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Typology

Ian Morgan Cron

Who are we? Why do we act, think and feel the way we do? How can we become our best, most authentic selves? Welcome to Typology, a podcast that explores the mystery of the human personality and how we can use the Enneagram typing system as a tool to become our best, most authentic selves. Hosted by author, speaker and counselor, Ian Morgan Cron, Typology features interviews with thought leaders from every sphere of life, including renowned Enneagram authors and teachers, psychologists, theologians,

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50:49

Discovering the Authentic Self feat. Bill Haslam...

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2021/06/17

This week, Former Governor of Tennessee, Bill Haslam returns to the show. This time we talk about his new book, The Promise and the Peril of Faith in the Public Square, turning his attention inward to matters of the soul since his term ended, and what he’s learning about himself as an Enneagram 3. Bill Haslam is the former two-term mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee, and former two-term governor of Tennessee, reelected in 2014 with the largest victory margin of any gubernatorial election in Tennessee

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49:58

Breaking the Stigma Mental Health with Ryan Casey...

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2021/06/10

“Mental health is health. We all have it. We can ignore it. We can mistreat it. We can take care of it. No matter what though, we can't deny that it exists.” This was Ryan Casey Waller’s response when I asked about his new book, “Depression, Anxiety, and Other Things We Don’t Want to Talk About.” This opened the door to a great, shame-free discussion about mental health and overcoming the stigma that often goes along with it. Ryan Casey Waller is a psychotherapist, pastor, lawyer, and, according

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27:32

Special Mailbag Episode: Ian answers your Enneagram...

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2021/06/03

Today, I'm answering a few carryover questions from our monthly Typology Institute Membership Town Hall. Each month I host a live Town Hall for members where we go beyond Q&A because members get to ask their questions live and the answers end up facilitating great follow up conversations that we just can’t do on this show. It's truly a great time! So, I pulled a few questions to share with you this week to give you a peek. If you’d like to join the next Town Hall, just visit

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52:12

Why Emily Ley No Longer Keeps Score (Enneagram 2)...

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2021/05/27

This week’s amazing guest, Emily Ley, is the Founder of Simplified, a brand of planners and organizational tools for busy women. She's been featured in Forbes, Family Circle, Better Homes and Gardens, Glamour, and Good Housekeeping. She is also a national bestselling author of many books, including her latest, Growing Boldly: Dare to Build a Life You Love. As an Enneagram Two, she’s doing her work to make positive changes in her professional and personal life. We talk about her new journey in

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49:16

Let's Talk Enneagram Nines, feat. Beatrice Chestnut...

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2021/05/20

Enneagram Nines appear to be so uncomplicated, and yet they’re actually very complicated. Enneagram Nines share a tendency to be other-referencing or more tuned in to what’s going on in the outside than they are tuned into what’s going on inside. They have a tendency to want to create harmony in their environment, and avoid conflict. They have a unique sensitivity to tension and conflict that they want to prevent or avoid altogether. So, I asked Beatrice Chestnut to join me to go deep into the

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42:35

Amy Downs' Radical Transformation (S04-047)

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2021/05/13

How does a traumatic incident shape the narrative you tell about yourself? Our guest today, Amy Downs, shares her incredible transformation that occurred as a result of surviving the Oklahoma City bombing. In the years since the bombing, Amy became a mother, lost 200 pounds, competed in an Ironman Triathlon, obtained her MBA, and became CEO of the same credit union that was bombed. It’s one of the most dramatic stories we’ve ever had on this show. Don’t miss this rich conversation as we learn

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45:28

Recovering Your Authentic Self feat. Holly Hayes...

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2021/05/06

Today, Holly Hayes, award-winning author, founder and CEO of Sanctuary Project, and Enneagram 3 joins me to explore the Enneagram as it relates to healing and recovery, how understanding your stress and security points can help identify your type, and the work required to reconnect with your authentic self. It’s a powerful reminder that we all need a safe place to take off our masks and get back in touch with who we are meant to be.

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01:00:04

Let's Talk Enneagram 1 w/Beatrice Chestnut [S04-045]

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2021/04/29

Enneagram Ones value principles and integrity and are driven by the need to be good. They are conscientious and ethical and self-controlled. But as with all types, when you dig into subtypes and instincts you’ll see three different versions of the Improvers personality that look and behave differently. Today, Beatrice Chestnut and I dive into: The importance of being familiar with your passion and how to recognize when it’s taken the wheel What each subtype looks like and why knowing yours is

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49:53

A Framework for Wholeness w/Seth Abram (Enneagram 9)...

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2021/04/22

I know many of you are looking forward to today’s show and I’m thrilled to share this rich conversation with Enneagram Nine, Seth Abram. Seth is a long-time friend, pastor, singer, songwriter, creator and founder of Integrated Enneagram, and co-host of the popular Enneagram podcast, Fathoms. Seth not only shares his wealth of knowledge about the work that is needed to become the fullest expression of our true selves but also provides insight into learning to recognize and embrace the role that

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41:52

David Nurse on Optimizing Your Potential with the...

