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Speaking of Cults

A podcast about cults, coercive control and recovery. Formerly called the Sensibly Speaking podcast, in this weekly show host Chris Shelton interviews cult survivors, psychologists and other professionals and specialists about the topics of cult recruitment, retention and recovery. This also includes non-religious cults and extreme political movements including the more divisive elements of MAGA and left-wing culture war issues. There is nothing off-limits but we always try to be respectful of the

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01:07:28

Scott Rudin & David Miscavige: Two Peas in a Pod

Speaking of Cults ·

2021/04/24

This week, I discuss the just-breaking story of Hollywood producer Scott Rudin, who according to reports has serious anger management issues and has allegedly abused assistants and co-workers for decades. The patterns of behavior and even specific actions and words Rudin reportedly used are so amazingly similar to what we know about David Miscavige and Sea Org executives at every level, I simply had to dedicate a podcast to discussing the similarities as I experienced them as a Sea Org member

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01:17:03

Extremism, Atheism and Other Controversies with Seth...

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2021/04/17

This week I welcome back Seth Andrews, host of The Thinking Atheist channel and podcast and an all-around great guy. In this wide-ranging discussion, we take up issues with religion but spend a lot more time describing our issues with the atheist side of the coin and problems we want to see rectified in how atheists approach believers. There’s a lot more too including some Scientology references. I hope you enjoy all of it. Seth’s YouTube channel The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #293:

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The Power of Showing a Little Gratitude

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2021/04/10

This week I talk from a psychological perspective on the surprising power of gratitude and how this helps us maintain perspective. I share some very personal experiences of this in my own life as well. Enjoy! Harvard Medical School article Dr. Summer Allen article The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #292: The Power of Showing a Little Gratitude appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

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01:28:05

How to Understand Everything with Tom Beakbane

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2021/04/03

This week I welcome neuroscientist Tom Beakbane to the show to discuss his book “How to Understand Everything” and the subject of consilience, a word Tom has used as a foundational idea for a multi-faceted approach to looking at our relationships, our biology and even consciousness itself. If nothing else, we certainly had an interesting conversation. Enjoy! The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #291: How to Understand Everything with Tom Beakbane appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

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01:41:24

Indoctrination and Radicalization in Cults

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2021/03/27

This week I am offering something a little different: an interview I did for Paganicon 2021 on the subject of cult indoctrination and radicalization and how this might also apply in groups and relationships. We had a great time, even if I was a little chatty, and I hope you enjoy it. My earlier interview with Penny The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #290: Indoctrination and Radicalization in Cults appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

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Sensibly Speaking Podcast #289: Scientology, Cult...

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2021/03/20

This week, there was a bit of a kerfuffle in Clearwater over the Scientology and the Aftermath reunion and Cult City Tours which happened on Hubbard’s Birthday on March 13th. In this podcast, I go over the city council meeting that happened two days ago and my opinions and commentary on the entire matter as it relates to Clearwater and Scientology. Enjoy! Clearwater City Council Meeting video The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #289: Scientology, Cult City Tours and Protests appeared first

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58:51

Let’s Talk About Mental Health, Part 2

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2021/03/13

About two years ago, Melissa and I did a podcast about mental health, suicide and treatment, talking intimately about our own experiences as well as what we have learned. This week we tackle this subject again, especially some of the issues we’ve encountered or learned about in getting help and some ideas we had about how we can help one another despite these issues. Enjoy! #MentalHealth #Scientology The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #288: Let’s Talk About Mental Health, Part 2 appeared first on

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57:39

Scientology and Double Binds

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2021/03/06

This week I am joined by my wonderful wife, Melissa, to discuss the psychological principle of double binds and how these are control mechanisms used to deceive, manipulate and control people in not just cults like Scientology but also in domestic partnerships. We talk about what these are, where the ideas come from and I give a lot of examples from my own Scientology experience. I hope that this is truly an educational video for people about a topic that is not discussed nearly enough

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43:35

Recovering from Scientology - Another Layer

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2021/02/27

This week I talk somewhat intimately about what has been happening in my own recovery from Scientology and how my recent education has really ramped up that process in both good and not-so-good ways, and what this has taught me firsthand about cult recovery. The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #286: Recovering from Scientology – Another Layer appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

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01:02:04

”Better Left Unsaid” and the Radicalization of the Left

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2021/02/20

This week I welcome Curt Jaimungal and Desh Amila, two filmmakers who have produced Better Left Unsaid, a new documentary about the rise of Left-wing extremism in the United States and across Western nations. We discuss various points from the documentary and our mutual concern about what we see as radicalized behavior on the part of some on the extreme Left. There is a lot to unpack and learn from this and I hope you enjoy our conversation as much as I did. Better Left Unsaid is an

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01:48:35

Street Epistemology - What It Is and Isn’t ft....

