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A Gay and A NonGay

James Barr and Dan Hudson

In a time where we"re all threatened by a rhetoric of hate from the people in power; A Gay And A NonGay challenges our differences. No matter who you are, or what you"re into, gay"s and nongay"s can & should be friends. "Highly Recommended" Guardian "One of the most fundamentally kind and funny podcasts in Britain" RadioTimes "A hilarious take on love, friendship and sex" TimeOut An independent podcast from James Barr (@imjamesbarr) and Dan Hudson (@DanHudson). Find us on Insta, TikTok, Twitter and

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32:06

Regional Gays & Lavender Marriages

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/08/20

We're here for another Summer episode of A Gay And A NonGay. With James at Edinburgh Fringe, we're focusing on the really big questions in life...So, after we debate killing a fly or not, James & Dan are talking about regional gays (who even are they?!), why lavender marriages are making a comeback and the bizarre rules around who gets financial support in relationships. James questions why we don’t just marry our friends, while Dan admits he’d rather be “unstable” than marry a bloke for tax

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27:51

Wearing A Rucksack With Both Straps

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/08/13

We have our first guest-free episode of A Gay And A NonGay in ages! We're diving into everything from backpack etiquette to Oasis concerts.We kick off with a burning question from their straightest friend: Why did we all believe that wearing a rucksack with both straps was gay? Queue a debate about bags, masculinity and school-era social dynamics. Dan also shares his incredible experience at the Oasis reunion concert, leading to a discussion about whether massive concerts like these serve as

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43:12

Why History Is Much More Gay Than You Think with...

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/08/06

We're diving in deep with historian and author Harry Tanner on this week's episode of A Gay And A NonGay! As a teenager, Harry was an evangelical Christian and came to believe homosexuality was a sin. Now, he lives a fulfilled gay life in London where he writes and teaches ancient languages and history. In his new book - The Queer Thing About Sin - Harry explores how the West invented and weaponised homophobia — tracing its origins from ancient Greece and Rome through to today’s culture

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10:02

Everyone's A Little Self-Obsessed with Eurovision...

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/07/30

We’re joined by Eurovision royalty on this episode of A Gay And A NonGay — the winner of the 2025 Eurovision Song Contest, JJ! Fresh from Vienna, JJ chats with James and Dan about everything from broken trophies and bubble wrap fails to navigating unrequited love in the queer community. They open up about the struggles of dating when everyone seems a little self-obsessed, the importance of listening to your friends’ red-flag warnings and why being true to yourself is key in love and life. Plus —

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31:35

Pride, Protest, and Politics with Eva Echo

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/07/23

We have a record-breaker on the podcast this week! It's Eva Echo's third appearance on A Gay And A NonGay, which puts her in a class of her own!Eva is a trans activity, NHS campaigner and is the Director of Innovation at Birmingham Pride. On this episode, James, Dan and Eva talk about pride as a protest amid rising transphobia in UK politics, the recent UK Supreme Court ruling on gender identity and the Download Festival toilet controversy. Plus, the hosts explore the difficulty of

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29:15

Staying Sober In The LGBTQ+ Community with Frankie...

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/07/16

We have pop royalty on this episode of A Gay And A NonGay as James and Dan are joined by actor, singer and famous brother Frankie Grande!Frankie's new album Hotel Rock Bottom is out now and covers everything from gay joy to his journey to sobriety. In this conversation, James, Dan and Frankie talk about sobriety in the gay community, the evolving nature of Pride and queer representation and the significance of chosen family. Frankie also shares amusing anecdotes from his life, including his

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37:24

Why Do So Many Men Have No Mates? with Max Dickins

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/07/02

On this episode of A Gay And A NonGay, James and Dan are joined by author, comedian and honorary sixth straight guest, Max Dickins!Max opens up about the inspiration behind his brilliant book Billy No-Mates — a deep-dive into male friendship sparked by the realisation he had no one to ask to be his best man. Together, they unpack the complexities of male friendships, masculinity, vulnerability, and why so many straight men are stuck in a “friendship recession”. The trio get hilariously real about

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38:29

Fighting HIV Stigma with Richard Angell

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/06/25

We’re joined by Richard Angell, OBE and Chief Executive of the Terrence Higgins Trust, on this week's episode of A Gay And A NonGay! The Terrence Higgins Trust is at the forefront of the fight against HIV, striving for a future where there are no new cases of HIV, where people living with HIV get the support they need and there is good sexual health for all. Richard joins James and Dan to talk about the ongoing fight against HIV and the stigma that still surrounds it. From the legacy of Terrence

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24:55

Love Yourself Before You Love Another

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/06/18

If you can't love yourself, how can you love anybody else? On this episode of A Gay And A NonGay, James and Dan are diving into the importance of self-love this Pride season.From exploring the transactional nature of relationships to discussing how to set expectations and the realities of compromise - we're coming to the realisation that love can look different, and being true to yourself through all of this self-discovery is of paramount importance. Happy Pride and we'll see you next week for

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36:22

What Is The Male Equivalent of Brunch? with Elf Lyons

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/06/11

We’re joined by the award winning Elf Lyons on this weeks episode of A Gay And A NonGay!She has literally been listed as one of the 50 Funniest Comedians of the 21st Century by The Telegraph, one of the ’20 Names of Now’ by British Vogue and is a multi-Edinburgh Fringe award winner – so you know we’ve got a good one! James, Dan and Elf talk about tackling trauma through comedy, embracing weirdness, flat earth theories, finding comfort in your identity and… what is the male equivalent of

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20:16

From Awards Ceremonies to Marathons!

