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The Body of Evidence

Dr. Christopher Labos

Dr. Christopher Labos and guests use the body of evidence to go beyond science and medicine headlines and hype. All to help you develop your critical thinking skills so that when you google your symptoms, you won"t believe you’re going to die tomorrow. The Body of Evidence is your weekly dose of clarity on complex health topics and the often-sketchy medical information found online. Hosted by cardiologist Dr. Christopher Labos and featuring a rotating cast of co-hosts and guests, this podcast

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48:18

Interview - Cameron Smith on Evolution and Anthropology

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/11/18

Jonathan and Chris interview Cameron M. Smith, professor in the department of anthropology at Portland State University. They discuss what is anthropology; what it’s like teaching evolution in the United States; what the theory of evolution is; what we’ve learned from the fossil record; whether or not humans are still evolving; what a hominin is; the revival of Lamarck’s theory; and Cameron’s real-life adventures on inhospitable terrain and his prediction for humanity’s new space age. And you will

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043 - Allergies and Organic Food

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/11/04

A risky session on Tinder brings up the topic of Chris’ cat allergy. Meanwhile, comedian Jacob Meza learns from college students that the rise in allergies might be due to chemicals, antibiotics, or GMOs. Back in the studio, the boys talk about just how common allergies are, problems with the hygiene hypothesis, and what treatments are available. Also: is there a link between organic food consumption and cancer risk, and Jonathan talks about how amazing QED was while Chris reports back on his

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042 - Childbirth and Crowdfunding Quackery

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/10/07

It’s Two Men and a Baby as Jonathan realizes that Chris takes odd bets and ends up with an infant to care for. Has childbirth been over- or under-medicalized? Ada talks to clueless university students about the miracle of life. Do epidurals make mothers too “chill”? The boys discuss maternal mortality rates, what can go wrong while giving birth, and water births (wait! how does the baby not drown?). Also: how can crowdfunding platforms identify appeals for quack cancer treatments, and the difference

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51:57

041 - Cell Phones and Peanut Allergies

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/09/02

Lost on the highway, the boys look for a cell phone signal and wonder about the potential dangers of their lifeline. Comedian Jacob Meza explores the possibilities of groin cancer while learning that some people may be scared of cell phones but are unwilling to give them up. Back in the studio, Chris and Jonathan discuss fava beans; the Larry King Show and brain cancer; subgroup analyses (which lie, they always lie); what male rats got that other rodents didn’t; infertility; ICQ; and pacemakers

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59:46

Interview - Michael Marshall

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/08/19

Jonathan and Chris interview Michael “Marsh” Marshall, project director of the Good Thinking Society and the vice-president of the Merseyside Skeptics Society in England. They discuss how Marsh and Simon Singh met; what a skeptical charity does; why Marsh interviews people with fringe beliefs; changing people’s minds with nudges; the Good Thinking Society’s campaign to stop the NHS from funding homeopathy in the UK; how PR releases get used by journalists to create “churnalism”; and crowdfunding

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040 - Omega-3s and the Mediterranean Diet

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/08/05

Returning from a memorable fishing trip, the boys tackle the evidence behind omega-3s, a group of molecules known as “PUFAs!” (try not to laugh). They talk about the EPA; kinky and bent molecules; carnivorous chickens; cardiovascular disease and brain development. Also: how big trials can go wrong; and an interview with Dr. Emma Jones on palliative care, cultivating quality of life, collaborations in paediatric oncology, and myths about medicinal cannabis! Julia Belluz’s article about the PREDIMED

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The State of Skepticism

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/07/24

Jonathan was recently part of a panel discussion on the state of skepticism: what the movement does poorly and how to move forward. The recording was hosted by Grant Ritchey and Clay Jones of the Prism Podcast (and also of Science-Based Medicine), and featured Lydia Finch and Michael Marshall. You can find the episode by looking up the Prism Podcast on your favourite podcatcher or by clicking on this link. If you stay until the end of the hour you will hear Chris clapping.

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39:47

Special - Science Is a Human Enterprise, Part 2: You...

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/07/05

Part 2 of 2. Chris and Jonathan sit down to demystify how scientific research is conducted and what actually goes on in a lab. They talk about the following: data analysis; statistical literacy among scientists; cherry picking; biostatisticians’ greatest complaint; “students should figure it out!”; meta-analyses; hypothesis testing; publishing; structure of a paper; the secret appendices; peer review; open data; registered reports; types of journals; opening a Dairy Queen; and things are improving

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45:54

Special - Science Is a Human Enterprise, Part 1:...

