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The Pragmatic Engineer

Software engineering at Big Tech and startups, from the inside. Deepdives with experienced engineers and tech professionals who share their hard-earned lessons, interesting stories and advice they have on building software. Especially relevant for software engineers and engineering leaders: useful for those working in tech. newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com

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68:47

How Kubernetes is Built with Kat Cosgrove

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/05/14

Supported by Our Partners•⁠ WorkOS — The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS.•⁠ Modal⁠ — The cloud platform for building AI applications.•⁠ Cortex⁠ — Your Portal to Engineering Excellence.—Kubernetes is the second-largest open-source project in the world. What does it actually do—and why is it so widely adopted?In this episode of The Pragmatic Engineer, I’m joined by Kat Cosgrove, who has led several Kubernetes releases. Kat has been contributing to Kubernetes for several years, and originally got

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87:54

Building Windsurf with Varun Mohan

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/05/07

Supported by Our Partners•⁠ CodeRabbit⁠⁠ — Cut code review time and bugs in half. Use the code PRAGMATIC to get one month free.•⁠ Modal⁠ — The cloud platform for building AI applications—What happens when LLMs meet real-world codebases? In this episode of The Pragmatic Engineer, I am joined by Varun Mohan, CEO and Co-Founder of Windsurf. Varun talks me through the technical challenges of building an AI-native IDE (Windsurf) —and how these tools are changing the way software gets built. We

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75:27

How to work better with Product, as an Engineer with...

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/04/30

Supported by Our Partners•⁠ WorkOS — The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS.•⁠ The Software Engineer’s Guidebook: Written by me (Gergely) – now out in audio form as well.—How do you get product and engineering to truly operate as one team? Today, I’m joined by Ebi Atawodi, Director of Product Management at YouTube Studio, and a former product leader at Netflix and Uber.Ebi was the first PM I partnered with after stepping into engineering management at Uber, and we both learned a lot together. We

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86:08

Building Reddit’s iOS and Android app

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/04/23

Supported by Our Partners• Graphite — The AI developer productivity platform. • Sentry — Error and performance monitoring for developers.—Reddit’s native mobile apps are more complex than most of us would assume: both the iOS and Android apps are about 2.5 million lines of code, have 500+ screens, and a total of around 200 native iOS and Android engineers work on them. But it wasn’t always like this.In 2021, Reddit started to double down on hiring native mobile engineers, and they quietly rebuilt

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87:41

Working at Amazon as a software engineer – with Dave...

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/04/16

Supported by Our Partners• WorkOS — The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS.•⁠ Modal⁠ — The cloud platform for building AI applications• Vanta — Automate compliance and simplify security with Vanta.—What is it like to work at Amazon as a software engineer? Dave Anderson spent over 12 years at Amazon working closely with engineers on his teams: starting as an Engineering Manager (or, SDM in Amazon lingo) and eventually becoming a Director of Engineering. In this episode, he shares a candid look

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81:23

The Philosophy of Software Design – with John Ousterhout

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/04/09

Supported by Our Partners•⁠ CodeRabbit⁠⁠ — Cut code review time and bugs in half. Use the code PRAGMATIC to get one month free.•⁠ Modal⁠ — The cloud platform for building AI applications.—How will AI tools change software engineering? Tools like Cursor, Windsurf and Copilot are getting better at autocomplete, generating tests and documentation. But what is changing, when it comes to software design?Stanford professor John Ousterhout thinks not much. In fact, he believes that great software design is

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73:15

Stacked diffs and tooling at Meta with Tomas Reimers

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/04/02

Supported by Our Partners• Swarmia — The engineering intelligence platform for modern software organizations.• Sentry — Error and performance monitoring for developers.—Why did Meta build its own internal developer tooling instead of using industry-standard solutions like GitHub? Tomas Reimers, former Meta engineer and co-founder of Graphite, joins the show to talk about Meta's custom developer tools – many of which were years ahead of the industry.From Phababricator to Sandcastle and Butterflybot,

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58:24

Building Figma Slides with Noah Finer and Jonathan...

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/03/26

Supported by Our Partners• Graphite — The AI developer productivity platform. • Sonar — Code quality and code security for ALL code. • Chronosphere — The observability platform built for control.—How do you take a new product idea, and turn it into a successful product? Figma Slides started as a hackathon project a year and a half ago – and today it’s a full-on product, with more than 4.5M slide decks created by users. I’m joined by two founding engineers on this project: Jonathan Kaufman and Noah

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81:19

How Linux is built with Greg Kroah-Hartman

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/03/19

Supported by Our Partners• WorkOS — The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS.• Vanta — Automate compliance and simplify security with Vanta.—Linux is the most widespread operating system, globally – but how is it built? Few people are better to answer this than Greg Kroah-Hartman: a Linux kernel maintainer for 25 years, and one of the 3 Linux Kernel Foundation Fellows (the other two are Linus Torvalds and Shuah Khan). Greg manages the Linux kernel’s stable releases, and is a maintainer of multiple

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80:35

Developer Experience at Uber with Gautam Korlam

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/03/12

Supported by Our Partners• Sentry — Error and performance monitoring for developers.• The Software Engineer’s Guidebook: Written by me (Gergely) – now out in audio form as well.—In today’s episode of The Pragmatic Engineer, I am joined by former Uber colleague, Gautam Korlam. Gautam is the Co-Founder of Gitar, an agentic AI startup that automates code maintenance. Gautam was mobile engineer no. 9 at Uber and founding engineer for the mobile platform team – and so he learned a few things about

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72:37

Design-first software engineering: Craft – with...