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2021/02/13

This week I welcome back Anthony Magnabasco to discuss the growing conversation/inquiry method called Street Epistemology. We talk about what it is and what it isn’t and how when used properly, it can be a great tool to increase understanding and tolerance in our increasingly divided times. Enjoy! Anthony’s Social Media: https://linktr.ee/magnabosco Street Epistemology Resources: https://tinyurl.com/abm-se-resources Street Epistemology Communities:

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01:29:29

Sensibly Speaking Podcast #283: Clearwater and...

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2021/02/06

This week I welcome back Aaron Smith-Levin to give us an update on what is what with Scientology in Clearwater, including a fresh and different perspective on what life there is really like with Scientology as a neighbor and some detailed talk about the Clearwater city council and how it can and should best deal with the “Scientology problem.” Enjoy! The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #283: Clearwater and Scientology: A Fresh Perspective appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

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52:43

Talking to QAnon ft. Rachel Bernstein

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2021/01/30

This week I welcome licensed therapist and cult recovery counselor Rachel Bernstein back to the channel to discuss the unique problems and techniques of talking to people in extremist belief sets such as those of QAnon. This reckless and all-consuming conspiracy has created radicalized extremists, making this much more than “just another cult.” It’s time we all had some information about how to deal with people in this mindset and hopefully bring them back. The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #282:

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02:04:27

Ponzinomics: The Big Picture of Multilevel Marketing...

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2021/01/23

Last week we featured Alanda Carter to discuss her experiences with multilevel marketing scams (MLMs) but this week is a real tour de force as we go into the birds-eye view of what MLMs really are about, how long they have been around and how they have amassed such vast security and safety from regulation and the law. I welcome Robert Fitzpatrick, author of Ponzinomics: The Untold Story of Multilevel Marketing, which we discuss in the show. Enjoy! The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #281:

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Sensibly Speaking Podcast #280: The Dangers (and...

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2021/01/16

This week I welcome Alanda Carter, @The Recovering Hunbot for a discussion about multilevel marketing and the coercive, cult-like tactics that are employed at every level to promote, recruit, retain and financially devastate their “members.” Alanda has personal experience to share about this and has been a staunch anti-MLM crusader who has helped educate me on the subject. Enjoy! The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #280: The Dangers (and Cultism) of Multilevel Marketing appeared first on The

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01:58:17

Sensibly Speaking Podcast #279: Scientology,...

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2021/01/09

This week I welcome back Jeff Hawkins for one of the most fun and certainly interesting conversations I’ve had in a long while about Scientology, David Miscavige and the marketing and expansion of Scientology (or lack thereof). This is a wide-ranging discussion and we tie in some current events as well, which may help give some insight into why this last week was so mad. Enjoy! Jeff’s email: jeffersonhawkins1 (at) msn.com. The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #279: Scientology, Miscavige and

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Sensibly Speaking Podcast #278: The 2020 Year in...

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2021/01/02

This week we do our traditional year-end review of what happened in 2020, mainly in but also of course outside of the world of Scientology. There were some good and some bad, some ups and some downs, but certainly no shortage of things to talk about. Enjoy! The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #278: The 2020 Year in Review – In and Out of Scientology appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

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02:11:42

The Messianic Movement and Gay Conversion Therapy

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2020/12/26

This week I welcome Matan Schecter, a second-generation former Messianic Jew. As we clarify in this episode, that term is a misnomer of the highest order and Matan had to face a great deal of struggle to find his own voice and acknowledgement of his own identity. We talk about what the Messianic Movement is all about and how Matan had to undergo multiple attempts to “adjust” his gender identity because of religious belief. His story is quite something and I hope you learn as much as I did from

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01:59:22

The Problem of Authoritarianism ft. Jon Atack

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2020/12/19

This week I welcome back Jon Atack to discuss the problem of dealing with cults and how can we ever hope to solve this immense task, or should we even be trying? In this far-ranging conversation we cover answers to this and a lot more. Enjoy! The post Sensibly Speaking Podcast #276: The Problem of Authoritarianism ft. Jon Atack appeared first on The Sensibly Speaking Podcast.

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01:39:41

Scientology Lawsuits - A Legal Opinion

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2020/12/12

This week I welcome back my friend and DC lawyer Ciprian Ivanof to discuss Scientology lawsuits, both recent and old, and what lawyers for Valerie Hanie may have gotten wrong in their latest fight against the Church of Scientology. We recorded this last week and it was just yesterday that news came down that Haney’s appeal to the Supreme Court was rejected. That decision doesn’t change the opinions we offer here about what went wrong on her case and hopefully how we can make sure the same mistakes

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