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A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica

Claire Mazur & Erica Cerulo

Hosts Claire Mazur and Erica Cerulo, who you might know as the co-founders of the website Of a Kind (RIP!) or the co-authors of the book Work Wife, are all about discovery and enthusiasm. We"ve heard this weekly podcast described as a "unique mix of urgent discussions of non-urgent things and thoughtful discussions of important, and often otherwise ignored, things," and we"re very much on board with that take.

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00:48:03

Curious Home Items and That New New York Vibe

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/08/02

Introducing the chair and half! And reintroducing the greatest city in the world, New York! We’ve brought our enthusiasm, friends, and we’re hoping you’ll join us. Claire’s dream chair and a half is from Maker & Son. Erica’s dream stool coat rack is by Guillen Ferran for Casa Constante (two others worth knowin’ about from Umbra and Room & Board, too). SinkPositive!!! Ann Friedman’s newsletter about NYC energy. NYC’s Thai restaurant renaissance! Nuaa Table, Fish Cheeks,

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00:43:59

Online Shopping Tricks ‘n Tips...and Ending Vacation...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/07/26

How do we wrap up vacation? How do we shop for clothes on the internet? Well! The Atlantic also says you should come home from vacation a day early in this piece about 8 rules for a happy vacation. Hit us with your online shopping hacks at @athingortwohq, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and 833-632-5463. And get more of ours from Secret Menu. Find out where to get your COVID-19 vaccine near you at vaccines.gov. Learn about your body with Base and take 20% off of your first month of

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01:08:25

The Idea of You Casting Drama and a Friendship Deep-Dive

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/07/19

If you’ve ever had questions about our (19 years of!) friendship, wade on into this episode, which was sparked by the heartwarmingly genius Summer of Friendship series from Call Your Girlfriend. And if you’ve ever wondered about our thoughts on making The Idea of You book into a movie...well, that too! More on The Idea of You’s rabid following ℅ Michelle Ruiz for Vogue. People, watch Friends with Kids! Somehow related: It was Patrick Dempsey who was (at one point) married to the makeup

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00:40:02

Solving Those Sleep, Energy, & Sex-Drive Mysteries...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/07/15

How many questions do we have for Lola Priego, the founder of the innovative at-home lab-testing company Base? So many that we partnered with the company to bring you all this ep and to get a better understanding of how the medical sector is evolving, the common findings the Base team is seeing in tests, and what factors that might be contributing to bleh energy, sex drive, and sleep—you know, those weirdly hard-to-solve health gripes. Also, re: ZZZs: Let’s kick things off with a talk about pajama

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00:51:41

Thingies! And Famous Birthdays!

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/07/12

One thing we’re newly obsessed with: the wide, weird world of FamousBirthdays.com. Nine finds we’re oldly obsessed with and very ready to discuss: Welcome to the latest installment of Thingies, our unstoppable, un-top-able category faves. Do you know FamousBirthdays.com? Do you know Courier magazine?! Well, there’s a great story about the former in the latter. Today’s Thingies!!! New Skin Liquid Bandage, Chef’s Choice Diamond Hone Knife Sharpener, Temp Tee Whipped Cream Cheese, D.S. &

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00:54:38

Baby Hummingbirds and Lauren Chan on Fashion Right...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/06/28

Are you ready to be charmed? Great, because today we’re discussing baby hummingbirds and hanging with Lauren Chan, who’s a size-inclusive fashion advocate, a model, and the founder-slash-CEO of Henning, which makes luxury, oh-so-cool womenswear in sizes 12 to 24. Soon, she’ll be a TikTok star, too—we have no doubt. Related to Erica’s How to Do Nothing-esque baby hummingbird *experience*: this glorious Jamie Beck ridiculousness, the Minnesota State Fair’s CHS Miracle of Birth Center, this

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00:45:06

Demystifying CBD with Caliper Co-Founder Jeremy...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/06/24

