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Pop Fiction Women

In Pop Fiction Women we deep-dive into the complicated women of books, movies and TV shows, along with the women that bring them to life behind the scenes. Think Fleabag and Phoebe Waller Bridge, Normal People and Sally Rooney, and so much more. In each episode you can expect us to: * Break down the protagonist as we ask what makes her complicated? * Identify the best scenes, which can mean sweetest, funniest, or most badass. Anything we love. * Recount the cringiest scenes. The ones that make you

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10:20

Friday Preview 9/23: What We're Reading, Watching,...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2022/09/23

Behind the scenes at PFW, we're gushing about RHOBH, The White Lotus, Two Nights In Lisbon, Physical with Rose Byrne, Part of Your World, and Poster Girl.NO SPOILERS.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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26:20

Jasmine Guillory & 'Drunk on Love': Complicated...

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2022/09/20

On this episode of Complicated Conversations we are thrilled to chat with New York Times bestselling author Jasmine Guillory. Her novels include The Wedding Date, the Reese's Book Club selection The Proposal, and By The Book. Her intoxicating and sparkling new romance, Drunk on Love, is out now!We chat with Jasmine about the development of her complicated protagonist, Margot, and what came to her first about this character; how much we also related to Margot’s love interest, Luke, trying to find

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58:48

Tell Me Lies Recap, Episodes 2-4: The Ensemble Shines

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2022/09/14

Did you know that all the episodes are named after songs, just like the original story? The novel invokes Stevie Nicks' (sweet) Little Lies and Stevie even gets a shout-out in the acknowledgements. For the show:Ep 1 - Lightning Strikes by LiveEp 2 - Hot-Blooded by ForeignerEp 3 - "We don't touch, we collide", a lyric from the Iggy Pop song, FootballEp 4 - Take off your pants and jacket, the album from Blink 182In these episodes we feel the departure from the book, and it's totally working for us

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37:45

Katelyn Monroe Howes & 'The Awoken': Complicated...

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2022/09/13

On this episode of Complicated Conversations we chat with Katelyn Monroe Howes about her debut novel, The Awoken, a cinematic, speculative debut about a woman who undergoes cryogenic preservation at the time of her death and wakes up a century later in a world where her very life is a crime.Katelyn shares the personal story that inspired The Awoken, even though she didn’t consciously know she was writing about her own death. Clearly, the writer's subconscious is a real thing! We discuss how The

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39:29

Tell Me Lies Recap, Episode 1: Toxicity and the Joan...

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2022/09/08

We’ve got your recap of episode one of the new Hulu series, Tell Me Lies, and it comes out of the gate HOT. Based on the novel by Carola Lovering, and adapted for television of Meaghan Oppenheimer, Tell Me Lies follows a tumultuous but intoxicating relationship as it unfolds over the course of 8 years, from college to young adulthood. Episode one has Carinn peering with one eye open at her younger self, looking back on toxic relationships, while Kate wonders if maybe she just kept her emotions so

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39:43

Elyssa Friedland & 'The Most Likely Club':...

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2022/09/06

On this episode of Complicated Conversations we are joined by Elyssa Friedland, the acclaimed author of four previous novels. Her fifth, The Most Likely Club, is about a group of friends who, at their milestone high school reunion, make a pact to finally achieve their high school superlatives one way or another. The Most Likely Club is out now and was just named a Book of The Month pick!We chat with Elyssa about the four women and lifelong friends at the heart of this novel and the relatable midlife

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37:57

Surface finale: we need more!

Pop Fiction Women ·

2022/09/02

The final two episodes of AppleTv+’s Surface are out now! In the end how much of our destiny is the result of fate vs one’s own free will? Do you get to choose if you’re good or bad? Those are some of the big questions this series explores and ones we love to debate on this podcast.Speaking of questions, we’ve come to the finale and we still have a few. We’re also not sure how to feel about some characters by the end — even Sophie — but they’re certainly nuanced and complicated! Perhaps all of this

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87:55

'Carrie Soto Is Back' & Taylor Jenkins Reid

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2022/08/31

On today’s episode we discuss a “banger” of a book: Carrie Soto Is Back, by New York Times bestselling author Taylor Jenkins Reid. The novel tells the story of a legendary athlete attempting a comeback when the world considers her past her prime. In the end we declare that, thanks to this book and our discussion, Carinn is back, Kate is back and Carinn & Kate are back!! Oh, and Carrie is too!Complicated Woman: Carrie Soto. We have a lot to say about Carrie, a character who unapologetically wears

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32:01

SIDEBAR: Motherhood, Ambition, Evolution: Serena...

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2022/08/29

On today’s “sidebar” episode we discuss Serena Williams' recent Vogue article, “Serena Williams Says Farewell to Tennis On Her Own Terms—And In Her Own Words.” Serena is the epitome of a complicated woman and we had so much to say about the conflict she felt. How can she reconcile her commitment to being the world’s greatest tennis player with her desire to be a mother and expand her family? And how can us mere mortals do it? (Hint: it involves letting go of high expectations). Her words tell a

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27:50

LaToya Watkins & 'Perish': Complicated Conversations...

