. Matt is the Editor in Chief of the award winning food publication TASTE and co-host of podcast This is TASTE.__MattWebsiteInstagramLinkedInTasteWebsiteNewsletterPodcastYouTubeInstagramTwitter/X__Links & ReferencesNieman Lab piece on Clone__Timestamps00:00:00 Introducing Matt Rodbard00:01:39 Food content at The Webbys00:06:39 The shift to creator-first journalism00:14:32

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51:25

Ep. 41: Under the Henfluence ft. Tove Danovich

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2025/05/07

Francis is out of town this week and Daisy is joined by Tove Danovich, a journalist and writer who has featured in the New York Times, the Washington Post, The Ringer, and Dirt. She is the author of the 'Under the Henfluence: Inside the World of Backyard Chickens and the People Who Love Them', an immersive blend of chicken-keeping memoir and animal welfare reporting.--ToveWebsiteSubstackInstagramBluesky--Links & ReferencesDirt x Boys Club: clone.fyiTove's book list: Nine amazing books about

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64:27

Ep. 40: Bread and Magazines ft. Sarah Leonard of Lux

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2025/04/30

This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Sarah Leonard, editor in chief of Lux Magazine, a feminist magazine of politics and culture founded in 2021. Sarah is also a contributing editor to Dissent and The Nation, and her writing has been published in The New York Times, The Guardian, The New Republic, and elsewhere.__Lux MagazineWebsiteTwitter/XInstagramReferencesInterview with Sarah: Creative Independent__Timestamps00:00 American tourists irritate American tourist09:10 The joys and difficulties of

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59:25

Ep. 39: In defense of internet addiction ft. Boys Club

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2025/04/23

This week on Tasteland, Daisy and Francis are joined by Deana Burke and Natasha Hoskins of Boys Club, a media and creative studio. They're also the hosts of the Dumb B!tch Hour, a podcast for the deeply online, where they chat about all things tech, crypto, and pop culture news.__Boys ClubWebsiteTwitterDumb B!tch Hour Podcast__ReferencesBen's play: Rich Beyond Our Wildest DreamsFrancis' essay: What is the creator economy?__Timestamps00:00 Introducing Boys Club01:17 New verticals & what is the

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58:37

Ep. 38: Coachella hacks ft. Paula Mejía

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2025/04/16

This week Daisy and Francis are joined by versatile writer and editor, Paula Mejía. Paula specializes in arts and culture journalism and is currently a leading contributor at Dirt.__PaulaInstagramTwitter/XWebsite__Other referencesFrancis' brand sillage piecePaula's Barnes and Noble piece__Timestamps00:00 Introducing Paula Mejía00:28 Festival experiences03:40 Coachella emergency dental07:15 The best and worst of Coachella12:16 Flower crowns out, assless chaps in14:36 Spa day festival hack18:15 Hot

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61:31

Ep. 37: In defense of hospitality ft. Colin Nagy

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2025/04/09

This week Daisy and Francis talk to travel and hospitality writer, Colin Nagy. Colin is also the co-creator of the newsletter 'Why is this interesting?' Colin: https://x.com/CJNWhy is this interesting?: https://www.interesting.us00:00:00 Long live the girl moss00:04:08 The podcast mic and illusion of authority00:06:20 Credibility laundering: How to industry plant yourself00:11:01 Blockchain taste formalization00:13:51 Abstract theories applied to the blockchain00:16:43 Who gets to decide how we

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69:46

Ep. 36: Future Commerce ft. Phillip Jackson and Brian...

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2025/04/02

This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Phillip Jackson and Brian Lange from the Future Commerce podcast. What is the future of art in an AI world? Do we need more friction in our lives? Should AI feel shame? Listen to Future Commerce: https://www.futurecommerce.com/episodes00:00 Introduction to Phil and Brian01:46 Blank launch party05:52 OpenAI’s Studio Ghibli marketing ploy11:45 All that we’re left with is aura19:27 The value of the art is the creator25:00 Losing control of the environment art

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59:12

Ep. 35: Retro Tech ft. Kori Fuerst

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2025/03/26

This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Kori Fuerst, co-founder of Retrospekt, a consumer electronics company specialising in reviving retro tech for a new generation.Retrospekt: https://retrospekt.com00:00 Introducing Kori and Restrospekt02:35 Awkward police encounters06:12 Defaulting to the classic08:09 The unique Retrospekt office space11:14 Retro collaborations and IP licensing14:53 Transitioning from hobby to business22:28 Challenges with repairing newer tech23:57 Pop cultures effect on retro

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59:01

Ep. 34: Fragrance Rich ft. Trey Taylor

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2025/03/19

This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Trey Taylor, Gen Z consumer expert who has recently pivoted into the world of fragrances and just launched their perfume brand Serviette.Trey Taylor: https://x.com/treytylorServiette: https://serviette.nyc/pages/about?srsltid=AfmBOorQMQdp9fVeRd_vV-aXXIsRid3t8o2z9NL0ZZU19-3ZWsdFridM00:00 Introducing Trey and Serviette00:55 The symbiotic relationship between oral and written culture04:00 Serviette launch party09:08 The art and struggle of perfume creation14:07

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53:25

Ep. 33: On The Fence ft. Charlie Baker

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2025/03/12

This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Charlie Baker, editor of The Fence, a quarterly print magazine (and weekly newsletter) focused on life in the UK and Ireland.The Fence: https://www.the-fence.comCapital Letter: https://thefencecapitalletter.substack.com/00:00 Introducing Charlie Baker and The Fence01:51 The value exchange of a podcast appearance07:48 The Fence's unique and historic office space13:41 The Capital Letter: London's only newsletter20:52 Cultural exchange between the US and UK is

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60:58

Ep. 32: The Dark Mode Shift ft. Edmond Lau

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2025/03/05

This week Daisy and Francis are joined by cultural strategist, designer and art director, Edmond Lau. Edmond is known for his "luxury memes" and his recent coining of the term "dark mode shift".Follow EdmondLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/atelieredmondlau/X: https://x.com/nstlgiaxpress00:00 The rise of LinkedIn07:23 An outsider's perspective on NYC culture15:05 Edmond's unique career arc20:09 Creating digital profiles of personal taste28:28 The dark mode shift and ambiguous grief42:09 The

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55:09

Ep. 31: Art of the steal

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2025/02/26

There's no guest this week, which gives Daisy and Francis the chance to discuss why people hate Renoir, the simultaneously growing and eroding types of media literacy, SEO arbitrage, and why we need pay people to build beautiful things.00:00 The five things we did this week02:38 The nuances of art deaccessioning08:48 Why Francis has stopped sports betting11:14 Different types of media literacy and their current state14:36 The need for working-class media24:28 The death of content website

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68:20

Ep. 30: Mammalian E-girls ft. Katherine Dee

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2025/02/19

This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Katherine Dee, a reporter and internet culture writer since 2018. She's here to discuss the evolution of e-girls, their cultural significance, and the changing landscape of media and online identity. Katherine's X: https://x.com/default_friendKatherine's Substack: https://substack.com/@defaultfriend00:00:00 Unique art museum experiences00:04:15 Defining e-girls and their evolution00:10:50 Shifting media forms and declining media literacy00:19:55 The

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