To anyone who’s asked “Um, can y’all dig deeper into CBD?” and/or “Does that stuff actually work?” we bring you an episode full of (extremely interesting!) nitty-grittiness on cannabinoids. We’ve partnered with the impressive team over at Caliper for this conversation with our old pal Jeremy Goldstein to talk science, credibility, regulation, and, yes, hype. If this has you itching to try Caliper, use the code ATHINGORTWO for 20% off your first order. More on drug-sniffing K-9

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00:54:41

Flea and Wedding Registries (Slash Stuff We Want in...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/06/21

What would we register for if we were getting married sometime soon? What would we buy if we just really wanted a tablecloth or new drinking glasses? Oh, we have thoughts. And, speaking of wish lists, how exactly do we get our hands on Flea’s Bees honey from the Red Hot Chili Peppers bassist? For more on Flea (because who doesn’t want more on Flea?): Dave Grohl’s doc What Drives Us, this GQ article about his relationship with the streetwear designer Melody Ehsani, his memoir Acid for the

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00:59:14

Public Affluence and Atoosa Rubenstein Talking...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/06/14

Longtime hero and first-time guest Atoosa Rubenstein is our plus-one today, and, whoa, is she delivering SO MUCH wisdom—you know, exactly the sort of stuff she was known for as the editor of CosmoGIRL! And Seventeen, but now built for adults. (Related: You’ve gotta sign up for her newsletter Atoosa Unedited.) Before we get into it, though, we need to talk about a term that’s as useful as it is aspirational: public affluence. Public affluence further reading: “Every Child on Their Own

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00:47:39

A Snack Attack and Claire’s New Beauty Go-Tos

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/06/07

It’s testing central ‘round these parts. First, we dig into snacks (and fall hard for a fancy GF pop-tart comp), and then Claire shares the beauty products that have won her over recently. Obviously both sunless tanner and deep conditioner make a showing. What are we munching? Well! Wild Fruits Jam Tarts, 12tides Puffed Kelp Chips, and Pipcorn Jalapeño Cheddar Crunchies, since you asked. Claire’s latest hair favorites: Bread Beauty Supply Hair Mask Deep Conditioner, Hairstory New Wash,

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00:40:48

Opening the Windows and Making Time for Creativity

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/05/24

Feel that cross-breeze? Hard for us to tell if it’s fresh air or creative energy, to be honest. But much more on both ahead... The opening the windows tweet that really spoke to us both. The fan Claire recently, aspirationally acquired: this Zonix one in white. You know Secret Menu? Because you should. For some context around our creativity check-in, dive into our perfectionism ep (and maybe Big Magic?). This NYT piece on future block! Mary H.K. Choi inspired Erica’s

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00:41:39

Eating Less Meat and Drinking Less Booze

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/05/17

If you’ve been thinking more about your meat and/or alcohol consumption—or would like to—pull up a chair and dig in. And, as always, feel free to drop us voicemail at 833-632-5463. Hungry for your thoughts. Our less-meat news items: Epicurious on not publishing any (new) recipes with beef, Eleven Madison Park’s return with a vegan menu, and Taco Bell’s Cravetarian Taco. One interesting beef source: Butter Meat Co. Us-approved meat alts, should you want ‘em: Impossible (burgers with

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00:52:36

Checking in With Amanda Hesser and Miffy, Hello...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/05/10

Just a podcast ep featuring two old pals: Miffy, chic cartoon rabbit, and Amanda Hesser, icon, inspiration, and co-founder of Food52, the site you’ve (we’ve) visited just a few thousand times. First, some Miffy merch: this light that Erica and Cam own, these napkins, this corduroy stuffed animal, and this Converse collab. A 2008 Daily Telegraph profile of Dick Bruna, the creator of Miffy. The rumored Taylor Swift and Katy Perry collaboration. Our Amanda Hesser fandom runs