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/06/04

On this week’s episode of A Gay And A NonGay, James and Dan are having a long overdue catch-up to chat about the recent goings on in their lives.From running marathons… to walking through tunnels, and the awkwardness of attending awards ceremonies. James and Dan also reflect on winning the Webby Award for Independent Podcast and give an inside peak into the celebrations! We’ll be back next week with your regularly scheduled programming! Follow A Gay & A NonGay TikTok:

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33:18

Gay Bars, Ghosts & Politics with Jeremy Atherton Lin

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/05/21

Gay love stories? We're here for them - especially when they speak to a broader message about the world we live in. Our guest on this episode of A Gay And A NonGay is an expert in this field.Jeremy Atherton Lin is the author of the National Book Critics Circle Award winner Gay Bar: Why We Went Out. His essays have appeared in the Times Literary Supplement and the Yale Review, for which he was a finalist for the National Magazine Award. His new book is Deep House, a queer love story set in an era

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16:41

We Won A Webby Award!

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/05/14

SEE US LIVE! We're doing a live show at the Kings Head Theatre in London on May 23rd. Visit ⁠⁠⁠wizardradio.lnk.to/tickets⁠⁠⁠ for tickets now.Yes... you read that right! A Gay And A NonGay officially won the Webby for Best Indie Podcast and it's all because of you, our amazing listeners. Please Note - this episode was recorded before the big win, so we still to talk about being nominated. On this episode of A Gay And A NonGay, James and Dan discuss the idea of gay people eating pot noodles

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21:23

Letters To My Younger Queer Self with Daniel Harding

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/05/07

SEE US LIVE! We're doing a live show at the Kings Head Theatre in London on May 23rd. Visit ⁠⁠wizardradio.lnk.to/tickets⁠⁠ for tickets now.If you could tell your younger self anything... what would you say? That's the question that journalist Daniel Harding is answering with his new book Letters To My Younger Queer Self, which includes letters written by the likes of comedian Suzi Ruffell, Nadia Whittome MP, Olympic gymnast Andrew Stamp, TV personality Ella Morgan and more as they reflect on

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22:33

Gay Love IRL vs Incest On The White Lotus

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/04/30

SEE US LIVE! We're doing a live show at the Kings Head Theatre in London on May 23rd. Visit ⁠wizardradio.lnk.to/tickets⁠ for tickets now.Does gay love always need to be shown as a weird power play in the media? Well, when major TV shows like The White Lotus portray a major gay romance as... keeping it in the family... these are the questions we're left asking! On this week's episode of A Gay And A NonGay, James & Dan talk about the scene that has been on everyone's lips and reflect on their

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25:34

If I Wasn't Gay... Who Would Appreciate This Bum?

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/04/16

On this week's episode of A Gay And A NonGay, we're talking about all things marriage! But, not how you would think...James & Dan are talking about how marriage impacts your physical appearance, and the differences in that between gay and straight men. This leads onto a bigger conversation around the societal perceptions of sexuality based on your look. Along the way, they explore the implications of male loneliness, the importance of maintaining individual passions and the necessity of inclusivity

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19:26

Is Laughter A Privilege?

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/04/09

Can comedy ever be homophobic? Well, of course it can, but on this week's episode of A Gay And A NonGay we're talking about the complexities of making jokes that involve sensitive topics like transphobia.James and Dan discuss whether the power of laughter can sometimes be a privilege and the impact that their identity has on their comedic approaches. Plus, stay until the end to get a teaser of next weeks episode! Follow A Gay & A NonGay TikTok: @gaynongay Instagram: @gaynongay YouTube:

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36:30

Resisting Moving Backwards with Divina de Campo

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/03/29

BFI Flare, London's LGBTQIA+ Film Festival, runs from 19th to 30th March. For more details, visit: https://whatson.bfi.org.uk/flare/Thank you to our sponsors... Secure your privacy with Surfshark! Go to surfshark.com/agaang for 4 extra months of Surfshark. Follow A Gay & A NonGay TikTok: @gaynongay Instagram: @gaynongay YouTube: @gaynongay Facebook: @gaynongay Website: gaynongay.com Email Us: us@gaynongay.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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28:47

I Identify As Love with Toby Marlow and Lucy Moss

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/03/26

We're joined by the creators of two of the theatre world's most successful new musicals of recent years! Toby Marlow and Lucy Moss are the creative minds behind the hit musicals Six and Why Am I So Single. On this episode of A Gay And A NonGay, James and Dan chat to Toby and Lucy about their journey from university theatre productions to global success - including their motivations and creative processes. They chat about the unexpected success of Six, the autobiographical inspirations for Why Am I

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27:32

It's Not That We Don't Like You... Criticism Is...

A Gay and A NonGay ·

2025/03/19

Do you know what a 'war pig' is? Dan's friend Olga thinks that James might! On this week's episode of A Gay And A NonGay, we're talking all about cultural references and critiques, including the importance of criticism.From debating whether we should be offended by the 'war pigs' term, to seeing how the community critiques art (look to Lady Gaga's new album) and the subjectivity of reviews and journalism... should you support art to support a community, even if you think the art itself isn't that

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