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The Sword and Scale true-crime podcast is an immersive audio experience covering the dark side of humanity and human nature. Our stories delve into the worst of the worst and include murder, rape, dismemberment and cannibalism. No crime is too brutal and no victim is too pure. The worst monsters are real.

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2020/10/25

This is the story of how Shasta Groene was abducted by pedophile Joseph Duncan in Idaho and held captive for 7 weeks along with her brother Dylan. Both were emotionally, physically, and sexually tortured before Shasta was discovered in a Denny’s restaurant. How was a tiny, 8 year old girl able to make it back alive after enduring torture and witnessing gruesome murders? SOURCES Survivor's Perspective - Shasta McClain (Shasta Groene) For Waitress Who Found Shasta, Closure to Episode of

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Sword and Scale Episode 172

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2020/10/17

Child abuse can take many forms and most of the time isn’t obvious. In rare cases it is near impossible to detect. In the special case of Olivia Gant and her mother, Kelly Turner, the signs were there but Kelly was adept at hiding them or convincing those that suspected something that it wasn’t the case. SOURCES Mother Accused Of Murdering Make-A-Wish Kid, Olivia Gant Mom Arrested For Murder Police, Firefighters Grant Ill Girl's Wish Mother Of Girl Who Died After Long Illness

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2020/10/10

On August 2nd, 2016, 30-year-old speech pathologist Karina Vetrano left her home to go for a late-afternoon jog through Spring Creek Park in Howard Beach, Queens. When she didn’t return, a lengthy police investigation and two murder trials would follow, revealing a strange motive rooted in misdirected anger and pure rage. SOURCES Chanel Lewis Interrogation Chanel Lewis Interrogation Part 2 “The Paradox” Short Film Karina Vetrano Blog Homepage Karina Vetrano Poem -

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Sword and Scale Episode 171

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2020/10/02

We all know by now that there are good cops, and there are very bad cops. On December 29th, 2009, Kevin Gregson and Eric Czapnik showed the world exactly which roles they filled. Both men wanted so desperately to become members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, but the ultimate end to each of their careers was distinctly different. One man is now celebrated by the entire country of Canada, while the other is despised. SOURCES Kevin Gregson Interrogation Canada’s Royal Canadian

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2020/09/20

Fatherhood is no easy feat. Most people, especially fathers, would tend to agree. While it is tough, those most affected when a father falls short are the children, especially the sons, who look to their fathers for acceptance, love, and a role model. Two men, separated by the entire country, with different backgrounds find themselves in the same situation… prison. A deadly house fire and a frightful church shooting lead Wilber Romero and Dale Holloway down the same path but it all stems

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Kirk Menard - Raw Interview

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2020/09/20

We speak to Kirk Menard, a licensed private investigator from Louisiana that has investigated the Jennings 8case (from Episode 24)in depth and uncensored.

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Prank Call from Episode 21 - Raw Audio

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2020/09/19

To lighten the mood after one of the most horrific and terrifying podcasts ever produced (Episode 20), we decided to call our longtime friend Jesus Rodriguez to discuss eating his kids. because why not?

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Mayra Martinez - Raw Interview

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2020/09/19

Mayra Martinez, the web sleuth that became intimately involved with the Morgan Ingram case from Episodes 11 & 12, made us aware of the Eric Preimesberger case due to her son Syed Lamont's close call with Timothy Morgan. This is the full extended interview about her thoughts and experiences with this case.

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Kay Wilson - Raw Interview

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2020/09/19

Eric Preimesberger's mother Kay Wilson, from Episode 18, spoke to us at length about her late son's volatile marriage withKristiPreimesberger. This is the full raw interview with Kay, in which she details all the issues leading up to Eric's murder.

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Syed Lamont - Raw Interview

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2020/09/18

Syed Lamont was almost an accessory to a murder. He came very close to suffering the same fate that James Wyrek did. In this unedited raw interview that was part of Episode 18, he details the circumstances that led up to this bizarre and terrifying outcome.

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James Wyrick - Raw Interview

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2020/09/18

We spoke to James Wyrick at length about his good friend Timothy Morgan from Episode 18. In this interview he details how he met Morgan and how he would would later be called to testify about how he helpedhimmove a freezer, that smelled of decay, to a wooded area near Frenchman's Reservoir.

