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excellence, actually

Steve Magness, Brad Stulberg, & Clay Skipper

"excellence, actually" is a podcast from The Growth Equation, hosted by Steve Magness, Brad Stulberg, and Clay Skipper. Drawing on their years of working and corresponding with Olympians, coaches, executives, world-class physicians, and other elite-level achievers in their coaching practice and professional careers, they give you the mental and physical tools, practices, habits, and frameworks used by the best in the world in the pursuit of excellence. Each episode will give you concrete ideas and

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22:48

BONUS: Sink or Swim, Survive or Thrive

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2022/07/15

Welcome to this special bonus issue. Steve does his best revisionist history impression, telling you the story of Paul Bear Bryant's famous Junction Boys football camp, while discussing the origins of ‘old school toughness.'This is adapted from Steve's new book Do Hard Things, which you can buy wherever books are sold!You can find the episode on:iTunes and Apple PodcastsSpotifyAndroidStitcherPlease write a review on Apple Podcasts and help new listeners discover the show!Find Brad and Steve on

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28:04

A Better Way to Think About Coaching, Parenting, and...

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2022/07/13

Brad and Steve discuss different models for working with others, ranging from permissive to authoritarian and everything in between. They explore the research on what works best for specific situations, and translate that into practical take-aways.You can find the episode on:iTunes and Apple PodcastsSpotifyAndroidStitcherPlease write a review on Apple Podcasts and help new listeners discover the show!Find Brad and Steve on Twitter: @Bstulberg and @stevemagnessCheck out our exclusive community

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21:50

Consistency Over Intensity

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2022/07/06

A discussion on consistency, intensity, and the tradeoffs between the two. The big topics discussed include how small steps compounded over time lead to big gains; why it is so tempting to over-do intensity and under-do consistency; how to determine a seven or eight out of ten and differentiate it from a nine or ten out of ten; and when it makes sense to go to the well. This one is jam packed with lots of interesting concepts and practical applications. Don't miss it!You can find the episode

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16:29

When To Grit And When To Quit

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2022/06/29

Brad and Steve discuss the different habits, strategies, and practices that can help you learn when it makes sense to keep going (and grit) versus when it makes sense shut things down (and quit) — be it in a job, in a relationship, or in some other pursuit. Topics explored include job-crafting, values-based decision making, different ways of meeting basic needs, the myth of Sisyphus, and the three things that you want every job to have but nearly every job can only offer two.You can find the

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1:14:51

Resilience, Grit, Toughness and Learning How to Do...

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2022/06/22

In this behind-the-scenes podcast, Brad interviews Steve on his new book Do Hard Things. Where did the idea for the book come from? How do you go from an idea of “fake toughness” to a fleshed-out framework for the real thing? What are the biggest myths about resilience that trip people up? How do you know when to keeping going versus quit? All of these questions and more are answered in this week’s podcast.It’s your final chance to receive pre-order bonuses for Do Hard Things! Check them out here.1

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56:06

7 Key Guidelines for Health and Longevity

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2022/06/15

Brad and Steve are joined by Kyle Klechenko, co-founder, co-owner, and head coach at Strength Ratio, to discuss his new e-book, “Building Foundations: Prioritize Your Health and Well-Being.” The trio discuss the latest science and nuance behind physical activity guidelines, nutrition, sleep, substance-use, bloodwork, pain management, and more. This is a must-listen: it lays out a nice, comprehensive framework for setting yourself up for optimal health and longevity without becoming a stress-cadet

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57:30

Re-Listen: CAL NEWPORT on The Moral Weight of...

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2022/06/08

Some people love to grind and work long days and on the weekends. Some people like never to work outside of traditional hours. Some people like to brag about how much they work. Other people like to brag about how little they work. When should we work? Is there such a thing as too much work? Too little work? Our good friend, colleague, and always critical thinker Cal Newport (author of Deep Work, Digital Minimalism, and A World Without Email) joins us for a wide-ranging discussion on work

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20:01

Truly Great Teams Versus “Super Teams”

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2022/06/01

With the NBA finals here, Brad and Steve use the championship series as a jumping off point to discuss the power of well-oiled teams, where there is both dependence and independence. They contrast this with so-called “super teams” that are made up of all-star individuals. While the duo starts out with a discussion on sports, they end with two universal principles for developing and leading great teams regardless of the arena.You can find the episode on:iTunes and Apple

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31:14

11 Concepts for Mental Health

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2022/05/25

It is mental health awareness month, and it is a topic near and dear to our hearts. Mental health and its opposite (mental illness) affects just about everyone at one point or another. On this episode, we detail eleven key concepts for mental health, all based on evidence and with concrete applications and practices.You can find the episode on:iTunes and Apple PodcastsSpotifyAndroidStitcherNotes and Resources:You are Not a Rock by Mark FreemanCheck out our exclusive community bonuses on Patreon.Get

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27:52

The Connection Between Crazy Supplements, Crazy...

