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Not Real Art

The NOT REAL ART podcast celebrates creative culture and the artists who make it. NOT REAL ART is fresh, fun and inspiring. It contains material not suitable for pretentious art snobs. Guests include the world-class artists, designers and creatives who drive the $2T creative economy. NOT REAL ART is hosted by L.A. based art world insiders Man One and Sourdough who bring their devil-may-care attitude to discussing their mutual love — and hate — for the contemporary art world, creative culture, and

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01:17:13

Brian McCarty: Helping Children in War Zones Process...

Not Real Art ·

2020/12/08

Artists who are willing to put themselves in harm’s way are a rare bread, and those who use their work to help others are perhaps even rarer. Photographer, Brian McCarty, is one of these unique artists, and since 2011, he has been collaborating with the United Nations and other NGOs to help traumatized children in war zones. Through his project, War Toys, Brian uses the power of children’s toys, free play, and his camera to help these children process their pain. Brian has worked in places like

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01:16:33

Ric’key Pageot and Dessy Di Lauro of Parlor Social:...

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2020/12/01

This year has understandably been tough for artists. With increasing levels of stress and anxiety, it is not easy to be freely creative. Yet, art, in all its forms, is more important than ever for getting people through these difficult times. Parlor Social is at the top of their game, and Ric’key Pageot and Dessy Di Lauro, the husband-and-wife duo behind the band, join us today to share what the pandemic has been like for them. We start by talking about some of the ways they have adapted to not

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01:27:29

Robert Glenn Ketchum: Using Pictures to Save The World

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2020/11/24

Today’s guest is pioneering conservation photographer, Robert Glenn Ketchum. Robert's imagery and books have helped to define contemporary color photography while at the same time addressing critical national environmental issues, having made him one of the most successful artists and activists in American history. In today’s episode, Robert talks about the development of his career, the many adventures his work has taken him on, and the social change these projects have kickstarted. We dive

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01:14:23

Erin Yoshi: Designing a New World By Remembering Forward

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2020/11/17

Human beings have done a good job of ripping this planet apart; we have to figure out how to put it back together, and today’s guest is at the forefront of this initiative. Erin Yoshi joins us today to talk about her new project, The Land of WE. In this project, Erin is using art to drive conversations that imagine a different world, one in which we live within our means, and we rethink our exploitative systems that deplete our limited resources. Our conversation with Erin starts by tracing her

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01:30:00

Artists Mary Sherwood Brock and Joshua Wattles On...

Not Real Art ·

2020/11/10

Continuing our conversation with Indivisible 2020 participating artists, today’s guests Mary Sherwood Brock and Joshua Wattle engage in a stimulating discussion filled with passion for the country. Show curator Karen Fiorito joins the two artists, who both have roots in Washington and have been on the frontlines for their whole lives — Mary as an activist, and Joshua as a lawyer and lobbyist for the anti-war movement. We get into what indivisibility means to our guests, where they both express the

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01:10:37

Artists Anna Stump, Erin Yoshi, Ted Meyer + Kalynn...

Not Real Art ·

2020/11/03

We continue our discussion with artists participating in Indivisible 2020 today with Anna Stump, Erin Yoshi, Ted Meyer, and Kalynn Campbell. In this jam-packed show, the guests address various pertinent social and political issues. We begin by hearing what indivisibility means to everyone, where Anna and Ted, who live in a rural, red part of the country share why they have chosen not to publicly express their political views. Both Erin and Kalynn feel that while indivisibility is possible and has

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01:30:51

Linda Vallejo & Man One: Artists On Politics and...

Not Real Art ·

2020/10/27

We are continuing our discussions with artists participating in the Indivisible 2020 exhibition that Not Real Art is a media partner of, and today’s guest is none other than Linda Vallejo. Linda is a multimedia artist who consolidates a range of influences from a lifetime of travel and study to create work that explores contemporary social, cultural, and political issues. Man One joins Linda in conversation, and these two powerful artists in our community discuss their Latinx identities and the way

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01:15:35

Leroy Johnson: What It Means to Be A Political Artist...

Not Real Art ·

2020/10/20

In our increasingly polarized society and as the indivisibility we have been promised becomes further from our reality, what role do artists play in interrogating where we are now? The Indivisible 2020 exhibition explores what it means to be indivisible and divided in today’s United States, and Not Real Art is proud to be a media partner. The next few shows will be interviews with participating artists, and today’s guest, Leroy Johnson is a true political artist in every sense of the word. In this

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01:12:13

David Schwartz: Multidisciplinary Artist + Creator of...

