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That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they"re based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun! Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have

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127:42

Blood Brothers w/ Judy Reyes

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/01/18

Liza and Kara cover SVU’s “Blood Brothers” (Season 13, Episode 3), the background of the Arnold Schwarzenegger affair, and chat with the talented Judy Reyes. SOURCES: LA Times - 1 LA Times - 2 NY Daily News Wikipedia Hello! The Sun Sydney Morning Harold WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: North American Council on Adoptable Children - https://nacac.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Producer’s Backend” (Season 16, Episode 3). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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115:04

One More Tale of Two Victims w/ Johnny Pemberton

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/01/11

In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode “One More Tale of Two Victims (Season 23, Episode 4), the case of Trevor Lawler, and interview actor (and friend!) Johnny Pemberton. SOURCES: BBC - 1 BBC - 2 Independent Daily Mail Manchester Evening News WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: RAINN - https://www.rainn.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Blood Brothers” (Season 13, Episode 3). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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107:02

Name w/ Paula Garcés

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2022/01/04

This week, Liza and Kara break down “Name” (Season 7, Episode 7), the mysterious disappearances of “The Boy in the Box” and “The Clinton Avenue Five,” and interview the multi-talented Paula Garcés. SOURCES: NY Times Philadelphia Inquirer NJ 101.5 CBS New York NJ.com - 1 NJ.com - 2 NJ.com - 3 BlackHistory.com Crime Reads WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Cold Case Foundation - https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/ Next week’s episode will be “One More Tale of Two Victims” (Season 23, Episode 4).

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114:39

Hell's Kitchen w/ Sara Bues

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/12/28

Today, Liza and Kara discuss “Hell’s Kitchen” (Season 20, Episode 8), the Mario Batali and Brett Kavanaugh allegations, and chat with actor Sara Bues. SOURCES: Axios - 1 Axios - 2 Wikipedia - 1 Wikipedia - 2 The New Yorker LA Times Harvard Business Review Eater - 1 Eater - 2 Newsweek ABC News Fox Lexington WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Hollaback! - https://www.ihollaback.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Name” (Season 7, Episode 7). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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139:48

Presumed Guilty w/ Dennis O'Hare

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/12/21

In honor of the holiday season, Kara and Liza recap an SVU Christmas episode “Presumed Guilty” (Season 14, Episode 10), talk about the long history of child abuse in the Catholic Church, and interview legendary character actor Denis O’Hare. SOURCES: CNN BBC NY Times - 1 NY Times - 2 NY Times - 3 NY Times - 4 NY Times - 5 NY Times - 6 NY Times - 7 NY Times - 8 NY Times - 9 NY Times - 10 Herman Law ProPublica USA Today NY Post The Limited Times Courthouse News Washington Post Newcastle Herald WHAT

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113:17

Pathological w/ Erin Wilhelmi

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/12/14

This week, Liza and Kara talk “Pathological” (Season 19, Episode 10), the story of Gypsy Rose and Dee Dee Blanchard, and interview the episode’s lead, Erin Wilhelmi. SOURCES: Mommy Dead and Dearest - HBO Biography People Buzzfeed News Wikipedia WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Mommy Dead and Dearest (HBO) - https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/mommy-dead-and-dearest Next week’s episode will be “Presumed Guilty” (Season 14, Episode 10). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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127:05

Pure w/ Karen Kilgariff

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/12/07

Today Kara and Liza celebrate the one year anniversary of That’s Messed Up! They cover the SVU episode “Pure” (Season 6, Episode 18), the case of Bobbie Jo Stinnett, and interview SVU superfan Karen Kilgariff. SOURCES: KMBC NBC News The Sun Wikipedia Topeka Capital-Journal BBC WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Cornell Center on the Death Penalty Worldwide - https://deathpenaltyworldwide.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Pathological” (Season 19, Episode 10). Learn more about your ad

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89:29

Poison w/ Tom Skerritt

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/11/30

Today, Kara and Liza recap “Poison” (Season 5, Episode 24), the story of Patricia Stallings, and interview legendary actor, Tom Skerritt. SOURCES: Unsolved Mysteries People Wikipedia WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Innocence Project - https://innocenceproject.org Next week’s episode will be “Pure” (Season 6, Episode 18). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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118:54

Scavenger w/ Elizabeth Franz

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2021/11/23

Liza and Kara cover SVU’s “Scavenger” (Season 6, Episode 4), the BTK Killer, and interview Tony-winning character actor, Elizabeth Franz. SOURCES: Biography - 1 Biography - 2 The Wichita Eagle Wikipedia ABC News A&E CNN USA Today The Sun Rolling Stone WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: “Confessions of a Serial Killer: The Untold Story of Dennis Rader, the BTK Killer” by Katherine Ramsland https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29464589-confession-of-a-serial-killer Next week’s episode will be “Poison”

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108:50

Witness w/ Saidah Arrika Ekulona

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/11/16

On today’s episode, Kara and Liza talk “Witness” (Season 11, Episode 16) and the atrocities against women in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, plus an interview with actress Saidah Arrika Ekulona, who plays one of SVU’s most powerful characters, Nardalee Ula. SOURCES: Time Huffpost JSTOR Enough Project BBC The Guardian Wikipedia WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Women for Women International - https://www.womenforwomen.org/where-we-work/democratic-republic-congo Next week’s episode will be

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109:57

Imprisoned Lives w/ Agatha Nowicki

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/11/09

This week, Kara and Liza talk “Imprisoned Lives” (Season 15, Episode 2), the heinous crimes of Ariel Castro, and interview SVU two-timer, Agatha Nowicki. SOURCES: NY Times - 1 NY Times - 2 NY Times - 3 NY Times - 4 NY Times - 5 NY Times - 6 NY Times - 7 News 5 Cleveland ABC News - 1 ABC News - 2 Lilyroselee.com A&E People Cleveland 19 News NZ Herald CNN WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Cleveland Missing - https://clevelandmissing.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Witness” (Season 11, Episode 16).