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2022/05/18

The episode title says it all. Brad and Steve investigate the connection between the wild west of supplements and the wild west of ideas and politicians. They propose some big-swing theories that make a whole lot of sense, and they also provide a very concrete list of what supplements tend to work for what type of people in what situations.You can find the episode on:iTunes and Apple PodcastsSpotifyAndroidStitcherNotes and Resources:Check out our exclusive community bonuses on Patreon.Get a copy

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58:53

Listener Mailbag: Books, Sleep, Practicing What You...

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2022/05/11

You asked. We answered. This week's episode is a listener AMA, including:1. What are some recent good books that you’ve read?2. I know you two are both concerned with social media, how do you manage your own use currently?3. What do you think of Elon Musk buying Twitter?4. What projects are you working on?5. Sleep is something that you say is paramount. How do I balance this with being a new parent? It seems impossible to get any sleep?6. Is there any role for tools like whoop or fit bits?7. How do

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30:33

What the NFL Draft can Teach Us About Talent...

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2022/05/04

The NFL draft just went down last week. For football fans it is a very exciting time. For everyone else, it is a fascinating look at just how hard identifying talent can be. In this episode, Brad and Steve use the NFL draft as a starting point for a broader discussion on what we choose to measure in work and life and why.You can find the episode on:iTunes and Apple PodcastsSpotifyAndroidStitcherNotes and Resources:Check out our exclusive community bonuses on Patreon.Get a copy of The Practice of

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59:26

The Current State of Social Media and Attention...

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2022/04/27

In light of the news that Elon Musk might actually buy twitter, Brad and Steve explore how they use social media in their own lives and they offer some new and interesting ideas about owning your energy and attention in an increasingly frenetic and commercialized world.You can find the episode on:iTunes and Apple PodcastsSpotifyAndroidStitcherNotes and Resources:Here is the Jonathan Haidt article and Derek Thompson article mentioned in the show. And the podcast conversation between the two of them

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53:33

Habits Aren’t the Only Path to Health Behavior Change

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2022/04/20

This week we are joined by Michelle Segar, who is a researcher at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, studying sustainable behavior change. The discussion revolves around when and why habits fail, and how you can still make the right choice in those moments. It is a great and actionable conversation on a framework for progress that is different than and complementary to the power of habits.You can find the episode on:iTunes and Apple PodcastsSpotifyAndroidStitcher***Check out Michelle's new book

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47:09

Daily Habits for Health and Performance

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2022/04/13

Brad and Steve share a framework for “minimum effective dosing” of habits for health and performance. They provide a menu of evidence-based health and performance habits with the biggest bang for the buck, and then discuss how to harmoniously integrate these habits with everything else you have going on.You can find the episode on:iTunes and Apple PodcastsSpotifyAndroidStitcher***Check out our exclusive community bonuses on Patreon.Get a copy of The Practice of Groundedness!Please write a review on

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45:48

Everyone Is Tired All The Time. Here’s What You Can...

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2022/04/06

Many people are experiencing a chronic low-grade fatigue. It can manifest as multiple snooze-button taps, mid-day crashes, struggling to find motivation for things that once made you tick, or some combination of all these things. This episode explores the two big reasons underlying this sort of low-grade chronic fatigue and what you can do about it in order to regain and reclaim your energy.You can find the episode on:iTunes and Apple PodcastsSpotifyAndroidStitcher***Check out our exclusive

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34:04

Managing Uncertainty

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2022/03/30

How do we handle uncertainty in life? In this episode, Brad and Steve take on what to do when your world seems a bit out of whack. They dive into how to make better decisions , whether you should rely on intuition or rational thought processes, how to take care of your body during crazy times, and why there is no such thing as a bad decision. If your life feels a bit chaotic, this podcast is for you.You can find the episode on:iTunes and Apple PodcastsSpotifyAndroidStitcher***Get The Practice of

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1:17:01

From Opioid Addiction to Enlightenment

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2022/03/23

This is a conversation for the ages. Brad and Steve are joined by a special guest, Eric Zimmer, a former heroine addict now successful coach, entrepreneur, and podcast host. You'll immediately sense that Eric is a kindred spirit to everything the Growth Equation Podcast stands for. The trio go deep on what addiction thinks and feels like, how Eric worked his way into recovery, and the key lessons therein for all of us—regardless of your current state and station in life. It was also fascinating to

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36:12

Longevity, Diet, and Changing Your Relationship with...

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2022/03/16

In this episode, Brad and Steve get personal and discuss what is top of mind for them when it comes to their own health and longevity, including why Brad has decided to lose some weight (and how he's going about it), why Steve is changing his relationship with sport performance, and how so many controversial and polarizing topics (such as weight loss) need not be. You'll be sure to enjoy this intimate and thoughtful discussion on tough topics with themes and lessons that are applicable to

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1:02:23

Re-listen: Life with Shalane Flanagan, Marathon...

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2022/03/09

This week on The Growth Equation Podcast, Brad and Steve check in with NYC Marathon Champion, Olympian, coach, and friend Shalane Flanagan. The trio first discuss the challenges that come with transitions. Shalane candidly describes the hard and dark days she faced when transitioning away from being an athlete and how she struggled to see her purpose and meaning. Brad, Steve and Shalane then turn to how to cope with impostor syndrome. Shalane offers tricks such as finding your specific role and

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