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2021/04/15

Today’s guest, NBA Life Optimization Coach and former professional basketball player, David Nurse joins me to talk about the importance of self-awareness and the role it plays in leading others and optimizing your potential. David also shares how making small pivots to look at things from a slightly different perspective can open up your entire perspective and lead to life-giving changes. In this episode you’ll learn: Where types go in health and in stress The importance of a positive mindset How

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41:33

Let's Talk Enneagram 6 with Beatrice Chestnut [S04-042]

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2021/04/08

In general, Enneagram Sixes focus on scanning for threats and risks, being prepared in case the worst happens, and predicting and anticipating what might happen next so they can be ready to meet whatever challenge occurs. But, when you get into their subtypes...they can look and behave pretty differently. I dive into this in-depth today with Enneagram guru, Beatrice Chestnut. In this episode you’ll learn: What a passion is and why it’s so important to know yours What each subtype looks like and

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01:11:36

The Enneagram in Business [S04-041]

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2021/04/01

What are the benefits of using the Enneagram in the corporate space? The Enneagram helps grow self-awareness and self-knowledge among team members and executives in order to create a richer, more productive, more profitable environment that is also filled with joy, compassion and empathy. When applied properly, it really gets under the waterline of consciousness and illuminates why you do what you do and can help you understand how you show up in the workplace. In this special episode, business

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54:10

The Holderness Family Rules of Engagement and the...

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2021/03/25

Everybody fights, so why not get better at it? But how? One of the great things about the Enneagram is it’s a wonderful tool for improving communication between friends, family, spouses, and even coworkers. It fosters the self-awareness needed to be able to disagree better, love more, and maintain healthy relationships along the way. Best-known for their hit parodies on social media, husband-wife duo Kim and Penn Holderness share their tips for communicating, talk about the rules of engagement

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45:02

Jonathan Pitts' Journey Through Grief [S04-039]

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2021/03/18

Each of us digests or metabolizes grief in separate ways. It's important to understand how differently people grieve and allow others the space to grieve in the way that is appropriate to their architecture. Author, speaker, and executive pastor at Church of the City, Jonathan Pitts shares his journey through grieving the unexpected loss of his wife, learning to carve out space for joy, and finding beauty in the small things.

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53:58

Journey Into the Heart of the Enneagram Two with...

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2021/03/11

Relationships are extremely important to Enneagram Twos. They are the most interpersonal number on the Enneagram. They are other referencing -- focusing their attention outside of themselves. But when you mix the passion of the Two (pride) with their subtypes, Enneagram Twos not only present in very different ways but their transformational path also varies. Psychotherapist, coach, business consultant and Enneagram guru Beatrice Chestnut walks us through the heart of the Befriender and

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01:02:23

MercyMe's Bart Millard Explores the Inner Workings of...

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2021/03/04

The journey of self-understanding isn’t easy. Each of us are deep, mysterious, and complex beings who don’t fit into one specific box. Those complexities can sometimes make the process of uncovering your true self difficult. Today’s guest thought he was an Enneagram Seven for a long time but when he realized he was actually a dominant Six with a heavy Seven wing things changed. Front man of the award-winning Chrisitan group, MercyMe, Bart Millard joins me for a great conversation about the

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36:42

Hip-Hop Artist Lecrae's Restoration through...

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2021/02/25

We’ve got another great interview today. An entrepreneur, actor, musician, singer-songwriter, and music executive...hip-hop artist Lecrae joins me in a personal conversation about shame and grief. We get really honest about his life, where he came from, what influenced his Threeness, a real identity crisis that he hit at the height of his fame, and what role therapy has played in his healing and restoration.

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51:41

How Hidden Beliefs Impacted Toni and Carey Nieuwhof's...

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2021/02/18

What mud do you bring into your relationships? Though we’re often unaware of them until we can no longer ignore them, each of us carries hidden beliefs adopted in childhood into every relationship. And until we bring that mud, those self-limiting beliefs, to the surface they’re going to work against us as adults. This week, Toni and Carey Nieuwhof, join me to talk about the unconscious messages that impacted their relationship, identify the seven core issues that tend to take out marriages, and

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57:31

Audrey Assad Embodies the Intuitive Wisdom of an...

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2021/02/11

Enneagram Nines have an innate ability to foster peace with those around them. With their intuitive wisdom and great skill in listening to differences and understanding multiple perspectives, Nines seem to have a leg up on the rest of us when it comes to spirituality. Artist and multiple Dove award nominee, Audrey Assad beautifully gives us an honest look into the importance of spiritual community, embracing shadow work, and manifesting a non-anxious presence. Listen through to the end as Audrey

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41:41

Jordan Lee Dooley Owns Her Complex Emotions...

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2021/02/04

How do you do the things within your control without falling under the illusion that you are in control? Control is a big theme in all of our lives...it just shows up in different ways. No matter your type, we all try to control others with the suite of behaviors that go with our type. In fact, we train people to respond to us and interact with us in a certain way based on our type. So, how does an Enneagram 3 respond when faced with something they can’t do -- something that’s out of their

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