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Latter Day Struggles

Valerie Hamaker

The Latter Day Struggles Podcast addresses beliefs and issues within the LDS faith that are challenging to talk about but vital to discuss for those trying to navigate their relationship in or around the church. Valerie and her guests invite psychological maturity, theological health, and institutional integrity.

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Episode 46: Let’s Talk: “The Prophet will Never Lead...

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/09/16

Join Nathan and Valerie as they tackle another listener question. In this episode they address that haunting and refusing-to-die statement about how the prophet will never lead the church astray. Many of us in our orthodox days took this as a given and simply applied the blinders when something didn't feel congruent with this. Now its time to take a look at where that statement came from, some context about why it was said, and some thoughts regarding "prophethood" as being more

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Episode 45: Please Stay in Your Lane, Bishop

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/09/12

In this episode Valerie and guest co-host and fellow relationship therapist Brannon Patrick talk about the goodness and badness that happens at the hands of well-meaning but not-professionally trained bishops in a system where they are often expected [and endeavor] to run a three ring circus in their office consisting of marriage counseling, trauma recovery, addiction counseling, grief work, and complex mental health issues. And mind you these bishops are often your average accountants, mechanics,

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00:32:11

Episode 44: We're Skeptical about Having our Children...

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/09/09

In this episode Valerie and Nathan tackle an excellent and challenging question from one of you listeners regarding how to handle their child's upcoming 8th birthday and eligibility to be baptized into the LDS church. Many parents feel positively confused...wanting to integrate the "good stuff" of this faith tradition into their homes and family life while also wanting to be cautious about how, what, and when to teach their children in ways that reflect their own newly developing (and

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00:45:37

Episode 43: A Case of Subservience over Conscience

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/09/05

In this episode Valerie walks you through a historic tragedy to demonstrate what happens when a community is trained to obey authority over honoring common sense, conscience, and sound judgment. Valerie takes you back to the 1970s and recounts LDS church headquarter's handling of the national Equal Rights Amendment [ERA] and how large numbers of church members gladly relinquished their own wisdom and judgement in the service of loyalty to the institution. After tracing these fascinating

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00:27:00

Episode 42: Lulled by the Status Quo

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/09/02

In this episode Nathan and Valerie break down some research called the "Systems Justification Theory" that shines a light on why most people choose the status quo over the hard work of challenging the systems we know need reformation. The theory highlights four key reasons why we cling to status quo: We feel reassured by the familiarity of our own institutional mess and will suffer in silence before deciding to manage the discomfort of pushing back In the face of outside threat, we

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00:48:13

Episode 41: Diagnosing Spiritual Abuse Part III

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/08/30

In this last episode of this 3 part series, Nathan and Valerie break down 3 more indicators of a system (church or family) that is struggling on some level with spiritual abuse. The scholarship used in this episode comes from non-Latter-Day Saint researchers looking at religious systems in general and pointing out specific features of the churches that tend to perpetuate the most unrighteous dominion. The 3 points that they cover in this episode are as follows: 1. A culture of paranoia: Where

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00:30:09

Episode 40: Diagnosing Spiritual Abuse Part II

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/08/26

In this 3 part series, Nathan and Valerie break down 3 more indicators of a system (church or family) that is struggling on some level with spiritual abuse. The scholarship used in this episode comes from non-Latter-Day Saint researchers looking at religious systems in general and pointing out specific features of the churches that tend to perpetuate the most unrighteous dominion. The 3 points that they cover in this episode are as follows: Tendency for the institution to hover over personal

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00:36:19

Episode 39: Diagnosing Spiritual Abuse Part I

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/08/22

In this 3 part series, Nathan and Valerie break down 9 consistent markers of spiritually abusive systems [family or churches]. The scholarship used in this episode comes from non-Latter-Day- Saint researchers looking at religious systems in general and pointing out the specific features of the churches that tend to perpetuate the most unrighteous dominion. The 3 points that they cover in this episode are as follows: Heavy emphasis on charismatic leader who becomes the ultimate spokesperson on all

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00:36:52

Episode 38: Standing up Against Chicken Patriarchy

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/08/19

In this episode Valerie honors feminist writer Kynthia Taylor and unpacks an excerpt from her essay called "The Trouble with Chicken Patriarchy". She follows up with thoughts on how as a therapist she sees the damage done to both men and women in the prescribed and deeply embedded gender roles that the church inherited in its 19th century inception and has in many ways expanded upon as the world has evolved in the opposite direction. Val breaks down how the roles of provider, protector,

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00:52:01

Episode 37: The Current Culture of Mandated...

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/08/16

Join Valerie and Nathan as they break down a variety of missionary-service related topics, including the following: What's with the hyper focus on missionary service of late? misdiagnosis of the problem Unrighteous dominion Thoughts on mission reform...offering those who serve more personal ownership of their mission experience as a place to grow psychologically and spiritually. Thoughts on reform...realizing that the mission field is a major training ground for institutional and

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00:24:45

Episode 36: Thoughts Following Recent AP Article on...

