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Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter

Join Kail Lowry and Becky Hayter as these two rekindle their friendship and navigate the highs, lows, and hilarious in-betweens of life in their 30s. They’ll dive into the joys and challenges of raising families, staying true to friendships, and keeping up with pop culture - all while embracing the unpredictable mix of karma and chaos that life throws at them. With Kail’s unfiltered outlook and Becky’s infectious humor, Karma & Chaos is a refreshing, real, and relatable take on modern

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01:10:54

58. baby mamas all trauma

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/11/09

Vee opens up about how she keeps putting unnecessary pressure on herself. She feels that she needs to learn to let go and not hold herself back. Then, while discussing fitness goals, Vee tries to convince Kail to learn pole dancing which leads them to talk about their favorite "toys" and Kail recalls a story where she had her "D**k on the table". Kail also describes the recent online criticism she received when she revealed she prefers to have a partner who doesn't have any kids. Please support

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01:07:25

57. Granny Panties and Thottery

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/11/02

On this episode of BMND, Kail has an embarrassing slip of the tongue while talking to a water-heater repair man. Vee's dog keeps escaping which leads to an awkward situation with a neighbor. Also, Kail and Vee talk Halloween costumes, the Kardashians and read a DM from someone who tries to remain a supportive friend while listening to her best friend's heaux tales. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! BetterHelp: Our listeners get 10% off their first month of online therapy at

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01:10:53

56. Haunted Rooms and Scary Clowns

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/10/26

On this Halloween edition of BMND, Kail and Vee talk about why cemeteries give them the creeps, what their favorite scary movie character is, and what movies freaked them out as kids. They also swap terrifying stories that they personally experienced and read creepy stories from listeners. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Purple Mattress: Go to Purple.com/mamadrama10 and use code mamadrama10. For a limited time you can get 10% off any order of $200 or more.

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00:59:34

55. GhEttO MaMi

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/10/19

Kail and Vee talk about their old social media screen names and what it was like talking to strangers online when they were teenagers. They also discuss love at first sight, a catfishing horror story, and the pros and cons of having the grandparents watch the kids. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Nuts.com: New Nuts.com customers get free shipping on your first order when you text DRAMA to 64-000.

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01:06:55

54. Social Anxiety & Awkward Playdates

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/10/12

Kail and Vee discuss parties and how the older they get the less they want people over to the house. They also talk about setting up playdates for the kids, what the proper etiquette should be for the parents and how to navigate them when you have social anxiety.

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01:14:15

53. Our Birth Stories

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/10/05

Kail and Vee share their birth stories. Each faced their own unique set of challenges and they offer advice dealing with the epidural, breast feeding and pushy nurses. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Warby Parker: Try 5 pairs of glasses at home for free at warbyparker.com/mamadrama Better Help: BABY MAMA NO DRAMA listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/MAMADRAMA.

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01:03:28

52. Thirty and Worthy

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/09/28

Vee tells Kail all about her romantic 30th birthday vacation to Jamaica. While she is nostalgically sad that her 20's are over, Vee is looking forward to the beginning of a new life chapter. Both mamas share the ways in which they plan to unapologetically embrace their authentic selves in their 30's. The girls also read two wild stories that dropped into their DMs. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! Purple Mattress: Get 10% off any order of $200 or more! Go to

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01:04:52

51. Family Trees and Red Flags with Skyelar Rasmussen

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/09/21

Kail and Vee talk to Skyelar (@skyelarrasmussen) who posted a crazy family tree story on TikTok. Kail and Vee try to follow along but quickly discover how confusing it can get. Then, Kail and Vee debate the type of red flags they look out for when dating someone new and what a friend should do if they see those red flags first. Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! GoodRx: Start saving up to 80% on your prescriptions today. Go to GoodRX.com/mamadrama Laithwaites: Get six amazing

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01:28:15

50. Fighting for Custody Across the Border with Annie...

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/09/14

Kail and Vee talk to Annie (@annigrc) who gained notoriety on TikTok by detailing her experience getting deported to Mexico, forcing her to leave her kids behind. Annie describes what it is like dealing with baby daddy drama while in another country and how ICE leaves women in a very dangerous situation once they get sent over the border. This episode is sponsored by Raycon: Raycon: Get 15% off your order when you go to buyraycon.com/mamadrama

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00:54:24

49: Cheating and Extortion

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/09/07

Kail and Vee swap cheating stories this week. As if getting cheated on isn't traumatic enough, Kail details her experience with being extorted after her partner betrayed her. Vee discusses what it was like to have her first love cheat on her in high school. Both women share what they learned and how they navigated complicated feelings toward the people who hurt them. Kail and Vee read and weigh in on podcast listeners' cheating stories. This episode is sponsored by: Best Fiends Music by: Loyalty