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/06/07

Chris and Jonathan sit down to demystify how scientific research is conducted and what actually goes on in a lab. They talk about the following: defining terms; Ang Lee’s Hulk; laboratory hierarchy; graduate studies; postdocs; salaries; job opportunities; what scientists do with the 61 hours a week they work on average; funding; managerial skills; hiring practices; harassement; rewarding results instead of the process; subpar research; and negative findings. Also, Simpsons references galore. Theme

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59:39

Interview - Science Moms

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/05/03

Jonathan and Chris interview three of the Science Moms: Alison Bernstein, Kavin Senapathy, and Natalie Newell. They discuss a bevy of important topics, such as the Dirty Dozen shopping list; the social justice aspect of GE and anti-GE activism; Monsanto; conflicts of interest in research; epigenetic; and, of course, Natalie’s film, Science Moms; also, Chris’ Spider-Man Theory of What Scares People. The Science Moms documentary can be accessed at ScienceMomsDoc.com, while the moms themselves

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039 - Keto Diet and Vaginal Dryness

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/04/08

A shameless Chris removes his belt at an all-you-can-eat buffet, which leads Jonathan to talk about the keto diet. How does it compare to other diets and will it do anything to your diabetes, cancer, or epilepsy? Learn about the mysterious food stuff known was “tufo”; hear someone say “carby” a lot; and watch in horror as Jonathan drinks a whole bottle of nail polish remover. Also: how does hormone replacement therapy compare to vaginal moisturizers for vaginal dryness; Chris talks about how much he

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36:42

Interview - Ryan Armstrong on Chiropractic

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/03/18

Jonathan interviews public health and consumer advocate Ryan Armstrong, in whom the College of Chiropractors of Ontario is now taking a special interest. They discuss the internal split between “straights” and “mixers”; the Canadian origin of the chiropractic discipline; the College’s monitoring of Ryan’s public criticism; the divine claims of some practitioners; the safety of fast thrusts; the chiropractor-antivaxx link; and more. Ryan weighs in on two important questions: can chiropractors

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49:12

038 - Coffee and Medical Errors

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/03/08

The podcast’s third-year anniversary celebration turns out to be the perfect time to discuss coffee. Does it prevent disease… or cause disease? Why are pregnant women told to avoid excessive caffeine consumption if it’s a wonder drug? And, if it’s a drug, is it addictive? We discuss its purported links to miscarriages, birth defects, fertility, cardiac risk, blood pressure, cancer, migraine, and Parkinson’s disease. Plus: why complications are not the same as medical error, and the really bad study

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037 - Birth Control and Instant Chemistry

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/02/08

Chris’ goodwill to help out a young couple on Valentine’s Day backfires, which leads him and Jonathan to talk about contraception. What is the most effective form of birth control, and how come there’s no pill… for men? One thing’s for certain: McGill students are going to have a lot of unplanned babies if the vox pop is any indication! Also: can science really tell you how compatible you and your lover are?; Britt Marie Hermes, ex-naturopath and prominent skeptic, needs your help; and we tear into

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036 - Diets and Californian Cell Phones

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/01/04

Dr. Yoni Freedhoff guest stars to discuss our changing food environment. He talks dieting, The Biggest Loser, food frequency questionnaires, and the Cornell Food Lab fiasco. He also valiantly defends his children against the Don Drapers of the world. Also on the show: California issues guidelines for people worried about cell phones and how these guidelines were released is a really wacky story involving “FREEEEDOM!”; electricity to fight cancer; and Chris’ The More You Know wholesome message

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Bill Nye's Pot Episode Is an Irresponsible Mess

The Body of Evidence ·

2018/01/01

With great science comes great responsibility, a proposition that Bill Nye and his writing team continue to ignore in the season 2 premiere of Bill Nye Saves the World which focuses on marijuana. The word (and sometimes the substance) cannabis is seemingly on everyone's tongue these days, which makes accurate reporting about it imperative. Within a few minutes of the episode starting, the following came out of Bill Nye's mouth: "[CBD, one of the two main chemicals in cannabis] may also be useful for

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Special - End-of-Year 2017

The Body of Evidence ·

2017/12/28

Our second end-of-year special is chock full of bloopers. Plus, the worst bits of medical news this year; favourite jingles; and science communication heroes. Happy holidays! Additional music by Kevin MacLeod (www.incompetech.com) Original music by Seth Donnelly To contribute to The Body of Evidence, go to our Patreon page at: http://www.patreon.com/thebodyofevidence/.

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035 - Chemotherapy and Stents (and Steven Novella!)

The Body of Evidence ·

2017/12/07

A Christmas-themed delivery and Stanley-Kubrick-directed opening skit lead Chris and Jonathan to discuss the worth of chemotherapy. Do doctors themselves refuse chemo, and is chemotherapy only effective in 2% of cases? You may be surprised to find out the origin of the latter myth in the Worst Paper Ever (possibly). Also, Jonathan makes Chris cry; will doctors stop stenting stable angina; and Jonathan’s interview with Dr. Steven Novella on the importance of the narrative when debunking false beliefs

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Science Borealis Covers The Body of Evidence

The Body of Evidence ·

2017/12/06

"The winner of our 'Canada's Favourite Blog for 2017' contest was Body of Evidence, run by scientists keen on cutting through the prolific medical misinformation found on the Internet. Take a quick look at their site and you'll find many ways to administer your regular dose of medical news-blog post, podcast, or video. Doctor Chris Labos and biological scientist Jonathan Jarry manage this powerhouse site on top of their regular jobs. By day, Chris is a cardiologist and Jonathan is a science

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54:39

Special: The Art of Science

The Body of Evidence ·

2017/11/23

A conversation with Trevor Butterworth of Sense About Science USA and Adam Oliver Brown of the University of Ottawa on art, science, education, and communication. Topics covered include the use of design in statistics; the silos of academia; false balance in science journalism and recent improvements; how science experts end up in the media; students sneaking into scicomm workshops; apartment design in NYC; the original PhD; Jon Snow, Florence Nightingale and Da Vinci walk into a bar;

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