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Sword and Scale Episode 170

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2020/09/13

The world had a conniption when news headlines announced “Kevin Bacon-Murdered!” just before the new year. As more details came out, it was clear that the victim of this murder was not the actor known for the “Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon” game. The man who was murdered was a hairdresser from Swartz Creek, Michigan, and an LGBTQ+ advocate. What happened to Kevin was gruesome and shocking that it got the attention of YouTuber Jeffree Star, catapulting the story to mainstream

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2020/09/06

The case of missing University of Utah student Mackenzie Lueck captured the attention of the entire nation back in July of 2019. How could such a seemingly innocent and diligent student have just vanished into thin air? After discovering that Mackenzie got into an unknown vehicle after being dropped off at a park in North Salt Lake in the early morning hours, the investigation took a strange turn. SOURCES Lyft Driver Interview Mystery Surrounding Missing College Student Family of Missing Utah

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Sword and Scale Episode 169

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2020/08/28

We take a break from the standard Sword and Scale format to chat about the current state of law enforcement with ex-police officer and judge Charles Adams from The Truth with Charles Adams on KPRC 950 AM and iHeartRadio. SOURCES Reid Technique Explained Interrogations: The Reid Technique vs. PEACE Method MUSIC Knock it Off - Neon Beach Playmaker - Air Kid Sway - Nu Alkemi$t Wolfs Milk - Isaac Joel Triangles - Empyreal Glow The Chapel Of Love - Tide Electric Beach Trance - Mikey

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2020/08/26

A woman from the past offers to foster Tessa Daniel’s two little girls while she struggles with a methamphetamine addiction. But just because someone is familiar does not mean they should be trusted. By the time Tessa discovers this, it’s already too late. SOURCES Article: Short Life and Tragic Death Article: Another Dead Child, Another Grim Look Video: Day 4 – Mary Evans Battle Video: Day 2 – Tessa Daniel Part 1 Video: Day 4 – Peggy Banks Part 1 Video: Day 2

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2020/08/15

When you order a hamburger or steak at your local eatery not a lot of concern is given to where it comes from. For the Diemel brothers, however, cattle was their life and they knew everything about it. They were on the verge of having their most profitable year yet as a small but growing cattle company. That is until they had trouble with one business deal that could potentially ruin them. They thought it would be as simple as going to see their partner, Garland Nelson, and picking up the check he

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Sword and Scale Episode 168

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2020/08/07

We often think of true-crime from the perspective of law enforcement trying valiantly to pursue the perpetrator and make them face the justice system. Have you ever considered what it would be like if you were in the hot seat? What if you were the suspect in an awful crime? What if there never really was a crime committed in the first place? William Hurt and his family were dragged through the justice system back in 2012 as part of a wild goose chase. Their journey still hasn’t

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2020/08/02

Jose Bonilla went to the 9th annual ZombiCon for the same reason everyone did… to have fun while surrounded by zombies. But when you mix 20,000 plus people in costume in the small downtown river district of Fort Myers, Florida with excessive amounts of alcohol and way less security than needed you get a recipe for disaster. And you get a two-year investigation into what happened. SOURCES Atomic Bomb dropped on Nagasaki - 1945 Duck And Cover (1951) Bert The Turtle Night of the Living

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Sword and Scale Episode 167

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2020/07/26

The lives of Kevin and Marina Krim were forever changed on October 25th, 2012. All of New York City was suddenly rethinking their caregivers. “Is the person taking care of mom, dad, the dog, or the baby actually safe? What are the chances we could unknowingly hire a lunatic?” It could happen to anyone. The Krim family was unlucky. SOURCES Lulu and Nessie Reciting a Poem Prosecutor Opening Statements Nanny Allegedly Stabs, Kills Two Murderous Nanny Wanted to See Mom’s

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2020/07/18

You lock the doors to your home when you leave because you don’t want anyone in your house while you’re gone. You don’t want some stranger going through all your personal and cherished memories. You don’t want to get burgled. Yet, you never expect to return home to find someone moved in, sleeping in your bed, sitting on your chairs naked, or perhaps… prepping for surgery. Ezequiel Zayas moved into James and Brittany Campbell’s home while they were away and

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