Not Real Art ·

2020/10/13

Today we welcome multidisciplinary artist David Schwartz, AKA DVS to talk about his most recent foray into physical art, his memories of working with Prince, and the fruits of never giving up on a creative vision. David is a singer, songwriter, graphic designer, art director, and visual artist, and while he was sleeping in his car after he got out of college he also started hanging out with Prince and ended up collaborating on Daisy Chain. Since his youth days, David has been pursuing a career in

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01:22:27

Tijera Williams: Artist + 2020 NRA Grant Recipient

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2020/10/06

Today we speak to Tijera Williams, a painter whose work incorporates collage, self-portraiture, and re-workings of art iconography to form images that are rich and raw while carrying a powerful political message. Tijera is a recipient of the 2020 NRA art grant and it was a pleasure having her on the show to talk about her journey with art, the white supremacist political landscape in America, and how art can play a role in making the playing field more equal. Tijera talks about her experiences in

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Miki Yokoyama: Artist + 2020 NRA Grant Recipient

Not Real Art ·

2020/09/29

Miki Yokoyama makes ethereal illustrations on 2D and 3D surfaces that explore the profundity of life and allude to the interconnectedness of all beings. She is an NRA 2020 grant recipient and today she joins us on the show to speak about her work and the process that inspires it. For Miki, the idea of all lives beginning, intertwining, and ending in an infinite universe is deeply profound. It is a notion that is beyond words, a force that can only be expressed visually, thus becoming the subject

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Kiara Machado: Artist + 2020 Not Real Art Grant...

Not Real Art ·

2020/09/22

We know how important art can be in subverting dominant narratives and creating spaces for marginalized communities to speak from. Today's guest, Kiara Machado, is a first-generation Central American-American painter whose work explores the complexity of her identity. As a 2020 NRA Grant winner, Kiara’s work stood out to us as being sophisticated, bold, and captivating. In this episode, which celebrates Kiara, we hear about her creative process and how the anger of always having to defend her

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01:01:01

Paloma Montoya: Artist + 2020 Not Real Art Grant...

Not Real Art ·

2020/09/15

Paloma Montoya’s work draws visual inspiration from classic cartoons, using her character Lola to play with teen internet culture in a way that is dark but funny too. She was a recipient of the 2020 NRA grant and joins us on the show today to talk about what her work is all about and how she handles the different sides of being an artist. We kick things off with Lola talking about some of her recent projects, making art during the lockdown, and how she copes with the challenges of networking at

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01:02:19

Jacqueline Valenzuela: Artist + 2020 NRA Grant Recipient

Not Real Art ·

2020/09/08

Art can be an incredibly powerful tool in giving overlooked and marginalized communities spaces to speak and share their stories. Today's guest, Jacqueline Valenzuela, is a painter whose work is centered around her experience in the Chicano world of lowriding. She conveys the stories of women in the space who own their own cars, and who, despite facing tremendous odds, are rising up in the male-dominated lowriding world. As a 2020, NRA Grant Recipient, Jacqueline’s work stood out to us for being

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01:13:11

Gershon Kreimer: Photographer + 2020 Not Real Art...

Not Real Art ·

2020/09/01

We are back from our summer hiatus, excited about what the fall has in store. So much has happened this year, and our shows are going to reflect this because artists have an important role in getting messages out there. We do not want to be tone-deaf, so we will not be shying away from issues like politics and Black Lives Matter. We share what we have been working on during our break, including our artist education program and our membership offering. While Man One is out on assignment, Sourdough is

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01:03:51

The Explorers Club's Lacey Flint is Rethinking Museums

Not Real Art ·

2020/05/12

Museums are a fundamental part of the creative landscape and society as a whole. Not only do they display great examples of creativity, but they also act as portals for us to enter worlds we may never see otherwise. Our guest today, Lacey Flint, is the archivist and curator of research collections at The Explorers Club, and she is passionate about making the artifacts at the space as accessible as possible. In this episode, we learn about the interesting path Lacey took to work in curation. Being

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01:26:36

Dan Ubick Talks Music Production, Hip Hop + Positivity

Not Real Art ·

2020/05/05

With the world in its current state, it’s hard to remain positive. But to survive, we have to continue to find the beauty however we can and be inspired by the good. Our guest today, Dan Ubick, is not only an extraordinarily talented musician, but he is also a shining light in these dark times. As a producer, composer, and multi-instrumentalist, Dan grew up with music. His father was a jazz bassist, and his mom listened to the Beatles and classical music while designing jewelry. Dan’s sister

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01:37:42

How To Manage Stress with Therapist Bret Hofstein

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2020/04/28

Are you living your best quarantine life, learning new skills, reading books, and binge-watching Netflix? If like Sourdough you are a parent of young kids, you know this is not happening, particularly if you are making any effort to home school them. Regardless of your circumstances, these times are stressful for everybody, and that’s why getting licensed psychotherapist Bret Hofstein on the podcast couldn’t have come at a better time. In this episode, he talks to the Hollywood art community in

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58:18

Linc Thelen Shares His Artistic Journey

Not Real Art ·

2020/04/21

Today we’re joined by a multitalented artist, Linc Thelen, who not only paints beautiful works of art but also designs and builds contemporary high-end homes for which he has been critically acclaimed. Sourdough caught up with Linc at the 2019 Art Basel to talk about his impression of the show, exhibiting his work, and the art that has captured his attention. Having a formal education in both art and architecture, Linc is in a unique position to bring his clients something from both worlds, an

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46:48

The One Where Burt Reynolds Hires A Graffiti Artist

Not Real Art ·

2020/04/14

Today’s episode is the audio of a video shoot that Sourdough and Man One recently did at Art Share L.A. Despite knowing each other for 17 years, there are still new stories that come out every time the pair sit down to talk. Man One shares more about his Hollywood encounters, from being cast in stereotypical graffiti artist roles to having his work featured in some major motion pictures, he’s been through it all. He also discusses how rife artist exploitation is and both he and Sourdough share their

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