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The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.

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35:50

The Nazi-Busting Woman Erased by History

The Gist ·

2017/11/17

Elizebeth Smith got her start poring over Shakespearean verse for secret messages that were not there. But she soon used those skills to break codes used by America’s enemies in both world wars. The FBI took credit for her decryptions of Nazi messages, and her husband’s work received much greater attention from the wars’ historians. Jason Fagone changes that with his latest book, The Woman Who Smashed Codes, and joins Mike to talk about it. In the Spiel, Mike surveys podcasting comedians’

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26:06

People Power Beats the Courts

The Gist ·

2017/11/16

How can savvy activism topple decades of legal precedent? The ACLU’s David Cole tells us about three issues in which like-minded citizens advanced their agenda: marriage equality, gun ownership, and checking George W. Bush’s war on terror. Cole’s book is Engines of Liberty: The Power of Citizen Activists to Make Constitutional Law. In the Spiel, Mike considers Brett Talley, President Trump’s odd pick for federal district judge. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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39:06

Putting the Con in Economics

The Gist ·

2017/11/15

President Trump’s top economics adviser is Kevin Hassett, a guy who has made some very bad calls—most notably, his assertion that the Bush tax cuts would make the U.S. economy recession-proof. New Yorker writer Adam Davidson takes us to economics school and parses some of Hassett’s years old gobbledygook. In the Spiel, holding Bill Clinton’s accusers to today’s standards. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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27:45

Prisons of Profit

The Gist ·

2017/11/14

As America’s prison population surged in the ’80s and ’90s, private prisons were billed as the solution. They were supposed to bring innovations to incarceration and save tax dollars. But as criminal justice expert Lauren-Brooke Eisen tells us, private prisons are no more cost-effective, and the corporations behind them operate in secrecy. Eisen’s book is Inside Private Prisons. In the Spiel, Mike skewers the Republican tax plan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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31:36

The Family Man

The Gist ·

2017/11/11

Loudon Wainwright III has been plumbing his personal relationships and dysfunctions for decades in his music. His latest book continues on that theme as he examines the influence of his father. The book is Liner Notes: On Parents & Children, Exes & Excess, Death & Decay, & a Few of My Other Favorite Things. In the Spiel, Mike is not yet done talking about Roy Moore and Louis C.K. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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27:58

Why Bush 41 Was the Anti-Trump

The Gist ·

2017/11/09

As the Soviet Union crumbled, George H.W. Bush’s strategy was simple: say nothing. Historian Jeffrey Engel tells us about Bush’s plain oratory and his relationship with the USSR’s last leader, Mikhail Gorbachev. Engel says Bush Sr. and Trump scarcely look like they’re from the same party—which, of course, they aren’t. His book is When the World Seemed New. In the Spiel, reacting to the allegations against Roy Moore and Louis C.K. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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28:11

About Last Night

The Gist ·

2017/11/09

Democrats are feeling triumphant after Tuesday’s state and local elections. But it’s not a referendum on the president until his name is on the ballot, so E.J. Dionne and Thomas Mann are here to explain remains unique about this moment in American history. Dionne, Mann, and Norman Ornstein are the authors of the book One Nation After Trump: A Guide for the Perplexed, the Disillusioned, the Desperate, and the Not-Yet Deported. In the Spiel, hating on the latest iOS update. Learn more about your ad

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28:15

The Paradox of Black Patriotism

The Gist ·

2017/11/08

Theodore Johnson caught our attention for his tweets about how the White House reacts to protest from black Americans. He brings an interesting perspective as a black man in the U.S. with two decades of military service under his belt—identities, he writes, that stand “toe to toe.” Johnson is a fellow at New America and a former speechwriter for the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In the Spiel, what Harvey Weinstein’s network of spies tells us about the power of legacy media. Learn more

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33:40

Lynn Novick on Making The Vietnam War

The Gist ·

2017/11/07

How do you attempt to document an event as complex and inexplicable as the Vietnam War? Filmmaker Lynn Novick says it helped to prioritize Vietnamese voices as well as people with a flair for speaking. “There’s a poetry in just how people express themselves that we look for,” said Novick. She and Ken Burns co-directed The Vietnam War, airing now on PBS. In the Spiel, Mike tsk-tsks Donna Brazile’s tell-all. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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28:38

Free to Be You and #MeToo

The Gist ·

2017/11/04

The #MeToo movement is flushing out clear-cut cases of sexual harassment and assault, but is it helping us judge cases that are far murkier? Erin Gloria Ryan, senior editor for the Daily Beast, wonders whether people will separate into two camps: those who think accusers should be listened to, regardless of consequences, and those who think the accused should be punished, regardless of evidence. In the Spiel, is this really the lowest point in U.S. history? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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26:53