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00:47:50

Things We Want to Leave Behind and How to Start a...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/05/03

Less running around to meetings, more running routines! If this ep had a mantra, that would be it. Other running and running-adjacent content: the C25K app, our podcast ep with Coach Bennett, Edith Zimmerman’s Drawing Links newsletter, and Nikki Ogunnaike and Aminatou Sow on IG. Some “things we’re over” further reading: A BBC article on air travel + the environment, a tweet about overscheduled days, and a NYT article about disability and virtual accommodations. We want/need your

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00:58:15

Fighting Perfectionism and Remembering People’s Names

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/04/26

Has perfectionism jumped the shark? And how do we remember names when we start meeting new people again?! Clearly, we have a lot of questions (and some answers). If you like this, you’ll probably really like Secret Menu. A couple books that made us ponder perfectionism: Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert, Yolk by Mary H.K. Choi, and Drop the Ball by Tiffany Dufu. Related convos: our ambition ep, this episode of Jam Session, and the Wit & Delight posts here and here. Come and get

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01:00:15

Deep-Diving Into Post-Pandemic Dressing and a...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/04/19

When we can all go out in the world again, will we be getting dressed up? And what will “dressed up” even mean?! Oh, do we have questions—and some answers—about re-entry fashion...and also about kombucha titan GT Dave. A hot topic, apparently: GT Dave of GT’s Kombucha. A few shoe lines that have us ready to set aside our Birkenstocks for a minute: Alepel, Kkerelé, and Emme Parsons. If you’re ready to dabble in hard pants after some time away, Claire loves these AYR jeans. The

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00:43:40

Talking Black Buck with Mateo Askaripour & a Gift for...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/04/12

We’ve got Mateo Askaripour, author of the extremely buzzy novel Black Buck, with us today—and, hey, we also showed up with our best going-away gift ideas for a stellar boss who perhaps deserves a travel mug thingy emblazoned with his catchphrase. Gifting Q: Boss going-away gift. Best boss I ever had. Mentor. Mid-fifties. Male. Already gave booze. Our thoughts: Leatherology modern round coaster set, custom Yeti bottle, knives from Opinel or Laguiole, Souda business card holder, or flowers

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00:44:31

After Dark, Useful Tools, Embarrassing Recipes, and...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/04/05

You know what’s a grab bag? An episode on nineties screensavers, long breakfasts, box cutters, and recipes we’re embarrassed to share. Join us! Just a short film of 281 After Dark modules and a very timely tweet. The tools we wear by: box cutters, measuring tapes (see also: this ep of Gee Thanks, Just Bought It), kitchen scales (the Joseph Joseph TriScale one specifically), dough scrapers, kitchen spiders, and fish spatulas. Claire’s (embarrassing) buffalo chicken chowder, her

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00:44:38

Our Pre Post-Pandemic Social Anxiety and Erica’s New...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/03/29

Not to get ahead of ourselves, but, well, we’re totally getting ahead of ourselves: Is anyone else a little clenchy about having social lives again...sometime soon? Another topic of discussion: the beauty products Erica has on rotation—top threes instead of HGs!—from sunscreens to deep conditioners. “Late-Stage Pandemic Is Messing With Your Brain”—or ours, at least. The energy we’re seeking: John Jannuzzi’s dance compilation videos. Sunscreens: Coola Sun Silk Drops, EleVen by Venus

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00:52:09

Weird Coffee Habits & Writing Juicy, Inclusive...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2021/03/22

Perhaps you’ve noticed that we won’t shut up about romance novels? Well, this week we’re chatting it up with Talia Hibbert, one of our favorite writers of the genre, about telling diverse stories, shaping conversations about consent, and writing good sex. But first: Does Erica have too many coffee devices? You be the judge. The coffeemakers in Erica’s rotation: Bodum French press, Nespresso Pixie (with Woken pods—but Nespresso ones are recyclable in NYC now. See also from the NYT on recycling

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