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91:27

Taboo w/ Schuyler Fisk

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/11/02

Today’s episode recaps “Taboo” (Season 7, Episode 14), the story of Holly Ashcraft, and Liza and Kara talk with the extremely talented Schuyler Fisk. SOURCES: NBC News LA Times Whittier Daily News Daily Trojan CBS Los Angeles Missoulian WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Planned Parenthood - https://www.plannedparenthood.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Imprisoned Lives” (Season 15, Episode 2). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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117:51

Chameleon w/ Sharon Lawrence

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/10/26

Today, Kara and Liza cover “Chameleon” (Season 4, Episode 1), serial killer Aileen Wuornos, and talk with the chameleon herself, Sharon Lawrence. SOURCES: NY Times - 1 NY Times -2 Jacksonville.com Dignity: A Journal of Analysis of Exploitation and Violence Ms. Magazine “Aileen: Life and Death of a Serial Killer” documentary Wikipedia WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Her Whole Truth - https://www.instagram.com/herwholetruth/ Next week’s episode will be “Taboo” (Season 7, Episode 14). Learn more

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124:04

Loophole w/ Joel de la Fuente

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/10/19

Liza and Kara cover “Loophole” (Season 8, Episode 13), the Willowbrook State School abuse scandal, and talk with TARU Tech Morales, aka actor Joel de la Fuente. SOURCES: NY Times - 1 NY Times - 2 NY Times - 3 NY Times - 4 NY Times - 5 Timeline NPR WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Arc - https://thearc.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Chameleon” (Season 4, Episode 1). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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104:55

Holden's Manifesto w/ John Karna

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/10/12

This week, Kara and Liza talk “Holden’s Manifesto” (Season 16, Episode 4), the 2014 Isla Vista killings committed by Elliot Rodger, and interview Holden himself, actor John Karna. SOURCES: NY Times CNN Wikipedia Chicago Tribune LA Times - 1 LA Times - 2 Noozhawk The Cut Sydney Morning Herald BBC ABC News WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: "The Rage of the Incels" by Jia Tolentino in The New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-rage-of-the-incels Next week’s episode will be

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114:59

Downloaded Child w/ Meghann Fahy

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/10/05

On today’s episode, Liza and Kara cover “Downloaded Child” (Season 15, Episode 19), the story of Amy Unknown, and talk with the episode's lead actress, Meghann Fahy. SOURCES: Lincoln Journal Star Washington Post NY Times Wikipedia - 1 Wikipedia - 2 Slate Tyler Morning Telegraph WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The FBI’s Child Pornography Victim Assistance (CPVA) Program https://www.fbi.gov/resources/victim-services/cpva Next week’s episode will be “Holden’s Manifesto” (Season 16, Episode 4).

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125:56

Pretend w/ Michael Welch

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/09/28

Kara and Liza talk “Pretend” (Season 8, Episode 21), the fascinating case of Treva Throneberry, and interview the charming Michael Welch. SOURCES: ABC News The Olympian Texas Monthly Wikipedia WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Together We Rise - https://www.togetherwerise.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Downloaded Child” (Season 15, Episode 19). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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98:49

The Book of Esther w/ Rebekah Kennedy

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/09/21

This week, Liza and Kara cover SVU’s “The Book of Esther” (Season 19, Episode 20), the Turpin Family, and talk with Esther herself, actress Rebekah Kennedy. SOURCES: NY Times - 1 NY Times - 2 NY Times - 3 NY Times - 4 Washington Post 60 Minutes Australia WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Journey Free - https://journeyfree.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Pretend” (Season 8, Episode 21). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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104:40

Mother w/ Jon Abrahams

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/09/14

This episode covers “Mother” (Season 5, Episode 3), the case of Margaret Bean-Bayog, and Kara and Liza talk with the episode’s guest star, Jon Abrahams. SOURCES: NY Times - 1 NY Times - 2 Boston Magazine Greensboro.com The Harvard Crimson - 1 The Harvard Crimson - 2 Newsweek WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Therapy Exploitation Link Line - https://therapyabuse.org/ Next week’s episode will be “The Book of Esther” (Season 19, Episode 20). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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111:51

Signature w/ Erika Christensen

That"s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast ·

2021/09/07

This episode covers “Signature” (Season 9, Episode 12), the case of the Toy-Box Killer, and Liza and Kara interview a true star and the lead of this episode, Erika Christensen. SOURCES: NY Times - 1 NY Times - 2 Wikipedia Oxygen All That’s Interesting WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: “Cries in the Desert: The Shocking True Story of a Sadistic Torturer” by John Glatt https://www.amazon.com/Cries-Desert-Shocking-Sadistic-Torturer-ebook/dp/B003J564ZI Next week’s episode will be “Mother” (Season 5, Episode

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