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/03/05

Supported by Our Partners• WorkOS — The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS.• The Software Engineer’s Guidebook: Written by me (Gergely) – now out in audio form as well• Augment Code — AI coding assistant that pro engineering teams love—Not many people know that I have a brother: Balint Orosz. Balint is also in tech, but in many ways, is the opposite of me. While I prefer working on backend and business logic, he always thrived in designing and building UIs. While I opted to work at more

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67:49

The man behind the Big Tech comics – with Manu Cornet

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/02/26

Supported by Our Partners• WorkOS — The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS.• Graphite — The AI developer productivity platform. • Formation — Level up your career and compensation with Formation.—In today’s episode of The Pragmatic Engineer, I am joined by a senior software engineer and cartoonist, Manu Cornet. Manu spent over a decade at Google, doing both backend and frontend development. He also spent a year and a half at Twitter before Elon Musk purchased it and rebranded it to X. But what

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82:39

Developer productivity with Dr. Nicole Forsgren...

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/02/19

Supported by Our Partners• WorkOS — The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS• CodeRabbit — Cut code review time and bugs in half• Augment Code — AI coding assistant that pro engineering teams love—How do you architect a live streaming system to deal with more load than it’s ever been done before? Today, we hear from an architect of such a system: Ashutosh Agrawal, formerly Chief Architect of JioCinema (and currently Staff Software Engineer at Google DeepMind.)We take a deep dive into video

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62:12

Live streaming at world-record scale with Ashutosh...

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/02/12

Supported by Our Partners• WorkOS — The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS• CodeRabbit — Cut code review time and bugs in half• Augment Code — AI coding assistant that pro engineering teams love—How do you architect a live streaming system to deal with more load than it’s ever been done before? Today, we hear from an architect of such a system: Ashutosh Agrawal, formerly Chief Architect of JioCinema (and currently Staff Software Engineer at Google DeepMind.)We take a deep dive into video

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74:44

AI Engineering with Chip Huyen

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/02/05

Supported by Our Partners• Swarmia — The engineering intelligence platform for modern software organizations.• Graphite — The AI developer productivity platform. • Vanta — Automate compliance and simplify security with Vanta.—On today’s episode of The Pragmatic Engineer, I’m joined by Chip Huyen, a computer scientist, author of the freshly published O’Reilly book AI Engineering, and an expert in applied machine learning. Chip has worked as a researcher at Netflix, was a core developer at NVIDIA

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89:32

Building a best-selling game with a tiny team – with...

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/01/29

Supported by Our Partners• Formation — Level up your career and compensation with Formation. • WorkOS — The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS• Vanta — Automate compliance and simplify security with Vanta.—In today’s episode of The Pragmatic Engineer, I’m joined by Jonas Tyroller, one of the developers behind Thronefall, a minimalist indie strategy game that blends tower defense and kingdom-building, now available on Steam.Jonas takes us through the journey of creating Thronefall from start to

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74:25

Observability: the present and future, with Charity...

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/01/22

Supported by Our Partners• Sonar — Trust your developers – verify your AI-generated code.• Vanta —Automate compliance and simplify security with Vanta.—In today's episode of The Pragmatic Engineer, I'm joined by Charity Majors, a well-known observability expert – as well as someone with strong and grounded opinions. Charity is the co-author of "Observability Engineering" and brings extensive experience as an operations and database engineer and an engineering manager. She is the cofounder and CTO

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75:30

“The Coding Machine” at Meta with Michael Novati

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/01/15

Supported by Our Partners• Vanta — Automate compliance and simplify security with Vanta.• WorkOS — The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS.—In today’s episode of The Pragmatic Engineer, I’m joined by Michael Novati, Co-founder and CTO of Formation. Before launching Formation, Michael spent eight years at Meta, where he was recognized as the top code committer company-wide for several years. The “Coding Machine” archetype was modeled after Michael at the company.In our conversation, we talk about

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62:52

Confessions of a Big Tech recruiter

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2025/01/08

Supported by Our Partners• DX — DX is an engineering intelligence platform designed by leading researchers. • Vanta — Automate compliance and simplify security with Vanta.—In today’s episode of The Pragmatic Engineer, I catch up with one of the best tech recruiters I’ve had the opportunity to work with: Blake Stockman, a former colleague of mine from Uber. Blake built a strong reputation in the recruiting world, working at tech giants like Google, Meta, and Uber. He also spent time with Y Combinator

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59:17

Shipping projects at Big Tech with Sean Goedecke

The Pragmatic Engineer ·

2024/12/18

Supported by Our PartnerDX⁠ → DX is an engineering intelligence platform designed by leading researchers—In today’s episode of The Pragmatic Engineer, I’m joined by Sean Goedecke, Staff Software Engineer at GitHub. Sean is widely known for his viral blog post, “How I ship projects at big tech companies.” In our conversation, he shares how to successfully deliver projects in large tech companies.Drawing from his experiences at GitHub and Zendesk, Sean reflects on key lessons learned, and we discuss

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