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01:07:07

48: Parental Relationships

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/08/31

This week Kail and Vee are reading through some listener submitted stories! Lots of relationship drama, cheating, and friend tea. Kail and Vee give their opinions on the situations and give advice on what they think can be done. Plus Kail and Vee talk about their relationship with their parents and stepparents growing up, and how it has changed. What was the lasting effect and where do they stand now? This episode was sponsored by: Purple Music by: Loyalty Freak Music

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00:35:37

47: Sex and Birth Control

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/08/24

On this week's episode Kail has a NSFW question for Vee. Cover your kid's ears for this one! Feeling satisfaction when it comes to sex can look different for everyone. Kail and Vee talk about what is typical for them. Plus, since Kail and Vee both have had IUDs, they talk about their experiences. What are their thoughts, how do they make them feel, and would they get them again? This episode was sponsored by: Nuts.com Music by: Loyalty Freak Music

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01:07:39

46: Big House Updates and Listener Questions

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/08/17

This week Kail and Vee catch up on both current and future house building. Kail is learning just how involved house building can be! Plus there are so many great listener submitted questions and requests for advice, but never enough time to answer them all. Vee has a few submissions that she wants to discuss; getting back with an ex who cheated, knowing when to tell your child about their biological parent, and telling someone their partner was unfaithful are all on the table. This episode was

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00:57:02

45: Co-Parenting vs. Parallel Parenting

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/08/10

This week Vee introduces Kail to the concept of Parallel Parenting. They talk about how it might work for Kail in the future, and try and figure out how she can start to implement it now. They also chat buying school supplies, kids and technology, and wanting all of the kids to learn a second language. This episode was sponsored by: GoodRX, Raycon, & Ana Luisa Music by: Loyalty Freak Music

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44: Movie Remakes: Nostalgia or Nah-stalgia?

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/08/03

This week Kail and Vee are coming to you live from their homes while they both recover from Covid. They talk symptoms, testing, and how they have been holding up. Plus they chat about some recent celebrity news and take a trip down memory lane and talk about some of their favorite childhood movies. This episode was sponsored by: ShipStation, American Girl, BetterHelp, & Purple Music by: Loyalty Freak Music

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01:11:02

43: New Way Of Thinking

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/07/27

Kail and Vee are back together after what feels like forever! They are ready to address some behind the scenes things and talk about their growth in conflict management. They have come a long way in the past few years, and Kail and Vee have some big hopes for the future! Plus Kail and Vee talk about how sex changes as you get older and have kids, and how sometimes it can feel like you are missing a part of who you once were. This episode was sponsored by: Upstart, Nuts.com, Gabi, & HGTV

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42: Toni Tells All

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/07/20

This one is NSFW everyone! This week Kail is joined by her friend Toni to tell some long awaited stories. Back by listener request, Toni is ready to share her embarrassing sex story with the world. Kail and Toni also discuss running into exes and shaming people for their number of past sexual partners. And Toni talks about how she met her husband and the tough road they traveled to get to where they are today. This episode was sponsored by: Ana Luisa, Best Fiends, Canva, & American Girl Music

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01:10:27

41: Life After Your 20's

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/07/13

This week Vee is joined by her friend Alessandra while Kail is away on vacation. Vee and Alessandra talk about expectations for life after your 20's and challenging the idea that you need to have it all together. They also talk mental health struggles and being in different life stages than your friends. And as we get older sometimes certain friendships don't serve us anymore, but what happens when you feel the need to take a step back? This episode was sponsored by: Nuts.com, Raycon, GoodRX,

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00:54:33

40: Raising Awareness with Leah Messer

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/07/06

On this week's episode Kail is joined by Leah Messer to talk about her daughter's rare disease and the work they are doing to raise funds for research and finding a treatment. Leah talks about searching for Ali's diagnosis, what it's like to have a child with a rare disease, and finding a community and support. And Kail and Leah talk about the Cure Rare Disease foundation and their partnership to help raise awareness for the cause. If you would like to help support the fight to finding a cure for

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01:08:16

39: Learning and Changing

Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter ·

2021/06/29

This week Kail and Vee discuss how opinions and situations can change. Relationships with people can change, opinions on products and corporations change, and even co-parenting practices can change. How we grow and evolve is important, and knowing when to set boundaries vs being open to new opportunities can make all the difference. This episode was sponsored by: Indeed, Ana Luisa, Green Chef, & GoodRX Music by: Loyalty Freak Music

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