Get Inside the Brain of Michael Rapaport

The Gist ·

2017/11/02

The tax plan is out, and New Yorker writer Adam Davidson joins us to play One Question, One Question Only: Is this tax reform? And the voluble Michael Rapaport unleashes his opinions about various “stickmen” (read: athletic Casanovas) and why he’s embarrassed to be a Knicks fan. Rapaport’s new book is This Book Has Balls: Sports Rants from the MVP of Talking Trash, and he hosts the podcast I Am Rapaport. And in the Spiel, what went wrong in protecting Americans from armies of Russian

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30:38

Talk Like a Pirate (Party) Day

The Gist ·

2017/11/02

Birgitta Jónsdóttir has an unusual background for a politician: she’s a poet and a free speech activist. Since 2013, she’s been a member of the Icelandic parliament representing the anti-establishment Pirate Party. Jónsdóttir talks to Mike about what it’s like to work within a fledgling political party and why she’s disappointed with what Wikileaks has become. In the Spiel, how not to respond to a terrorist attack. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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26:36

Putting Dr. Seuss on the Couch

The Gist ·

2017/11/01

Was Dr. Seuss racist? Or did his books just not age well? And what is the appropriate response to a canonical work that seems to be littered with racially charged depictions? Philip Nel takes on all these questions and poses some more of his own in his latest book, Was the Cat in the Hat Black? In the Spiel, what if the office of the presidency were leveraged for the sake of constant distraction? We are finding out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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26:04

Scared to Death?

The Gist ·

2017/10/30

Can you be scared to death? Can your hair go white from fear? This sounds like a job for “Is That Bullshit?” with Maria Konnikova, our favorite BS detector. Konnikova writes for the New Yorker and is the author of The Confidence Game. In the Spiel, the never-ending baseball game and a bothersome T-Mobile ad. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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31:43

Sen. Cory Booker Has a Message for Pot Smokers

The Gist ·

2017/10/27

Democratic New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker has rolled out the kind of marijuana legalization bill progressives love to fawn over and libertarians love to ridicule. The plan would pressure states to legalize marijuana by withholding federal money. Booker cedes that the bill’s passage doesn’t seem imminent, but he likens marijuana legalization to gay marriage, another proposal that saw a rapid surge in popular support: “I’m believing in—I’m claiming a sea change coming in the future.” In the Spiel, what

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28:29

Fellas We Frolicked With

The Gist ·

2017/10/26

Talking about sex makes some people squirm. For everyone else there’s Guys We Fucked, a podcast hosted by Corinne Fisher and Krystyna Hutchinson that started off as a series of interviews with their old partners. Now it’s more of a coffee klatsch between two raunchy feminists.Their new book is F*cked: Being Sexually Explorative and Self-Confident in a World That’s Screwed. And in the Spiel, Bannon, Bulgarian mutiny, and beluga whales. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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26:50

Jacob Weisberg on the Steele Dossier

The Gist ·

2017/10/25

Jacob Weisberg says the Clinton campaign’s links to the Steele dossier matters, but not as much as the veracity of the oppo research itself. Weisberg is host of Trumpcast and editor in chief of the Slate Group. In the Spiel, the death of Fats Domino. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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29:48

Jeff Bezos Isn’t King

The Gist ·

2017/10/24

Shareholder returns aren’t the only barometer of CEO success anymore, or else Jeff Bezos would be on top. In recent years, sustainability and diversity have gained importance—and in those areas, European CEOs are lapping their American competitors. Adi Ignatius, editor in chief of the Harvard Business Review, joins us to discuss the metrics for CEO success and how businesses struggle to diversify. The Harvard Business Review just published its rankings of the best-performing CEOs in the world of

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33:30

A Show for Mere Mortals

The Gist ·

2017/10/24

Kathleen Horan writes obituaries for the living. Her Audible original series, Mortal City, is an anthology of lesser-known New York characters: Douglas the sanitation worker, Serge the barman, Rocky the ambulance commandant. “I just kept feeling like there were people that I was missing,” says Horan. She prefers to talk to people who live and work on the city’s margins: “They just can’t help but show you higher up on the thigh of their story.” In the Spiel, the latest page in the very long scrapbook

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35:57

Marc Maron and Brendan McDonald

The Gist ·

2017/10/20

Marc Maron says he “didn’t know anything about anything” when he began working in radio. But producer Brendan McDonald can tell you the moment he knew Maron could be a radio star. It was during a morning show on the ill-fated Air America network, and then-host Maron was ranting about overcooked lentils. “The phones lit up,” said McDonald. The two went on to create WTF With Marc Maron, the podcast now known for intense interviews with comedians, many of whom Maron quarreled with in the past. Maron’s

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