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2022/08/24

On this episode of Complicated Conversations we are joined by Dr. LaToya Watkins. Her debut novel, PERISH, is a sprawling story about a Black Texan family that explores the effects of inherited trauma and intergenerational violence as the family comes together to say goodbye to their matriarch on her deathbed.We chat with LaToya about the pivotal opening scene of the novel and how it sets the tone for the rest of the story as well as the development of Helen Jean, the complicated matriarch; what

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37:20

Karin Slaughter & 'Girl, Forgotten': Complicated...

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2022/08/23

On this episode of Complicated Conversations we welcome back the hilarious, talented, and generous Karin Slaughter. Published in 120 countries with more than 40 million copies sold across the globe, Karin Slaughter is the author of more than twenty instant New York Times bestselling novels, including the Edger-nominated Cop Town and standalone novels Pretty Girls, The Good Daughter, and Pieces of Her. Pieces of Her is a #1 Netflix original series starring Toni Collette and Bella Heathcote. Karin is

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42:05

SURFACE Recap Ep 5-6: Cool Scenes, Big Answers, And...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2022/08/19

SURFACE Recap Ep 5-6: we get some really amazing scenes and some big answers, but we still have no idea who to trust. These two episodes are by far the best in the entire series. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Natasha Sizlo & 'All Signs Point To Paris':...

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2022/08/17

On today’s Complicated Conversation we are joined by Natasha Sizlo. Her memoir, All Signs Point To Paris, is a story of Natasha’s second chance at love and life, and it's out now!The book has all the things we love: second chance love stories, astrology, seeking answers from the universe, being open to finding yourself in the process, and how grief can propel you forward to follow your heart. We chat with Natasha about how she went from being a total skeptic about astrology to seeing it as a way to

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50:33

Mary Adkins & 'Palm Beach': Complicated Conversations...

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2022/08/16

On today’s Complicated Conversation we are thrilled to welcome back Mary Adkins to discuss her third novel, Palm Beach, which is out now in paperback. It was a reunion of old friends between Carinn, Kate and Mary, who has the distinction of being our very first author interview many years ago!We chat with Mary about how a college creative writing professor temporarily derailed Mary’s dreams of writing fiction and how she found her way back; why we all need to learn to ignore the applause and follow

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20:42

Veronica West & 'Surface': Complicated Conversations...

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2022/08/12

On this episode of Complicated Conversations we welcome Veronica West, showrunner, writer, creator and executive producer of the Apple TV+ series SURFACE, a twisty psychological thriller that asks the question: what if you woke up one day and didn’t know your own secrets?We chatted with Veronica about the creation of Sophie Ellis, the “interesting and skeptical and complicated” lead of this series (played brilliantly by Gugu Mbatha-Raw); how, despite losing her memory, Sophie still has her intuition

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Annabel Monaghan & 'Nora Goes Off Script":...

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2022/08/09

In today’s Complicated Conversation we are joined by Annabel Monaghan, author of Nora Goes Off Script, this summer’s endearing, heart-warming rom com novel!* We talk to a lot of lawyers turned authors, but Annabel was an investment banker who took the long road to realizing her childhood dream of becoming a writer. Carinn and Annabel really relate about following their joy! (01:31)* Listen to hear how Annabel had to write almost 100 pages before she really got to know her protagonist, Nora, and what

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42:33

SURFACE Recap Ep 2-4: Who Can We Trust?

Pop Fiction Women ·

2022/08/05

This love triangle has us feeling bounced around like a pinball, how about you? We’re peeling back the layers of SURFACE and all the characters of Hello Sunshine's psychological thriller on AppleTV+! No one is what they seem and everyone is complicated. Situations that seem sinister could be explained away, but should they be? Pieces of Sophie’s past are being revealed, but at this point we still have so many questions. We don’t have answers or know who to trust but we definitely want to watch

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36:13

Gillian McAllister & 'Wrong Place Wrong Time':...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2022/08/02

Can you stop a murder after it's already happened? That is the question we explore on this episode of Complicated Conversations. We are joined by Gillian McAllister to discuss the premise of her seventh novel, Wrong Place Wrong Time.* After we gush about how much we loved this book, we discuss Jen, the lawyer, wife, mother, who must save her son from the unthinkable. (03:15)* This book is undoubtedly a page-turning thriller, but it has so much heart. We had to know how Gillian managed to nail the

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31:48

SURFACE Recap Ep 1: Worst Nightmares and Existential...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2022/07/29

Produced by Reese Witherspoon’s Hello Sunshine and written and run by television veteran, Veronica West, Surface is an eight-episode psychological thriller. After the pilot episode, Carinn has nightmares about the slippery nature of reality when recounted by other perspectives, and Kate has an existential crisis of identity. All these BIG questions, as well as a twisty plot that has us guessing every step of the way. This show asks us all to look below the SURFACE in more ways than one. Are you

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37:45

Megan Miranda & 'The Last To Vanish': Complicated...

Pop Fiction Women ·

2022/07/26

On this episode of Complicated Conversations we chat with Megan Miranda about her new novel, The Last To Vanish. * After Megan shares a little bit about The Last To Vanish, we discuss her intriguing protagonist Abby and her relationship with Cutter’s Pass, how she fits in, and how she holds the keys to unravel its secrets. (04:14)* We discuss Cory and Celeste, and discuss Megan’s love for creating antagonists. Relationships are key! (07:38)* Megan shares her journey from YA author to adult fiction

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