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/08/11

In this episode, Valerie free-associates about her weekend spent reading, studying and thinking about the recent AP article regarding allegations that the LDS church is under-reporting sex abuse shared with ecclesiastical leader--protecting the predators at the expense of the victims. While this is a complex issue and Valerie does not pretend to know many answers, as a trauma therapist and a mandated reporter herself, she poses many questions that she would love for "the church" to

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Episode 35: The Shadow of Joseph's Polygamy and its...

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/08/07

Did you miss the AMAZING Sunstone Symposium 2022? No worries! In this episode you'll catch at least one lecture! Join Valerie as she shares her session formally called "The Jungian Shadow and Mormon History" where she will cover: 1. The meaning of the Jungian Shadow How we all try to DENY our personal shadows in creative ways that estrange us from owning and integrating our shadow parts A case study in shadow integration: King David self confronts with the help of the prophet

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00:32:07

Episode 34: Sunstone Symposium: Love, Openness,...

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/08/02

Imagine attending an LDS meeting where people from the extremes of belief and practice come together and enjoy one another's company, share their stories, experiences, thoughts, opinions, and struggles, and are met with openness, curiosity, compassion, and non-judgment? This was our experience at our very first Sunstone Symposium--an annual gathering we just attended with a little bit of anxiety and a lot of curiosity. In this episode Nathan and Val share more about specific moments that they

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01:09:39

Episode 33: Stages of Faith Development, Why We are...

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/07/28

Can't make it to the Sunstone Symposium 2022? Join Valerie on this episode as she walks you through one of her Sunstone Presentations breaking down the following: Scott Peck's Stages of Faith Development Characteristics of institutions in lower stages of faith development Valerie's theories on why we as an institution are stuck Actual comments from podcast listeners about their faith deconstruction and how this is often faith progression (not regression) Why those in the

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00:18:36

Episode 32: How One Gay Man “Stays”

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/07/26

Join Val as she breaks down one gay man's reasons for staying in the LDS church. This episode highlights the reality that every person must search for and choose for themselves their own authentic reason for staying (or not staying) in the church and that this decision is deeply and profoundly personal. Book Referenced in this episode: Why I Stay 2: The Challenges of Discipleship for Contemporary Latter-day Saints, Edited by Robert Rees —————————————————————————————————————— SUBSCRIBE:

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00:27:17

Episode 31: I Am an ADULT of God [New Version of the...

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/07/22

Join Valerie in her analysis of Zina Petersen's progressively new lyrics to the classic primary hymn "I Am a Child of God", written to emphasize the importance of moving beyond childish simplicity, black and white thinking, right and wrong belief structures, and a covert belief in the prosperity gospel. In this episode Valerie walks through the power and pain of becoming a true "Adult of God" and how faith deconstruction is an invaluable part of your personal maturation and

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00:34:09

Episode 30: Why Do We Speak Up? And Why Every Voice...

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/07/19

Join Val and Nathan as they break down the research findings regarding why people finally overcome their tribal desire to “fit in” and and “not make waves” and move into a place of courage, self validation, and even heroism. One's process of growing brave enough to speak truth to power and against the majority narrative involves heightening ones attention and realizing there is a problem realizing the urgency of the problem feeling a sense of personal responsibility believing that one

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00:12:15

Episode 29: Moving from Judgement to Non-judgement

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/07/15

Join Valerie as she shares some words of wisdom straight from one of her spiritual heroes, father Richard Rohr. In this episode she shares highlights from one of the most influential thought-provoking and growth-inducing books she has ever read: Falling Upward. Discover for yourself whether you are in the "first half of life" or the "second half of life" and how we each move towards true adulthood. Books referenced in this episode: Falling Upward: A Spirituality for the Two

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00:33:47

Episode 28: Why the "A la Carte" Approach to Faith...

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/07/12

In this episode, Valerie pushes back on the common belief in the LDS church that the "a la carte" approach to gospel belief is evidence of lack of faith, trust, and commitment to one's spiritual growth. She builds a case for the "a la carte" approach to building one's beliefs as more risky in the short term (yes, our own agency means we might botch things from time to time) but also as more rewarding for those who take their discipleship seriously and learn to truly

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00:18:57

Episode 27: The "If/Then" Temptation: Resisting the...

Latter Day Struggles ·

2022/07/08

In this episode, Val and Nathan share how in the church we sometimes use the transitive property of logic to draw sweeping conclusions to issues that merit individual study and personal discernment. No matter what they told you to teach in the MTC, if one thing is true (or false), then everything else is not necessarily true (or false). —————————————————————————————————————— SUBSCRIBE: All Friday episodes of Latter Day Struggles can be accessed through ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠a paid subscription

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